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nubbins`: way to argue the null case ;p
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: Do you have the same romantic attachment to 7.65 that I do. It is bond caliber
nubbins`: <+BingoBoingo> The fuckers, part of his pre-trial release conditions was a prohibition on alcohol, 21st amendment yo! <<< i have a friend prohibited from imbibing for 4 years as part of the punishment for a drug offense
nubbins`: <+mircea_popescu> they're just numbers, like any other numbers, exactly so. <<< o.0
nubbins`: <+mircea_popescu> but the principle remains. "small integers" are not in fact either small or integers but for our perspective. <<<< o.O
BingoBoingo: Carrying those tits can't come with zero cost
fluffypony: hanbot is going to be pissed!
BingoBoingo watches the latest episode of Ramsey's Hell's Kitchen because better than Robitussin
BingoBoingo: fluffypony: Like I am going to totally fire up the AIDS computer to follow every lead
fluffypony: BingoBoingo: because I'm in a bunch of videos under this nom de plume?
BingoBoingo: fluffypony: How can we know you aren't the blond wife? Other than if that was the OH SHIT HUGE SPIDER, case certain people would be much more attentive to your equine needs
fluffypony: rithm: when are you changing back to jcpham?
BingoBoingo: rithm: Why does the fluffy mare fear you?
fluffypony: had a bit of a false start on one of the projects, shitty resources, so that's just picked up again as of a few weeks ago
fluffypony: oh yes - I decided to fund it myself
punkman: fluffypony: what happened to that prospectus
mircea_popescu: now /me waits patiently for the home videos of fluffyfamily.
fluffypony: when I have something cool to show I will :)
BingoBoingo waits for the scorpions to shrink again, fuck you robitussin cold and flu
fluffypony: I've got stuff I'm building on the business side
mircea_popescu: anyway, /me waits patiently for fluffypony to be done with playing and start srs bzns.
BingoBoingo: fluffypony: It is alright. The coinfire account on twitter blocked both myself and cazalla that one time we made a blog even though... Eventually we may want to hire their meat.
mircea_popescu: well, neither did the various stabilisation funds irl lol.
fluffypony: the one with the "stabilization fund"
mircea_popescu: oh i recall the derp. i think i told him off back when i was on twitter.
fluffypony: he's the guy that keeps getting "interviewed" by Seaman
mircea_popescu: trying to recall who that is.
fluffypony: oh cute, Bryce Weenie blocked me on Twitter
fluffypony: either outrightly or through blind ignorance
mircea_popescu: perhaps. then again this may be a rather short term concern you see.
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: I agree, but what I mean is that a sidechain can't have a direct USD market, for instance, it will always have to go via Bitcoin
mircea_popescu: fluffypony all future coin, of any type, and more generally all future human industry of all types is indelibly linked to bitcoin ☟︎
fluffypony: but I do applaud the effort if it'll make shit like Jackpotcoin irrelevant
fluffypony: but that also means that the altcoin is indelibly linked to Bitcoin's value
adlai: and the "your" referred to all these projects, not just fluffypony
adlai: i don't mean it in that sense, i mean that their goal is to make innovations in other chains accessible to the bitcoin asset
mircea_popescu: guy pretty much said hedun expect to eat off it.
adlai: fluffypony: blockstream is a for-profit company in order to steal your lunch
mircea_popescu: so you are in the endsaying this is more of a hobby than serious.
fluffypony: and if it fails it doesn't matter, we're not trying to build a business, we're advancing technology
fluffypony: maybe it's best to think of Monero as something like Freicoin - an experiment in creating something usable and useful
fluffypony: the network effect of BTC works against that
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: that's like saying someone with a better business value proposition can just fork BTC
mircea_popescu: fluffypony i dun think his idea is directly applicable (stolen by btc), but nevertheless, someone with a better business value proposition can just fork your code.
fluffypony: to get back to the previous convo, though - it isn't an "investment", nor has it been pitched as such
fluffypony: pubkeys) thus breaking compatibility with every existing application, and then enforce the standard for some time before the utxoset is sufficiently large to allow for a measurable level of privacy (see MRL-0001 on lab.monero.cc as to why this is true)
fluffypony: adlai: the problem is that the "amazing tech" can't easily be copied by BTC - although I'd agree fully on that being applicable to altcoins based off of the Bitcoin codebase. the problem isn't so much the code, it's that the stealth addresses + ring signatures are such a radical departure that Bitcoin would (obviously) have to hardfork to an address format that is completely different to their current one (since it requires 2x 256-bit
BingoBoingo: Is the robitussin bottle really not supposed to be a single serving?
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 361.04, Best ask: 362.14, Bid-ask spread: 1.10000, Last trade: 361.04, 24 hour volume: 14786.74135077, 24 hour low: 339.8, 24 hour high: 364.43, 24 hour vwap: 0
scoopbot: New post on Qntra.net by thestringpuller: http://qntra.net/2014/12/microsoft-xbox-and-mobile-marketplace-now-accepts-bitcoin/
BingoBoingo: Isn't that what the civil war was over?
BingoBoingo: Ship it to the deep south.
BingoBoingo: humanure isn't a thing
mircea_popescu: humanure, where humint goes to die.
punkman: I mean humanure is fine, if you are in the wot
BingoBoingo: punkman: Fine baby the tomatoes, but what about the sweet corn
mircea_popescu: what do you think the earth is if not hardpacked, ancient sewage.
punkman: not sure I'd want my tomatos fed on human shit
punkman: saw this recently, about making fertilizer from NY sewage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QV9x79_WYbk
mircea_popescu: for the field.
punkman: mircea_popescu: punkman: yeah and maybe indian/chinese guy watered field with sewage << actually good for it. << sewage is good for tea?
punkman: mircea_popescu: punkman no notary still ? << good night's sleep and not busy today, shall make progress
mircea_popescu: feel the morse.
punkman: you could make a tactile morse generator
thestringpuller: that's another option have little magnets implanted in finger tips
mircea_popescu: real programmers just sense the bits.
undata: however anything like that becomes another point to siphon data off the thing if you derp using it
undata: there are many simple text-output LCDs
punkman: or a tiny laptop thingy
thestringpuller: punkman has the right idea!
punkman: thestringpuller wants a screen on the cardano
mircea_popescu: the storing isnot the problem. how'd you read it ?
thestringpuller: for situations arising "in the field"
thestringpuller: place to store output
thestringpuller: well i guess I'm thinking of combining cardano with 2nd device
BingoBoingo: I think you two are talking about different devices
thestringpuller: same with data on this device that stores output from decryption
thestringpuller: in the way key on cardano is nontrivial to remove
thestringpuller: exactly, so I was envisioning a device that can i/o securely from output of cardano
mircea_popescu: just that it won't be able to steal your keys
mircea_popescu: it'd decript somethinmg you got off a pastebin for you, but obviously it can't guarantee the computer you're on won't read your memo too
thestringpuller: so lets say the system in use is not a secure viewer, but a device is available (some mobile thingy of some sort), that is a secure viewer, but is unable to do heavy lifting. just reads from drive and displays it. so the use case I imagine is someone is sent important "please read now" encrypted memo to some dude who is boarding a flight. he uses one of the surely compromised internet cafe computers and his hand caradno to decr
mircea_popescu: how did the memo end up in there then.
thestringpuller: more in the sense*
thestringpuller: or in the sense it is non-trivial to remove data from the device
mircea_popescu: seems airgap means you're not touching some other system neh.
thestringpuller: i was thinking of the scenario of having to absolutely read an encrypted memo but only have a potentially compromised/malicious system available
thestringpuller: i know that's somewhat random...
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: could the airgap concept of the cardano be applied to storage?
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adlai: plenty of cogent and together people dedicate their time to charity, but it's not a terribly rewarding investment
adlai: if i were to specifically attack that, i'd start from the assumption that a cogent and together person necessarily occupies their time in an activity which lends itself to monetary investment
assbot: Logged on 11-12-2014 07:19:05; mircea_popescu: fluffypony understand what i'm saying here. you seem cogent and together, you're working on this whatever thing i can't readily evaluate. i'd consider putting a few coins into it ; i can even ignore the involvement of whatever known derp on the theory that on the long term sterile works itself out of metal anyway so who cares.
mircea_popescu: i dun think "invesing in altcoin" generally was being contemplated.
adlai: it's hard to organize an argument against nobody. kinda like planning an invasion without a map.
adlai: which one, the one against long-term investments in altcoins?
mircea_popescu: adlai that wasn't the most organised argument i ever read :p
adlai: ok that's enough. next time i bring up scalpl not in response to somebody else, please !down me
adlai: anybody trading on mpex want to try scalpl?
adlai: and then the guys who bagheld xmr through the great bear market of 2014 all take a group dump on the people who bought non-scarce goods