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BingoBoingo really wants a fucking time machine
asciilifeform: within the constraints of the available chemistry and lithography
asciilifeform: in that they get placed how you like
asciilifeform: whereas when you lay out logic for a traditionally fabbed ic, the circuits, well, 'move'
asciilifeform: but the machinery that is 'plugged' together - does not move.
asciilifeform: with an sram-controlled plugboard rather than physical one
asciilifeform: fpga is internally very much like the well-known 'eniac'
BingoBoingo: Well, considering Solaris 8 did webserving for them well into the solaris 10 life cycle... Prolly Sun OS 3
asciilifeform: but the answer to the puzzle of what sun used for logic synthesis - i haven't any idea
BingoBoingo: Sure, but what sphicter sculpts the Xilinx turd.
asciilifeform: closes xilinx turd, yes
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: whatcha talking about, i built it sans winblows
BingoBoingo: We're talking a company (Sun) that took more than a decade to realize they could assemble systems on benches instead of the floor. They have to have/had a legacy non-winblows tool chain that might still be in use.
BingoBoingo: The same way BFL FPGA miners were crippled. Adapted for winblows shit toolchain instead of whatever archane elder less smelly turdchain sun nursed internally.
BingoBoingo: Well, crippled in ways. The seemingly easy ways to uncripple for hardcopy rather than rewritable FPGAs is to VLIW it.
asciilifeform: anyone who wants one - can go get (it builds for the larger among the common fpga)
BingoBoingo: Well, isn't that all Open SParc is?
BingoBoingo: Just seeing that combination of busses has me thinking OpenSparc.
BingoBoingo: Not explicitly, but... Just going off of what my gut feels reading a machine translation
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asciilifeform: https://trmm.net/EFI << for some reason nobody brought this up here
asciilifeform wasn't there, didn't make this, has no idea how much plagiarized heathen 'verilog' etc. is in that thing.
asciilifeform: ru-designed mb too - but with, looks like, heathen peripherals
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: http://www.computerra.ru/112660/mcst-and-micron-releases-monokub-mb-with-elbrus-2cm-cpu << i don't feel like translating, but - first ru-designed cpu, afaik, this century - hits the press.
BingoBoingo: Bamboo shits are the worst.
jborkl: Haha yeah we don't want to shit on by the panda
jborkl: Next article you write for qntra link to me, I will link back
BingoBoingo: OMG MP vacation has been one of the best things to happen to MPOE price... aside from saving OpenBSD.
undata: BingoBoingo: you're going to what, attack me via the locally running emacs?
BingoBoingo: undata: Are you really listing all of these particular pieces of software you depend on.
undata: weechat.el speaks the weechat IRC relay protocol, and there's mu4e + offlineimap for mail
undata: why do that when I can get out to elsewhere via tramp?
undata: emacs is on the laptop, mail and IRC are elsewhere
undata: BingoBoingo: oh I love emacs; still need something for when you shut the laptop though
BingoBoingo: Come on there isn't a single personal server need that isn't well served by emacs.
undata: Pierre_Rochard: there's always a bouncer
BingoBoingo: Everyone has to solve it in their own way
BingoBoingo: Ah, that problem
Pierre_Rochard: that keeps me from opening it myself, but doesn’t keep me off twitter haha
Pierre_Rochard: I’ll have to cook up a script that logs me in and auths automatically whenever I open my laptop, there’s a pyschological barrier when I have a pile of work to do
BingoBoingo: Well,... You know IRC is always open... Even when MP's on a vacation that's apparently growing tits
Pierre_Rochard: Hi, I was starting to miss this place
undata: BingoBoingo: the video's full of fakers flashing guns
BingoBoingo: undata: Chicago this year is poor example. They had a relatively peaceful year... for SHitcago.
BingoBoingo: Of course. Fire has metabolism, so it is a living thing. I kill about 20 fires a day when I put out my cigarettes.
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asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: then forest fire has ideology
BingoBoingo: But... the 3d printed gun dude says burn it all down is an ideology...
undata: asciilifeform: yep, during the recent portland "protest" I found a livestream of some hipster there; he was flirting with a girl for the 20sec I watched
asciilifeform: and it's more entertaining than rotgut and tv news.
asciilifeform: they go out, same as in usg-sponsored 'colour revolutions', because 'there's action tonight'
asciilifeform: neglected detail being, most of the participants, as i understand, aren't ideologically moved
BingoBoingo: I dunno that it is much more illiterate. I've met plenty of dumb white folk.
undata: everybody in america thinks they were somehow robbed of making it big like everyone else did
undata: the looting is just a more illiterate version of the same entitlement the white trash has
BingoBoingo: But, this being America no one really owns anything.
BingoBoingo: And then the comfortable white suburbanites went to more comfortable and more suburban places. Leaving them with white trash
BingoBoingo: Or at least they did until they moved to Ferguson.
BingoBoingo: They know of comfortable white suburbanites, but infrequently see them outside of police uniforms.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: But to them the white suburbanites have scales.
asciilifeform: who somehow lives off their tears
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: as i understand, the rioters have no truck with lizard hitler; they protest against an imagined comfortable white suburbanite
BingoBoingo: 'He retorts the all too common accusation thrown at rioters: “People wanna say we destroying our own neighborhoods. We don’t own nothing out here!”' << what does white man own in usa ? << Common mistake of using the general "white man", Whiteman own nothing for being white. Anglo-Saxon-Lizard hybrids though...
BingoBoingo: Normally they just shoot, but lack the marksmanship to hit anything at all.
asciilifeform: what do 'they' normally shoot there?
BingoBoingo: I only link it, because apparently tonight there has been yet another shooting incident in Ferguson. No idea yet if a person has been shot.
asciilifeform: 'He retorts the all too common accusation thrown at rioters: “People wanna say we destroying our own neighborhoods. We don’t own nothing out here!”' << what does white man own in usa ?
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kakobrekla: first 1/3 of blockchain is less than 500mb.
asciilifeform: rather than an actual product with a future.
asciilifeform: according to one source, it's actually a grantsmanship/embezzlement scheme against chinese gov.
BingoBoingo: Loongson seems to be a "parachute"
decimation: but then they wouldn't 'open source' anything
decimation: the only incentive I can imagine is if the chinese gov't decides to subsidize the project
asciilifeform: i also explained that they have no economic incentive at all to do this.
decimation: perhaps they are an engine waiting for the right driver (to use mircea's analogy)
decimation: as asciilifeform has explained in the past, this isn't in their 'dna', but who knows
decimation: it's sad that some enterprising chinaman doesn't try to steal fpga designs/warez
decimation: apparently the best chips are only on the 28nm process
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the most that exists is a very straight linux port.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: nothing is being built particular to it!
decimation: lol the latest version has 'new instructions' in order to emulate x86 according to wikipedia
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: For a long time ARM wasn't either. The point is it exists at the moment mostly to build history so it might seem a credible option later.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: for instance, i'm unable to find it advertised for sale at anything like a reasonable price, anywhere on the planet
kakobrekla: myea, best to trust china :)
BingoBoingo: Don't worry. China is baking up Loongson so that there will be another turdwarez platform when the USG can no longer prop up Arm.
decimation: I mention this because nearly all arm chips come baked in a SoC
decimation: also, certain hardware variants of phones are known to have problems with battery discharge, etc
decimation: apparently it is common practice for the vendor to ship broken hardware and paper over defects with a special google-blessed turdware
asciilifeform: iirc, it was designed by a woman. i won't psychiatrize on this point, but let's see what mircea makes of it!
asciilifeform: at least intel no longer collects royalties for x86. and does not directly supply the circuit to every producer
asciilifeform: incidentally, i bring up 'arm' to remind folks that we are quickly approaching (or perhaps past) the point of being stuck with a turd every bit as odious as x86
asciilifeform: because that is who ultimately decides what is used in the great slave mines of usa
asciilifeform: decimation: this means 'be the darling of the usg crown'
decimation: if you want to be the dominant computer arch, you want to be the arch that will host the most warez - in the future
kakobrekla: dicking around i thought.
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: thx, but i don't need these for anything
decimation: asciilifeform: there is a direct parallel between the 'bubble' that is arm/x86 and the 'bubble' that is 'USD'