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mircea_popescu: i mean, suppose you do that. so ? people can just reup outside of your control, all you achieve is piss off the wot list.
mircea_popescu: is this a notable problem ?
kakobrekla: no the 'problem' is that if gribble hops and you reup you will be able to down everyone who has not reupped or some shit like that
mircea_popescu: then we can count how often this happens to de-l1 people.
mircea_popescu: leaving a loophole there deliberately where someone with >1 l1 and 0 l2 can still voice themselves
mircea_popescu: would it be hard to check on !down too ?
kakobrekla: the trust is checked on up only.
kakobrekla: if you up yourself, nobody can down you for the session.
cazalla: austeritysucks: csgo items mostly <<< if ya ever come back, lemme know the site
mircea_popescu: speak the word of god kako. why is it ?
mike_c: but regardless, it doesn't work. person has to part. this is why kako had to boot anduck manually.
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask joecool!~joecool@no-sources/joecool. Trust relationship from user assbot to user joecool: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=joecool | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=joecool | Rated since: Thu Apr 28 14:23:15 2011
joecool: who is L2 trust between, mp and user?
mike_c: no, !down doesn't work once l2 trust is <1
kakobrekla: well, the delay is the duration of his connection, which isnt too bad considering this is freenode.
mircea_popescu: nah, !down works once l2 trust is <1
thestringpuller: mike_c: there will always be netsplits
mike_c: until the person parts
mircea_popescu: people still can /ignore for that short interval, what's teh big deal
mircea_popescu: mike_c what's the delay currently, like 15 minutes ?
mircea_popescu: the link actually is to his previous bout of derping here
mike_c: btw kakobrekla, i was thinking possible an easy solution to the whole problem of "negrated person won't leave" might be another command. like !recheck Anduck. then if his l2 is no good assbot boots him.
mike_c: it was more meant as a rebuttal to his comment. people who have nothing to contribute type in here often :) he was a glaring example.
assbot: Logged on 22-12-2014 23:21:23; mike_c: <+Anduck> if you have nothing to contribute, you don't need to type anything here... k? << have you been in this channel before?
mircea_popescu: and it's what generally happens whenever a state claims to be "protecting rights". it's not protecting anything, it's stealing freedom and issuing in its place token "rights". which, much like its paper currency, are fiat worthlessness.
mircea_popescu: in any case : a freedom is something the people have, and the state can't take away. the rights are constructions that the state gives, and so the state can take away.
mircea_popescu: the difference between rights and freedoms being essentially the difference between pearl necklaces and dog collars.
thestringpuller: http://www.livingstondaily.com/story/news/local/community/brighton/2014/12/21/cursing-teen-mill-pond-ignites-debate-freedom-speech/20745957/ << this guy
mircea_popescu: i wonder how many people noticed the subtle change from freedom of speech to an alleged "right" of free speech.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: well just don't get arrested over freedom of speech lol << speech isn't really a freedom at that point is it?
rithm goes to kill himself
mircea_popescu: anyway, better off this way, had the democratic delusions failed to explode we'd just have been belabouring under falsepremises for this interval mostl likely, wouldn't have the lordship list and the supremely valuable understanding of what hierarchy means in society and why equalitarianism is the fruit of the devil jacking off and so on.
mircea_popescu: yeah you and a 2nd that never actually got to go on a jury didn't get anything. i think mebbe it was jurov ?
kakobrekla: seems like im listed in the judge list as well. just ftr i did not receive any compensation for my non-work (as i was not involved in a case).
mircea_popescu: i never had any idea, but liek... teh most fundamentally humane thing actually is going "hey, try again"
mircea_popescu: teh great lesson of bitcoinz : there's no backsies.
mircea_popescu: iirc rassah didn't want it because he didn't think he had done anything
rithm: i can look up the txid if you need
mircea_popescu: what, trying to imply something's missing ? nothing's missing, it's all there.
kakobrekla: >The total damage steming from this latest naivity of mine is 150 BTC in owed salaries which become due in December < this was actually paid ?
rithm: i still have the full channel logs
rithm: that's some sort of twisting of the facts. pay me to discuss it with you and I might.
mircea_popescu: either way, you know ? things should be what they are.
mircea_popescu: you used it to prove the common man belongs silent.
mircea_popescu: what's so offensive about it ? you had a chance to be like intelligent and prove the common man should have a voice.
rithm: afaik the rota thing was a mircea and wences setup
assbot: ROTA, post mortem. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hx8kKr )
thestringpuller: jborkl: hit or miss right? my asian friend calls it "asian GoT without the dragons"
mircea_popescu: i imagine neflix goes gangbusters mid to late decvember
thestringpuller has been watching too much netflix
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu is the next great khan...
mircea_popescu: kinda why democracy is a fucking stupid idea. the only logical counterbalance to the common man's moral myopia is a solid grasp on the кнут.
mircea_popescu: yet plenty of idiot muppets going "o noes, we tried to scam with 10 btc and it didn't work out like we wanted it to BLAME MP"
assbot: Logged on 22-12-2014 22:14:11; jurov: http://trilema.com/2013/rota-post-mortem/ << Anduck see the discussion, it's mircea's and kako's sacrosanct right to arrange unprotected hole in the foyer with a sign "whatever falls here, is our property"
rithm: all that text up above
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user magicaltux: Level 1: -1, Level 2: -22 via 14 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=magicaltux | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=magicaltux | Rated since: Mon Dec 20 13:21:21 2010
cornfeedhobo: thestringpuller: he is trustworthy because someone doxxed him a while back. even posted pictures of his mom. I never got the sense that it was genuine, but i could be wrong.
thestringpuller: lol i think he is rated lower than magicaltux
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user gmaxwell: Level 1: -10, Level 2: 20 via 14 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=gmaxwell | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=gmaxwell | Rated since: Mon Jul 25 13:49:45 2011
mircea_popescu: this was during that dry summer when it stayed at 2.x
mircea_popescu: i recall this one instance where i was going to buy some btc but the guy turned out to only have like 5 or so, and i was meh, for that much not worth my time going into paypal.
thestringpuller: man i miss those days
mircea_popescu: i dun recall which chan it was in tho, some pricewatchers something
mircea_popescu: it was oscilating aroudn there, at some point prior the pirate muppet was "going to ruin the price" while it went from low 6s to 7s.
jborkl: yeah, the weekend btcst went bust it dropped to $8
thestringpuller: I think he spends too much time in front of a computer and not enough time sleeping with girls.
mircea_popescu: eventually people started caring and it got crushed into the dirt, but for a year or so all sorts of bugs got to dance on the tools an' pretend.
thestringpuller: he's trustworthy tho, or at least was.
mircea_popescu: at the time, bitcoin was a few dollars and basically nobody gave much of a shit.
mircea_popescu: after my time.
mircea_popescu: joecool when was this ?
mircea_popescu: but he had an insider deal where he paid the various captains of industry more so they got the idea to resell.
mircea_popescu: jborkl: What was the rate, 7% per day? Or week << per week
cornfeedhobo: that is certainly what i have always thought
joecool: cornfeedhobo: still think the best was seeing a minor (danieldaniel) lend btc to a heroin addict (rg), -otc is always good entertainment
mircea_popescu: cornfeedhobo isn't support the hell computer afficionados go to die in ?
mircea_popescu: Apr 06 06:25:10 <pigeons>i set mine to "incorrect", so when i forget it, the app tells me
mircea_popescu: Apr 06 06:24:27 <rg>just set your password to asdfghjkl;' that way you can zip through the whole row. the enter key is even at the end. thats to root password to every bitvps server.
cornfeedhobo: he has gone out of his way too many times to be extremely rude. i found it fitting when he was hired by CoinBase
mircea_popescu: a really ? i never kept too close track. just a kid wandered in one day.
mircea_popescu: http://bitcoinstats.com/irc/bitcoin-otc/logs/2012/04/07#l1333839931 << bitvps had one of those "vote your favorite face" thing
mircea_popescu: i think guy was like 16 or something at the time
assbot: The froth of our days pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hx0Wid )
cornfeedhobo: gmaxwell? i think i may have missed the drama involving him ... mind filling me in?
mircea_popescu: well, let it be a lesson to all aspiring states : don't allow gmaxwells anywhere near anything, or they'll shit up your future.
cornfeedhobo: afaik, the ops have one
joecool: -otc can't even pull together an events bot
cornfeedhobo: i havent seen one in a year, i think
mircea_popescu: ^going through old logs.
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mats: it was entertaining to see Anduck chat again
joecool: no i wouldn't expect that to change over time if true
mircea_popescu: these things don't change over time i dun think.
mircea_popescu: joecool was a fact back then.
joecool: kakobrekla: i thought that was just a rumor, for months everyone thought he sold his forum login too, yet he claims not since he came back to irc
joecool: heh return of rg to irc seems to be causing arguments in all the bitcoin-* channels
thestringpuller: haha! I have no idea why we spend so much on marketing. These designers are wasting their precious time.
thestringpuller: and was about to start quoting trilema