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undata: thestringpuller: I'd
think it wise
to at least demo
the poor life for
them
thestringpuller: sure you don't sling crack
to get lunch money, but you hustle in other scenarios
thestringpuller: undata: but
this isn't
the only factor. unimpoverished children can still amount
to hardworking individuals, just with different contexts.
undata: thestringpuller: it's
the experience of starting with nothing and struggling ahead
that makes an adult
thestringpuller: They glorify antics from sitcoms such as "Workaholics" finding ways
to be lazy but still get by.
thestringpuller: Also American Derp is not hardworking, or
truly values hardwork.
The serf likely does (imo at least).
undata: this serfdom
thing doesn't sound any better
than what
the man behind
the curtain has produced in
the garden-variety american derp
thestringpuller: The ones
that brand you a fuck-up if you don't pass "the entrance exam" of which you only have on opportunity
to pass.
thestringpuller: American Schools are easier
to pass
through for children of stricter education systems.
thestringpuller: "you won't make it in china, you
too dumb, we send you
to american high school come back as adult, bye bye"
thestringpuller: well someone who is going
to exclaim nonsense about JS being useful
to "understand code" should be stuffed in
the bowels of some buildings as a serf
undata: sounds like a person headed for serfdom under
this scenario
thestringpuller: well at least you can bribe
the guards in a russian prison
undata: I'd accept
that given some decent mechanism for outliers
to escape
that circumstance.
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: should not have had access
to any
technology more complex
than pitchfork. << but isn't
this how ignorant mobs form? as much as I like a pitchfork mob....
undata: "Javascript is actually in demand now for good reason. Node.js is a powerful
tool for specific applications and you no longer need
to know 2 languages if you go
the full JS stack." << I call
this single-step reasoning. It's everywhere.
thestringpuller: "I wish Bitcoin was written in JS, I'd be able
to understand it a bit better."
undata: where is
the embarassment
undata: underabundance of shame
these days
thestringpuller: he goes on
to say: " If I had written bitcoin, it would have been in javascript."
thestringpuller: Ryan X. Charles: "I discovered bitcoin on May 13, 2011 and never recovered. After developing a reputation as
the bitcoin guy at
the physics department, I eventually quit my physics PhD program and went full-time bitcoin. I worked for
the best bitcoin company in
the world, BitPay"
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> usg has more-or-less 'sat' upon
the idle rich <<
the 'idle' (what does
this mean? presumably, not occupied with directing a megacorp?) rich still exist.
they spend on coke and orbital flights with hookers, not rebuilding of computing. <<
The conversion of cocaine from productivity aide
to party favor has probably been one of
the msot damaging
transitions of
this last hundred years
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undata: this mental conversation I have about "yes, pick up
the cup and have a sip" happens substantially later
than
the action
to do so is already in motion
undata: asciilifeform:
the idea is
that people can be shown
to have made a decision before
they are capable of reporting
that decision
to anyone
undata: asciilifeform: pretty sure
this is
the experiment I'm
thinking of 40hz.net/david_2011.pdf
cazalla: seems
that is for xbox credit whatever
the fuck
that is
cazalla: i'm not
that familiar with it, does
this let you buy credits or something
thestringpuller ?
cazalla: thestringpuller, sure, i was planning
to do so but i checked out my missus account and
there is no bitcoin option, maybe not for aus yet
undata: surely
there are canonical examples of
that happening with
the opposite sex
undata: asciilifeform: you've never found yourself doing
things you never consciously chose
to do?
undata: asciilifeform:
this sounds like
the
thing dennett has said about "pandemonium"
undata: it seems
the mind has plenty of processes running on autopilot which can be mindfully observed, but often aren't
undata: asciilifeform: I'm more referring
to
things like, say you notice in
the workplace
that you have been for
the last year in direct competition with another worker
undata: if
things bigger
than skulls are conscious, I wouldn't be qualified
to comment on
them
undata: decimation: I consider "god" a barely scrutable
term
decimation: undata: certainly if one accepts
that God is external, one would have
to consider what which comes from Him and
that which does not.
thestringpuller: hopefully I don't by xbox live or something in
the process :P
cazalla: thestringpuller,
thanks, no xbox or microsoft account here
thestringpuller: cazalla: lemme see. i'll
try
to order something after I finish
this
thing for work.
undata: that
there are drives, goals, whole projects somewhere lower-level
that I'm barely conscious of
undata: decimation: veering into woo-woo
territory, but in meditation I've often gotten
the sense
that
the sense of "myself" in my head is a very small chunk of what I am
cazalla: thestringpuller, so
they're
taking it direct?
decimation: asciilifeform: and fearing
the ai holocaust
undata: I had a retina macbook,
total rubbish
undata: asciilifeform:
that's probably my next one after
this wreck
decimation: often
themselves - self-appointment
to what is god and what isn't
decimation: undata: I
think
there is a 'yearning for meaning' inside of each human, and
that generally drives
them
to choose a god of some kind
undata: decimation: from a certain perspective, imagining
things
that do not exist and creating
them is delusion-fueled activity
cazalla: anyone with an xbox account able
to find out for me if microsoft is using bitpay or coinbase for
this accept bitcoin news?
undata: decimation: I've wondered whether our capacity for creativity is exactly what
tends
to rot
the brain
undata: it's hard
to draw
that line
undata: though
that might not be
too magical; I'm not asserting
that it *will* happen, merely deciding
to press on
towards it
undata: however, it might be adaptive
to have a
touch of it; would I keep working
towards escaping
the gravity well if I wasn't certain I can accomplish it?
decimation: I'm not sure it is humanly possibly, but I only have myself
to speak for
undata: takes vigilance
to do otherwise
undata: ah yeah,
then agreed doubly
decimation: My point is
that everyone has magical
thinking
undata: I agree
that
they're both
the same flavor of magical
thinking.
decimation: undata: but
this is exactly
the 'revelation' point I was making above
undata: " Whereof one cannot speak,
thereof one must be silent.
danielpbarron: physical
things exist in heaven;
that is not an attribute limited
to earthly
things
undata: anyhow
that makes it sound like some kind of heaven on earth scenario
undata: what does god have against
the sea?
undata: And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for
the first heaven and
the first earth were passed away; and
there was no more sea. And I John saw
the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
undata: hm, actually
the description is more munged
together
than
that
undata: danielpbarron: right, god's supposed
to drop
that new city on jerusalem