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danielpbarron: it's described as "the bride,
the Lamb’s wife" and "the great city,
the holy Jerusalem"
undata: that's
the new earth or whatever
undata: danielpbarron: strictly speaking,
that's not heaven
undata requests
the changelog for
the human mind
undata: I don't know how scientific
the Jungian stuff is
assbot: Logged on 19-03-2014 19:04:08; asciilifeform: and, finally, his moment arrived! von Kármán surrendered his orange
ticket,
took a deep breath, and said, "God, explain
turbulence."
Theodore von Kármán spent
the rest of eternity burning in Hell.'
undata wonders whether
there aren't
things resembling heaven, hell and
the other very basic concepts rolling around in his subconscious
decimation: the Bible is certainly unclear on
the specifics. I imagine it is a place where one can ask God wtf he was
thinking
undata: with sex-robots and
teleportation
mircea_popescu: i dunno,
the
traditional heaven (dude, it's like a really large field, we can camp and hike! and graze!)
undata: probably crudely useful
to imagine "best" and "worst" possible circumstances when you don't have many concepts
to rub
together
mircea_popescu: you can dress 'em whichever way you want, but in
the end a monkey merely
trained
to recognise
the letters is not a scholar, and just so
these "modern" men and women are in fact quite primitive.
decimation: right, but in
this case
the 'feeble minded' are also
the supposed captains of
technology/science
mircea_popescu: decimation
the magical mental needs of
the feeble minded don't go away simply because
they are surrounded by / live in a society based on more advanced
thoughts.
undata: seems like
the AI doom scenario is just
the inverted singularity
undata: decimation:
the "singularity" is precisely
technobabble heaven
decimation: so I find
these AI doomsayers highly amusing. most of
them would laugh at a Christian's claim of revelation (knowledge which comes neither
through induction nor deduction) but are more
than happy
to jump on board
the eliezer yudkowsky
tard
train because "I know it is
true"
ben_vulpes: sounds like portland, mircea_popescu. irrelevant on
the global scale but 'omg have you
tried
these donuts my brother makes?!'
mircea_popescu: this is about 3x
the mess
they made over world cup stuff.
mircea_popescu: sooo buenos aires has decided
to set itself on fire because some local
team won
the local football cup.
decimation: he had a whole
thread about
the london whale and associated retardation
decimation: I
think he is some kind of
trader
that works for a major firm
assbot: In which David Cote has decided you don’t care about how you’re living, and his opinion on
that matters for some reason | RWCG ... (
http://bit.ly/1x49pcs )
decimation: yeah
that's an interesting way
to put it. asians would generally place
the 'good of
the company ' in front of
their dignity
mircea_popescu: famously, ceausescu once visited kim in korea, came back with a cockfull of life and brand new ideas of how
to perfect socialism.
mircea_popescu: i knew
the moment
the japanese started with
that weird, and
the us libtard class started paying attention, i knew
this was coming.
decimation: yeah I like
this guy's blog, he edits
the mainstream media
decimation: apparently obamacare 'allows' employers
to give you a 'discount' off your 'insurance' premiums if you enroll in
their hitlerjunge programes
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: usg annihilated science
to an extent no one ever, i suspect,
thought of as possible. << lol not so. again
the chinese lead.
they burned
the books 2x.
assbot: In which David Cote has decided you don’t care about how you’re living, and his opinion on
that matters for some reason | RWCG ... (
http://bit.ly/1x493T8 )
mircea_popescu: why
the fuck would i write on a platform
that doesn't run grep o.O
mircea_popescu: but otherwise, had
this been centrally planned, it'd have worked as well as
that whore cixi's
trains.
mircea_popescu: the only great fortune of europe in
the industrial age was
that
they copied
the dutch approach (as
the
tulip mania was coming
to a close, dutch courts simply refused
to intervene in any capacity and "Fuck you!")
decimation: it is hard
to convince
the giant
that allowing space for
the midgets would be good for him
mircea_popescu: just like
the ottomans ended up "the sick man of europe"
through a particular choice of centralisation
mircea_popescu: consider
that china had helicopter designs cca 500ad, it had known of gunpowder for 3k years by
the
time we finally heard of it and
they were writing alchemy
treatises before homer was even walking
the earth.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: if rifles could only be produced in 12 places on
the planet, most fighting would still be conducted with spears and axes. <<<
there's a lot of depth
to
this observation. for instance :
undata: mircea_popescu: naw I was raised by a proper cold-warrior;
they exist
undata is used
to people
thinking he's
too angry, is probably even-keeled by rational standards
undata: expressing anger having become socially unacceptable is one of
the signs
that
the US is dead
undata: definitely, so
they can file suit when
the male programmers curse and
throw
things, which is only natural when you're up
to your eyes in shit
undata: at a previous job we even had a sand-filled punching bag for
that
undata: programming
tends
to piss me off; pacing is
the release valve
mircea_popescu: i honestly do not wish
to write either walking or laying down.
undata: both of which could be seen as parasitic destroyers of anything
that smells remotely innovative in
the US economy
undata: things like son-of-son of oculus rift or magic leap might provide walk-and-compute of some sort, but will be hopelessly
tied
to derptech
mircea_popescu: all
the bad
things
teh french revolution hated, like you know, lord X who owns property but "doesn't give anything back
to society"
decimation: usg has more-or-less 'sat' upon
the idle rich
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: would have
to give enough of a shit
to fund, but not enough
to attempt
to direct.
this will happen shortly after pigs fly. << incidentally,
this is why
the idle rich are so important irl.
undata: mircea_popescu: I prefer standing desks; pacing and
thinking go well
together
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform every single room in
this country has hardware, wrought iron
tv supporter. i've not seen a
tv yet standed on any surface.
mircea_popescu: i
think best walking. am not
trying
to get a walking computor
tho
decimation: what about mounting gizmo
that extends from wall or whatever?
mircea_popescu: undata
that's pretty much google yeah. and also everyone else
trying
to copy
them (fb etc)
decimation: asciilifeform: I
think you would need 'chorded handles' so you could lay your arms on
the bed
decimation: they gave me a 'free subscription'
to 'investment
training' - with seminars (not free!)
decimation: no one else writes about
the downside of compilers as a
technology (to my knowledge)
mircea_popescu: as in,
the downside of "the good stuff
that can be had for cheap" ?
decimation: if
there is anything
this channel emphasizes, it seems
to me
that it is
the downside of what appears
to be 'the good'
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> i wouldn't mind a car
that runs on farts, if it were possible at home. << can you imagine hpow
that'd go ? how it'd smell ? how uncomfortable
the gas pipe'd get ?
decimation: I can see
that. I imagine it would have ben something kinda like verilog with features
that help you design asynchronous circuitry
decimation: asciilifeform: what language would you use
to model 'dataflow' processing?
ben_vulpes: fluffypony: you're in with
the monetas crowd, right?
undata: I'm still interested
to hear an estimate on
the R&D cost of an 'actual' computer