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Fun: I am suprised
that large russian corporations did not hedge
their loans fx risks, or maybe
they did :D
thestringpuller: tl;dr
there would be no phishing if everyone used GPG correctly.
mircea_popescu: decimation pretty sure
they actually let you
trade on cme.
decimation: probably much more liquid
than holding something special
decimation: Fun: on
the web brokerages mircea suggests
they certainly sell options on
those etfs
thestringpuller: easily repudiable << is
this why
twitter has
to verify celebrities?
mircea_popescu: but you can use a broker, by now
they cater even
to people with 10k or something.
Fun: decimation: I want
to buy options direct
mircea_popescu: punkman and you're doing
this suddenly and without consultation while it's also down unnaounced because why ?
mircea_popescu: they do a
typically fiat
thing whereby
they act like gpg is sorta like you know,
this soft
toy
thing.
they get an address like it were a social media profile.
thestringpuller: ascii_modem mircea_popescu: its just surprising
that none of
these "businesses" have pub-keys published for verification purposes.
punkman: mircea_popescu: problem is I'm reimplementing website in PHP and also changing bot
to send shit
to PHP reliably, and it's all a bit
tangled up at
the moment
ascii_modem: unless
that key is welded
to
their
traditional corporate charter, or at least proclaimed amidst fanfare by an officer - why believe it at all ?
Fun: the price for option is in
those high low columns or where?
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller not on
their site ? maybe it's really /coinbasederp instead ?
mircea_popescu: punkman
that's good. so what is
the problem, exactly, what's
the plan
to resolve it, usefull stuff like
that, pls.
punkman: anyone want
to setup and admin
the supybot/electrum box
to speed
things up?
cazalla: ascii_modem,
they signed
they last audit using
the bitcoin address 1EFJUipfCHFmmTFkF9vvjFKdBf3VbfvarM but no gpg afaik
mircea_popescu: decimation doesn't have
to be in chicago. everyone does it, including all
the web providers, optionsxpress, schwab, you name it
mircea_popescu: punkman im not one iota closer
to a sensible situaiton here.
ascii_modem: bitstamp... confirm... <<< do we even know of a published pubkey for
them
mircea_popescu: and jack shit i can do about it,
too, because notary's dead and so on and so fucking forth.
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: Well... cazalla's article. You know you could do one if you want on
their old fee rape bot from back in
the day.
Fun: any exchange can get vol by cycling btc on
their boobs
kakobrekla: i said self proclaimed - check
their frontpage.
decimation: kakobrekla: BingoBoingo: according
to bitcoin charts bitstamp is #3 in volume right now
Fun: afterward EU said bad bad boys and said
they are going
to finance greece directly but perhaps
thats just words
Fun: who in
turn seems
to packed and sold it as derivatives
Fun: its bizzare
that greek debt is financed atleast was financed in past via some usa banks lol
kakobrekla: i
thought i get paid if you include
those 6 words, or at least 2, since 4 are
the quote.
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: Qntra has comments form. Also no need
to do math
to post comment
mircea_popescu: am i going "this has
to be reimplemented for
the
third
time" ?
kakobrekla: i would add
to
the article "self proclaimed 'World's leading Bitcoin exchange'"
kakobrekla: decimation nothing goes down relative
to bitcoin
mircea_popescu: can i get more detail out of you
than "it's being worked on"!
Fun: lol it depends on which banks hold
the potato :D
decimation: Fun: euro and dollar go 'down' relative
to what? bitcoin?
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla he likes
the word. it bestows journalismity.
Fun: however if greeks exit
thats great, euro and dollar may go down alot lol
Fun: who is going
to cover derivatives
Fun: I just read
the Greek government debt is at 175 percent right now, runs up
to €330 billion. And a lot of debt nowadays is ensured in
the derivative markets :)
kakobrekla: well ignorance is bliss what more is
there.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: And
these peaks are closer
than
the last
Apocalyptic: <kakobrekla> how
the fuck
they lose private keys? // ask
them
decimation: what kind of 'responsible' exchange keeps keys anywhere near a
terminal connected
to
the internet?
assbot: BitBet - Bitcoin
to drop under 200$ before Feb :: 1.05 B (33%) on Yes, 2.09 B (67%) on No | closing in 2 weeks 2 days | weight: 98`291 (100`000
to 10`000) ... (
http://bit.ly/1xJbLeE )
ascii_modem: that is what law now is.
to be
thought of in
the same light as ebola.
ascii_modem: that qntra link: see earlier
thread re: how
to
think of law.
decimation: mircea_popescu: re: knc miner refund << yeah in BTC
terms
they
took about %70 haircut, but I
think
they do all
their accounting in fiat (they convert bitcoin
to fiat upon reception)
mircea_popescu: and holy shit, don't you just love
this brave new world with such policemen in it.
ascii_modem: write a proper ircd <<< what exactly is
this ?
cazalla: anyone have a bitstamp account an able
to confirm if
they sent out an email 30m ago?
PinkPosixPXE: thank you! It was good
to chat with you guys again and check in.. I may disappear a bit later when we move my vps because we have
to do an offline migration, but I'll always return, and be around :)
PinkPosixPXE: 30 minute break, and
they are already pinging for my help
PinkPosixPXE: anywho.. I better get back
to helping
them with
these migrations
PinkPosixPXE: I want
to make sur eI can offer both offshore and us hosting as well
PinkPosixPXE: but it's defiitely gaining momentum, and with
time, it'll happen
PinkPosixPXE: I just need
to do a little math on 'units of
time/energ/projects' and potential independence from my day job at some point so I have more
time
PinkPosixPXE: but
that's a great idea, and an offer I'd definitely be interested in potentially pursuing, and discussing further with you mircea_popescu
PinkPosixPXE: with so many projects, I have
to make sure I can get everything
taken care of
PinkPosixPXE: right now, I've spent so much
time and energy
through
the holidays helping
this provider/friend, and while I'll probably get an endless supply of vps resources from him at a prorated "nothing" .. I need
to setup a business and direction for
the future of my own
thing, or at least make money when I output
time/work
ben_vulpes: finance your fiat VPS situation yourself, and run it in parallel with
the BTC VPS MP wants
to finance.
PinkPosixPXE: technically, I can finance it on my own, but I guess I'm still in
the process of working out
the details, and I guess regardless, I just need
to make sure all
the
time and work I put into admining everything is getting me money and setting me up for some independence career wise
PinkPosixPXE: you would put
the initial investment in
the dedi's?
teh competitively priced ones might be in
the arena of $300-400/mo
to rent depending upon how competitive I want my services
to be, and I will probably be buying something
through voxility
mircea_popescu: PinkPosixPXE how about i buy you some dedis and you admin
them and run a host for btc business ?
kakobrekla: you dont need
to voice him he is opped
kakobrekla: anyway my suggestion: give unique address for each palyment which you monitor for certain period of
time. if you use bit32 you can generate new addresses on
the fly on
the server without private key or else pregenerate
them and
throw
them in db
PinkPosixPXE: glad I didn't buy when it dropped
to 310 last week
PinkPosixPXE: I might buy at 250.. as long as it keeps
trending back up
ben_vulpes: you have a
thing
that works, congrats.
PinkPosixPXE: oh yea, api -> webapp -> blochain updates..
too slow
kakobrekla: wait whut is
this no separate address bsns