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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they, along with lmi, texas instruments, racal norsk, and possibly a few others, sold dedicated lisp cpu. which made engineering sense at the time
asciilifeform would like to read a mircea_popescu mega-piece on the death of smbx one day
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: and the other computer vendors at the time were angels ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'd much like to be proven wrong... go, bring back symbolics co.
assbot: Logged on 16-01-2016 23:27:13; pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: hard to make a small steel mill ? yes. impossible ? no.
assbot: Logged on 16-01-2016 23:21:10; pete_dushenski: you better have a unique turn signal stalk in your 599 gtb. or else.
assbot: Logged on 16-01-2016 23:14:09; pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-01-2016#1372994 << this is readily disproven by the markets for tourbillons, cessnas, and ferraris. none of which "need" the mass market. so even if these manufacturers might sell some swag to the plebes and make a dime doing it, they arguably innovated more before they reduced themselves to part-time sheep herding..
assbot: Logged on 16-01-2016 23:07:49; pete_dushenski: ^berlin airport completed in 1927, when commercial air travel was far from accessible. and still, infrastructure was built ! whaddyaknow !
assbot: Logged on 16-01-2016 23:06:50; pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-01-2016#1372972 << in this world (http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-01-2016#1372966), driving a car would be more akin to flying on a plane in the 1920s. eg. http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2699/4411312464_e0e3489c45_o.jpg http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3728/11356192895_6961403e9f_b.jpg http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2636/4131214531_e8206d265d_b.jpg
assbot: Logged on 16-01-2016 22:54:13; mod6: <+ben_vulpes> mod6: press of a given head should result in the *exact same* tree under all V's, as i understand it << mine was ever so slightly varient from alfs
assbot: Logged on 16-01-2016 22:54:45; *: pete_dushenski assumes osx 10.6 discs would be hard to come by
assbot: Logged on 16-01-2016 22:54:13; mod6: <+ben_vulpes> mod6: press of a given head should result in the *exact same* tree under all V's, as i understand it << mine was ever so slightly varient from alfs
assbot: Logged on 16-01-2016 22:53:27; pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-01-2016#1372610 << now you sound like stan from the 21/comcast thread ;/ "hashing is hard and we'll never see xx% difficulty resets again. who would want go to the bother ?!"
assbot: Logged on 16-01-2016 22:52:05; ben_vulpes: mod6: press of a given head should result in the *exact same* tree under all V's, as i understand it
assbot: Logged on 16-01-2016 22:50:57; ben_vulpes: mod6: eh it probably doesn't work anyways
assbot: Logged on 16-01-2016 23:32:21; pete_dushenski: in other nyooz, http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Y2z3R_xAyz4/Vpm37QlC7EI/AAAAAAAAkNY/ZdErfw38yvs/s640/ra7MzGf.jpg
assbot: Logged on 17-01-2016 00:19:47; pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-01-2016#1373173 << you ever get past 40% finished on the re-write ?
assbot: Logged on 17-01-2016 00:12:50; jurov: irc you and mircea_popescu expect power to hang or stake certain people.. that's pretty close to "all" end
assbot: Logged on 16-01-2016 22:52:05; ben_vulpes: mod6: press of a given head should result in the *exact same* tree under all V's, as i understand it
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-01-2016#1373499 >> yes it should. << yup. the topological flow might be ever so slightly different when listed, but the resulting pressed tree must be exactly the same. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 16-01-2016 23:45:44; pete_dushenski: jurov: i can see it. and while i agree there would be trade-offs (less reliability, more difficulty find parts perhaps), i think that the benefits would more than compensate and that product designers would adapt themselves accordingly (eg. making repairs possible without specialised equipment and using more readily available parts)
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> but the ONLY difference is that instead of cox writing 10k 50 dollar bills for cable each month, a coupla hundred people sign off on cable bills worth 10k dollars each once a year. and the internet is twice as good. << Kinda why US municipalities with good internet have a maximum size.
assbot: Logged on 16-01-2016 22:52:05; ben_vulpes: mod6: press of a given head should result in the *exact same* tree under all V's, as i understand it
assbot: Logged on 16-01-2016 21:49:24; mod6: ;;later tell pete_dushenski pretty neat ice scuptures. i'd like to see an ice sculpture of a guy with a sharpie in pooper.
assbot: Logged on 16-01-2016 20:41:15; mircea_popescu: sez so right in the merchant of venice!
assbot: Logged on 16-01-2016 20:31:38; ascii_shmoocon: and holyfuq are these talks snorefest
jurov: irc you and mircea_popescu expect power to hang or stake certain people.. that's pretty close to "all" end ☟︎
jurov: pete_dushenski: of course he will delegate
jurov: pete_dushenski: why would a person pay for such an one-of-a-few computer?
pete_dushenski: in other nyooz, http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Y2z3R_xAyz4/Vpm37QlC7EI/AAAAAAAAkNY/ZdErfw38yvs/s640/ra7MzGf.jpg ☟︎
jurov: "of course you can" - at this point i sent mircea_popescu to grow si monocrystals and use hf
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: hard to make a small steel mill ? yes. impossible ? no. ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 16:17:36; pete_dushenski: pagani even has proprietary titanium-reinforced carbon fibre. very nifty.
jurov: pete_dushenski: established production lines for all the materials, metal alloys, glass, rubber, plastic composites
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: sports cars generally suck in town at the best of times. fine for pulling up to restaurant and looking sharp, but everything else sucks until you're on the wide open road
jurov: pete_dushenski: in the hypothetical 15k world
jurov: pete_dushenski: that calls for ugly all-terrain steam (cuz no uniquitous gasoline) contraption
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-01-2016#1372972 << in this world (http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-01-2016#1372966), driving a car would be more akin to flying on a plane in the 1920s. eg. http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2699/4411312464_e0e3489c45_o.jpg http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3728/11356192895_6961403e9f_b.jpg http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2636/4131214531_e8206d265d_b.jpg ☝︎☝︎☟︎
jurov: pete_dushenski: done
mod6: in that v_steps.pl file, you'll see the sha256 hashes are kept in a here-doc so they can be repeatedly tested.
assbot: Logged on 16-01-2016 18:53:17; ascii_shmoocon: holy shit everything mircea ever said was true
BingoBoingo: <mod6> for instance, in the flow ordering it doesn't really matter which comes first: maxint_locks_corrected or add_verifyall as long as they both come after their respective antecedents. << This threw me for a loop the first time.
mod6: for instance, in the flow ordering it doesn't really matter which comes first: maxint_locks_corrected or add_verifyall as long as they both come after their respective antecedents.
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> makes for low snr is what is does << The classic lulz are worth watching just because the trigger might get pulled leading to the other triggers getting pulled. Peace in Our Time (TM)(R)
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: "and then you'll deploy all of said home routers to ~all~ customers within 6 months"
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: weev's tracker
mod6: <+ben_vulpes> what do you mean "precedence levels" << as long as this is met. meaning that certain things come before other things.
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: "we'll give you a zillion dollars provided you spend it all designing and producing our next generation of home routers"?
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: where'd you get a copy of 10.6 ?
mod6: <+ben_vulpes> mod6: press of a given head should result in the *exact same* tree under all V's, as i understand it << mine was ever so slightly varient from alfs ☟︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 16-01-2016 16:08:10; mircea_popescu: if it doesn't climb 1/3 in 9 months some people will make incredible bank
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: lolno
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: does crapple still sell 10.6 anywhere ?
mod6: ben_vulpes's version in CL looks neat, but i can't even figure out how to run it since im a lisptard.
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: neato
assbot: Logged on 16-01-2016 15:56:11; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-01-2016#1372272 << is that so ?
ben_vulpes: hey pete_dushenski you may be entertained to hear that my openbsd adventures have led me to download 10.6 and dd it onto a usb
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: can you explain the rubens == mercedes connection ? not sure i quite got that point
assbot: Logged on 16-01-2016 14:33:59; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-01-2016#1371985 << the other consideration is that europe is chock full of bad copies of the classical masters. and they all suck, except the few that don't. such as for instance rubens, who learned to paint by doing a poor job of copying at first. or michelangelo, or anyone else. because yes, everyone that ever was a master painter learned his craft by trying h
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: it's like reading the tabloids, lulz fodder, bat boy, etc.
assbot: Logged on 16-01-2016 14:31:01; mircea_popescu: dude what a badass looking truck. how the fuck could the ammo churning, tailgate partying, truck racing subculture not buy this through the roof is well beyond me. but then again... i'll take the newton defense.
assbot: Logged on 16-01-2016 14:29:16; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-01-2016#1371972 << ah so it was tried already, didn't catch on. alrighty then!
assbot: VPATCH_GRAPH ... ( http://bit.ly/1KdVBAp )
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: But if Hamplanets can claim the same
mod6: And ben_vulpes wrote one in CL
mod6: heeey this is really neat 'RUN echo "Building Daemon" \ ... && wget <URL_TO_FOUNDATION>/v0.5.3...tar.gz \ ...'
jurov: x86_64-therealbitcoin-linux-musl-gcc: error: unrecognized command line option '-V' << this
mod6: # gcc-config -l [1] x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-4.8.4 *
mod6: CC='/mnt/btc-dev/rotor/toolchain/usr/bin/x86_64-therealbitcoin-linux-musl-gcc'
assbot: Logged on 16-01-2016 18:20:12; mircea_popescu: http://www.secureworks.com/cyber-threat-intelligence/threats/bgp-hijacking-for-cryptocurrency-profit/ << somewhat old but i dun recall it being in the log.
punkman: ben_vulpes: aaand that was actually indonesia, so i'm probably thinking about the wrong thing. << it was actually floods in Thailand.
mod6: ;;later tell pete_dushenski pretty neat ice scuptures. i'd like to see an ice sculpture of a guy with a sharpie in pooper. ☟︎
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> jurov did the foundation ever spend anything, i forget. <+ben_vulpes> foundation spend << not to date << technically we have made one expenditure, paying jurov his yearly fee.
jurov: and i'm no mircea_popescu to get execution on my projects for $0.1/hr :(
mircea_popescu: ascii_shmoocon in his defense, he's not a manager.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes incidentally did that other guy work out, what's his name
jurov: ascii_shmoocon i did offer you to become a contractor to my company, paid by $$$, you recoiled in horror
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes ;)
BingoBoingo: ascii_shmoocon: Maybe next october?
mircea_popescu: ascii_shmoocon you gotta at some point stop acting and trying to think like a child.
assbot: Logged on 16-01-2016 20:56:29; mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo except he doesn't seem to want them ; and besides, what confidence does a bum inspire to be a chief engineer ?
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_shmoocon
jurov: mircea_popescu: i am actually trying to hire someone, but for that need to shift part of s.nsa stash
mircea_popescu: ascii_shmoocon you'd also be lying if you didn't say you specifically hate it.
mircea_popescu: ascii_shmoocon what coins ?
adlai: !up ascii_shmoocon
assbot: Logged on 16-01-2016 20:10:40; mircea_popescu: when a butt-ugly wench that should be thankful if she ever gets laid for free imagines herself above what kim kardashian / the very peak of her profession actually make, it's indisputable the self-valuation ran amok.
mircea_popescu: ascii_shmoocon i'm pretty firmly dedicated to having spectacular sex with any and all mps. why kill each other ?!
mircea_popescu: ascii_shmoocon da fuck, i only killed idiots to date.
jurov: how do i fix the timescale? by abducting ascii_shmoocon to north korea?
mircea_popescu: ascii_shmoocon i do not see why not.
mircea_popescu: ascii_shmoocon no, because none of them can actually do anything.
assbot: Logged on 16-01-2016 20:06:27; mircea_popescu: "oh, i got better opportunities elsewhere" "working on fixing tyhat" "i'd rather sit on reddit than work for a fair rate NO MATTER WHAT" "i guess we put a reddit lcd on your tombstone then".
mircea_popescu: !up ascii_shmoocon
jurov: ascii_shmoocon: looky now who is throwing rivers of meat on the problem
jurov: eh mircea_popescu, go grow si monocrystals and wash the wafers in hf yourself
assbot: Logged on 16-01-2016 19:49:41; mircea_popescu: i dunno why you think the world is chump-backed. it ain't. usg is, sure, but whatevs.
mircea_popescu: !up ascii_shmoocon
phf: ben_vulpes: what i meant is that in a city like new york or sf where everything's covered in cars at saturation, fighting over areas in front of shops seems like a meaningful endeavor, but portland?
mircea_popescu: ascii_shmoocon mention of menstruation triggers me.