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BingoBoingo: It's taken some time getting the right balance of dense enough and informative enough for newswriting
BingoBoingo: davout: Thank you
BingoBoingo: Well, that in your hands
thestringpuller: hopefully we can beat them on this other story too
BingoBoingo: So... Beat CCN and CoinDesk to that one.
thestringpuller: the girly calendar is a nice touch tho
BingoBoingo: Honestly I think they do it to get rid of whatever wine wasn't selling.
BingoBoingo: My favorite liquor store for the second year in a row gifted me with a bottle of wine and a girly calendar when I came in for cigarettes.
BingoBoingo: So Today I came out once again net positive in the course of my Christmas shopping.
mod6: asciilifeform: are you going to b-a?
kakobrekla: but now im stuck with it as the thing wont amortize over 750k years
kakobrekla bought the car back in the year when btc was 10bux or smth
kakobrekla: no, thats like 100 or something :D
jurov: 500? you bought tesla?
kakobrekla: i paid 500 btc for the car but no taxes.
jurov: yea i know. i am fine with 25k eur before taxes this year, even paid part of a new car from that
kakobrekla: i could live on even less than this.
xanthyos: there's an appeal to the pageantry of misery
jurov: lol i'm a miser too... why you though otherwise?
dignork: hey, i'm not a miser, just not too wealthy :)
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I don't think people really stay in this channel unless they are misers.
jurov: good to know, i'm not going either
kakobrekla not going there afaik.
jurov: kakobrekla: do you have prepared cover story when flying to argentina?
dignork: jurov: gift cards are not for you, hopefully you don't need this bizarre substitute :)
dignork: jurov: sorry to hear that, i like coinbr
thestringpuller: thx for the extended transparency and due diligence with your fiduciary duty
jurov: and i had inquiries like "we want api for coinbr" me: "it is possible, just very ratelimited... let's do it together, can you do 100BTC volume?"
thestringpuller: oh no. jurov what does that mean for customers?
jurov: <mike_c> [20141223 14:37] have you ever thought about adding the ability to short mpex stocks to coinbr? << coinbr is on hold atm. on one side it didn't make almost anything this year, on other side mpex is just not there reliability wise for solid service
thestringpuller: I guess it technically is already XMas for cazalla
thestringpuller: It was the day before X-Mas, all was silent, even in #b-a. Nothing stirred, not even a bot.
jurov: coinbr s.mpoe divs finally paid. to compensate for the waiting, twice the amount ;)
jurov: <mircea_popescu> somehow nobody goes "o look, mp paid 100s of btc so bitcoin financial space may exist" << you know, that space practically does not exist for them ☟︎
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BingoBoingo: It's interesting how in the US the title Secretary of State can alternately refer to the chief cocksucker at the Federal level and at the state level the chief Notarizing authority.
decimation: asciilifeform: wrt the state department, anything important being discussed with us 'trade partners' is discussed by private parties conducting the trade
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well, in the same way plot from "Watchmen" would be effective.
assbot: The Ron Paul Institute for Peace and Prosperity : Cold War Spy Games Show the Moral Bankruptcy of the US National Security State ... ( http://bit.ly/1xJY9SR )
decimation: the result was largely: bureaucrats who appear to be idiots in public also are in fact idiots in private
decimation: actually mr. assange already performed this experiment
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Effective leak would be that reptillians exist and are in panic because of impending Avian threat.
asciilifeform: decimation: department of state << try this gedankenexperiment. what could they possibly leak, that would have a measurable effect - with or without the cooperation of the state-controlled media
BingoBoingo: I guess I'll have to dearch nao
decimation: actually usg would be much better off if it simply disbanded the department of state
BingoBoingo wonders if soon after releasing Cardano, S.NSA will release a Maldardano sample tampered Cardano for people to practice searching for turditions on.
decimation: asciilifeform: ah good point. you are saying the entire state dept. doesn't matter
decimation: http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2014/february/09/victoria-nulands-ukraine-gate-deceptions/ << ron paul picked up the angle
asciilifeform: the secure facilities (actual ones, vs. ordinary 'favourite son' golden toilet contracts) are used. by the folks who matter.
asciilifeform: because they (correctly!) believed that it simply does not matter.
decimation: one wonders how many billions were spent to deploy the secure facilities that they fail to use
decimation: asciilifeform: My point is that no one in the entire us media 'noticed' that the intercept (which was supposedly sophisticated) came from usg 'leaders' talking on unsecure lines
asciilifeform: all that resulted was a leak, of facts which anglo media will never print - so it's almost as good, from their point of view, as 'never happened' ☟︎
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decimation: the original blackberry actually took over an older 'pager-like' frequency allocation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DataTAC
asciilifeform: ukraine << so what. did even a single usg minion die from the intercepted phone ?
BingoBoingo: Microphoneless smart Pnohe is the way to Pnohe, because BB pager recieves calls, records a message. To return calls you battery up a flip phone.
asciilifeform: decimation: usg 'leaders' think of themselves as being above such trivialities as secure communications << of what concern is what a muppet says to another muppet ?
BingoBoingo: joecool: I don't have problems with big UX changes. I care more about what is happening and why. Unsolder the microphone and camera in old blackberry, works as a pager like god intended. Unsolder camera and microphone in shitty LG android phone doesn't work as pager or play angry birds!
decimation: "GPG is too hard, no one will use it"
decimation: principal with the Chertoff Group, a Washington-based consulting firm led by former senior U.S. security and intelligence officials."
decimation: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/07/ukraine-phonecall-idUSL2N0LC1E120140207 " Mark Weatherford, a former deputy under secretary for cybersecurity with the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, said that some senior government officials were issued mobile handsets that are capable of encrypting conversations but typically do not use them "It is expensive. They are different phones. They are cumbersome," said Weatherford, now a
assbot: BBC News - Ukraine crisis: Transcript of leaked Nuland-Pyatt call ... ( http://bit.ly/1vlSXif )
decimation: there there is this episode: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26079957
joecool: otherwise i never would have considered blackberry, it's a shame they have a worthless marketing division
joecool: the whole style of UX on BB10 is very similar to the nokia n9's harmattan
BingoBoingo: joecool: Ah, before I did BBOS 7 I was on Symbian whatever and then Android.
joecool: oh see i hated BBOS7, i came from the harmattan/maemo background prior
decimation: one gets the picture that usg 'leaders' think of themselves as being above such trivialities as secure communications
joecool: i like my Z10 tbh, only thing i'd improve is better battery life, i'm a bit concerned by some of the new "features" coming down in 10.3.x releases
BingoBoingo: decimation: Nothing wrong with Nation State actors working to keep tabs on Nation State actors.
BingoBoingo: I have to confess the new blackberry classic does tempt... But for extra antifeatures over flip phone is unappealing.
decimation: because it contained too many 'antifeatures'
decimation: except that's probably the retard version
decimation: asciilifeform: agreed. this kind of thing: http://www.gdc4s.com/sectera-edge-(sme-ped)-proddetail.html
asciilifeform: anything that does not conform to this principle, i argue is ipso facto not secure for any reasonable definition of the word.
asciilifeform: the principal thing-not-to-do is complexity that prevents fits-in-head
asciilifeform: we're speaking of 'secure computing' as if it were an actual technology, like +ev fusion or whatnot
decimation: asciilifeform: it's possible that at least someone inside usg who was charged with developing secure computing actually got somewhere
asciilifeform: decimation: but my sources believe they're under continuous bureaucratic siege to go 'standards compliant'
asciilifeform: decimation: usg did have a few 'parallel universes' of computing. there is, afaik, still a lab or two that use symbolics boxes, for example
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Teletype (paper) display, commodore 64
asciilifeform: decimation: with own parallel universe, where neither 'microshit office' nor 'bash' nor 'openssl', nor any of the constituent parts, are in use ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I thought "trojan" was falling out of fashion because fashion is now to go cloud where it is given that Eve already has root.
decimation: asciilifeform: I think it's the case that there is (or was) some meta-usg lab that could conceive and develop secure terminal - perhaps already has
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: notice how the term 'trojan' has mostly faded from Official claptrap re: 'seekoority'
asciilifeform: decimation: this is about as thinkable to present-day academics - and turdware industrialist peddlers alike - as galois theory was to the romans
decimation: the fbi claims it was an email attachment that dropped some scanners that guess passwords to smb shares
decimation: that's the midget that the usg has squashed by sitting on the computer industry stool
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: actual exploit in the sense that no cooperation is needed from the luser
decimation: imagine if the billions poured into 'cybersecurity' were spent on constructing an actual secure terminal from first principles
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: But how often can actual exploit be truly distinguished from McDonalds exploit fed to the consuminator?
decimation: asciilifeform: I agree with your hypothesis in that I think USG genuinely guides the computer industry into insecurity
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: In that case there hasn't ever been an "attack" in the history of the internet
asciilifeform: 'attacker' (via spammail or telephone) - 'can plz has password' sony clerk: 'aye, here'
thestringpuller: I'm pretty sure there is some privatize black site that is superior to USG version.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: reading from only the official material, that is precisely the kind of 'attack' involved.
thestringpuller: BingoBoingo: it seems privatized groups are better at disappearing acts than the USG's agency.