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decimation: the empty bottles in this case being the legacy of unix, in its million forms
asciilifeform: or one minute to think whether what they say makes any sense, that Henry Ford, the American entrepreneur whose worldview wouldn't probably stand much scrutiny from the modern perspective, gained his place in the canon of progressive feelgood policies for paying his workers the back then unheard-of high daily salary of $5, which made them wealthy enough to buy Ford automobiles, which in turn made the Ford company profitable.' (
asciilifeform: 'We laugh at that fable about the village of simpletons who, when their bed blankets became too short for their growing kids, extended these blankets by cutting off a piece from one end and sewing it to the other. Or the more modern tale of a drunkard who could afford to drink every day because he always took his empty bottles back for a deposit. And yet many otherwise intelligent people believe, apparently not stopping even f
asciilifeform: it is the logical conclusion of their thought process.
asciilifeform: these folks will eventually build arse-mouth systems and try to eat their own shit. ☟︎
asciilifeform: i.e., that if we somehow do 'cloud' correctly, no one actually has to think about cpu and disk, these can live in some 'meta' heavens
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu had something written re: imbeciles thinking of 'meta' elevation as a kind of philosopher's stone
asciilifeform: where were they in 1970 and who was the poorer for it ?
decimation: somehow I guess there is a market for selling vms to folks
asciilifeform: reading for the first time about 'joyent', i couldn't help but wonder - what are these 'technologies' actually for? if they were erased from the good earth overnight, would i notice ?
decimation: 'actual problems' being things that are critical to eat, not be blown up, etc?
asciilifeform: because mimicry is cheaper in all cases than the real thing.
asciilifeform: inevitably the mimics take over
asciilifeform: once the machines were no longer put to work solving actual problems, and just about the whole planet switched to 'solving' nonproblems,
asciilifeform: read, for perhaps the first time, why:
asciilifeform: thing is, the degradation of computer industry was inevitable.
decimation: asciilifeform perhaps you could follow the fate of solaris as a re-invented platform for oracledb
asciilifeform can't shake the feeling, reading this crud, that it was all an elaborate joke, and the punchline is to be read out soon
decimation: and apparently they view the legacy of solaris as a great foundation to host ... server-side javascript
assbot: What’s up with Joyent? — Tech News and Analysis ... ( http://bit.ly/1A2EFpO )
decimation: asciilifeform: https://gigaom.com/2013/11/26/whats-up-with-joyent/ << apparently the are only marginally a business
asciilifeform: honouring the 'lifetime warranty' for all the chumps put together - would this even add up to the cost of one lawyer-week ?
undata: plenty of lawyer money at that point
asciilifeform: no surprise that the scam was a scam; surprising is the fact that it wound down precisely when it did
undata: and the gigs aren't even real gigs
decimation: asciilifeform: doesn't it feel like a cargo cult around an os that was handed down by betters?
undata: asciilifeform: statements are implicitly understood to be mostly bullshit in modern English
decimation: hehe yep. the names have been entered in the journal
asciilifeform: not because they were broke, but because... they could ?
asciilifeform: 'In January, 2012, Joyent secured a new round of funding totalling $85 million from Weather Investment II, Accelero Capital, and Telefónica Digital. In October 2014, Joyent raised an additional $15 million in Series D funding from existing investors.' << and immediately after, 'fuck you' to the 'crowdfunders.'
gernika: new IRC client, forgot to page down
gernika: Sorry about that
gernika: The post on bitcoin in Argentina reminds me of Bitcoin in berlin. There was supposed to be some thriving bitcoin scene in Kreuzberg. In fact when I went to visit there was a single crappy cafe with a cheap Bitcoin sign hanging in the window.
undata: it turns out all these citizen journalists are full of shit
gernika: The post on bitcoin in Argentina reminds me of Bitcoin in berlin. There was supposed to be some thriving bitcoin scene in Kreuzberg. In fact when I went to visit there was a single crappy cafe with a cheap Bitcoin sign hanging in the window.
asciilifeform: 'On August 16, 2012, individuals who had provided start-up and development funding to Joyent (and its predecessor, TextDrive) in exchange for lifetime shared hosting accounts with Joyent were informed, via email, that their lifetime hosting accounts would be deleted on October 31, 2012' << lol! (pediwikia)
decimation: although like BSD, "solaris" is more of a spiritual matter now than a matter of a particular codebase
asciilifeform: what did it have to do with these abortions
decimation: SmartOS is a SVR4 open-source hypervisor, based on the UNIX operating system which combines OpenSolaris technology with Linux's KVM virtualization.
decimation: they are trying to be a 'cloud company' with a unique os - SmartOS
decimation: most of the sunos people left oracle's lawnmower and went there
decimation: asciilifeform: they are the 'spiritual heirs' of solaris
asciilifeform finds it interesting that he has never before heard of joyent corp., nor knowingly used anything in their lineup
mthreat: mircea_popescu: if starbucks coffee is any measure of inflation, it's been 60% from 1 year ago. My coffee went from 30 pesos to 48 since 1 year ago.
undata: sudden urge to go drive for uber just for the hell of it
assbot: Defiant Uber rideshare launches in Portland, with City Hall promising to 'throw the book' at drivers | OregonLive.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1s3Lao0 )
mircea_popescu: so defeated, so used to defeat...
mircea_popescu: it's funny how they're not even tryong here.
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decimation: apparently 'because' usg released data that indicated that some wages kinda went up, and some people might have been hired
decimation: meanwhile back in unreality world the dollar just beat all the other fiat at the market today
decimation: as long as he and his friends have a strong lock on the bezzlars funneled into sv, he is more than willing to throw his 'own tribe' under the bus in order to appear magnanimous
mircea_popescu: there's no point in holding on to plain dollars if on top of inflation of fact you'll also get inflaiton of meaning.
undata: surely they'll pass that in a few years
undata: mircea_popescu: ungendered << made me think of some sort of feminist reparations tax
undata: you didn't build that money meaning.
mircea_popescu: i want to trade this millionaire benjies for busker benjies please.
mircea_popescu: by now money is compared in the meta-terms of its "meaning" ?
mircea_popescu: this magical math you got going there.
mircea_popescu: "In a text message, Novick continued that he believes $200 a month means less to people earning $500,000 a year than $12 per month for $50,000 earners."
cazalla: undata, only way to be sure eh?
undata: who can cry for which special interest the most convincingly
undata: were isis dropped in the middle of portland they'd own it in a day
mircea_popescu: at least rape and pillage if oyu're going that way.
mircea_popescu: decimation but it's the same thing to a dot. "fuck the law, we do what we please". well...
assbot: Portland street tax: PERS exemption (Letters to the Editor) | OregonLive.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1s3HHG5 )
undata: oh and check out the opposition! http://www.oregonlive.com/opinion/index.ssf/2014/11/portland_street_tax_pers_givea.html
undata: might as well nuke the whole state from orbit when better masters own it
decimation: at least isis is up front about their religion, instead of being all meta about it
undata: they're trying to pass this new "street tax" in Portland
mircea_popescu: how can you NOT like the real isis ? the fake isis (usus ?) is just as stupid, only much derpier.
undata: counts as a fetish too in my book.
mircea_popescu: it is a matter of doing the right thing. it's about people, not code.
mircea_popescu: "@KristianOellegaard this isn't an issue of breaking or following the rules, it's an issue of doing the right thing and common sense. This situation is about people, not code."
mircea_popescu: ;;rate bryan cantrill to hang.
mircea_popescu: this is true.
decimation: well, he put his name on top. master an man, etc
mircea_popescu: decimation nah, hewas like the cto
assbot: Management Team - Company - Joyent ... ( http://bit.ly/1s3G3Ea )
mircea_popescu: he's some kid. nothing to nobody.
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mircea_popescu: cazalla meh, allow me to quote.
mircea_popescu: im gonna get the fucking records
cazalla: mircea_popescu, imagine if someone really was sent to do an interview lol
mircea_popescu: who the shit writes this idiocy. i want a name.
decimation: asciilifeform: whoever the 'jews' are today, they better consider their parachutes now
asciilifeform: '...empathy is a core engineering value—and that an engineer that has so little empathy as to not understand why the use of gendered pronouns is a concern almost certainly makes poor technical decisions as well.' << aryan physics is best physics!
decimation: for the record
decimation: Accelero Capital, and Telefónica Digital.[47] In October 2014, Joyent raised an additional $15 million in Series D funding from existing investors. [48]"
decimation: "Joyent raised venture capital for the first time in November 2009[42] from Intel and Dell.[43] Joyent's early institutional investors include El Dorado Ventures, Epic Ventures, Peter Thiel (Seed Round),[44] Intel Capital (Series A, B Rounds),[45] Greycroft Partners (Series A, B Rounds),[46] Liberty Global (Series B Round). In January, 2012, Joyent secured a new round of funding totalling $85 million from Weather Investment II,
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they're just minimaxing.
decimation: during the french revolution, plenty of scum pseudo-scientists ganged together to hang actual people
asciilifeform: intelligent, conscious tumours, ever in search of ways to embed deeper into healthy tissue (what little remains)
jborkl: Mp, did you ever join the bitcoin foundation?
mircea_popescu: (more likely, so when they get hanged by their own guts, the remainder, ever less numerous crowd of them can falsely claim that we're attaching "science"
mircea_popescu: AS IF the von flondor process won't see through that
decimation: anyway, it's kinda like the retard version of the openbsd fork
asciilifeform: nobody looks at WHAT THEY WERE << nobody but a hatecriminal aha.
mircea_popescu: which is a major problem, because the us nomenklatura is fighting real hard to get "scientific" credetnials.
decimation: right, but the guy wasn't an employee of joyent