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BingoBoingo: So this internet of things... What the fuck is not intuitive enough about how a stove works already.
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: Apparently you aren't supposed to use the powder for that.
mircea_popescu: poor kako. everyone sucks, and then he gets depressed and teh woman offers to suck him...
BingoBoingo: Even with. With WoT you'd still likely need a more tangible item to trade for that many than $$$$... Prolly Plutonium would do.
kakobrekla: actually not reading chan to be reminded how all sucks helps as well.
mircea_popescu: definitely to people without a wot.
mircea_popescu: "the smaller sum of 18,000 BTC missing presents a still more onerous obstacle than Mt Gox faced in absolute terms as that many Bitcoin are largely unavailable to most people at any price denominated in national currency."
kakobrekla: now that im banned im just depressed.
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: If you want to write a "Bitstamp always sucked piece" Qntra could run it.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla oh i thought it was new. mah bad.
kakobrekla: that is taken from forums from years ago?
mircea_popescu: kako sounds so angry in interviews. you gotta relax for teh press man!
mircea_popescu: well... fixed that.
mircea_popescu: "BitStamp surpassed Mt Gox is trading volume in 2013, largely on the strength of its not being Mt Gox."
mircea_popescu: mike_c that's a point.
mike_c: I will get 0 comments and have no idea how bad the problem is.
mircea_popescu: "A total of 18,867.62695929 BTC were moved from BitStamp's hot wallet"
mike_c: that is a much bigger problem on the wiki. For you, you will get x comments and know there are 10x problems
mircea_popescu: afaik it works fine, but then again how do i know.
mircea_popescu: mike_c was more curious trying to keep track of that eternal "nobody complains so no problems" thing
BingoBoingo: On Coindesk of course. Never on their official site
mircea_popescu: and they can cover 5mn+. through the process of what ?
BingoBoingo: Yeah, they claim to be able to over all, but they admit to 18k + "gone"
BingoBoingo hopes these sutures heal without much of a scar.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Nah, it is this years's Derp spores beginning to emerge from the damp log.
svetlana: irccloud is pretty central; I'll disappear for a bit, thanks for bearing with me
mircea_popescu: is it women in tech day or something ?
mircea_popescu: all this emotion talk, surprises, expectations, feelings and whatnot.
BingoBoingo still waits for avians to depose lizards
kakobrekla: whats next, sending people to ircloud ?
kakobrekla: svetlana vpn is not much better than a bnc and tor wont fly here.
kakobrekla: you think it lizards ?
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla asciilifeform slow, but i see it. anyway, eventually derp will run out of juice in an hour or whatever xmas money affords and that's that.
svetlana: I'll get someone to write a good guide on the bitcoin wiki (I'm not good at this subject and I found someone who is better)
cazalla: bit bored of it atm tbh, might take a little break from it and come back to it in a few weeks
cazalla: mebe, no time for pokemon atm though
svetlana: I don't expect it to be very easy to attack ...
svetlana: isn't vpn distributed? I'm rather surprised at that reaction
BingoBoingo: svetlana: You'd e surprised how infrequent specific BTC talk is here
svetlana: I didn't think that discussing non-bitcoin stuff here is very welcome, but if you want me to stop talking with you in /msg I'm fine with that :)
kakobrekla: please svetlana if you have anything to say, here instead.
kakobrekla: svetlana here is butthurt and types in wrong (mine) window http://dpaste.com/131FHBZ.txt
asciilifeform: when the moon is just waning.
asciilifeform: i still want that fpga that evolves to live in one particular floor tile of your cellar.
asciilifeform currently failing to load mircea_popescu's site, but believes that somewhere it works
asciilifeform: at any rate, i did bring it up in here on a few occasions. but did append the gotcha, 'not ready for battlefield because little time' - which is presently true
mircea_popescu: well cuz i didnt know, cuz someone didn't tell me
asciilifeform: now one of you lot will end up having to write it!
asciilifeform: why mircea_popescu had to ruin my surprise gift to the fine folks of #b-a. i was gonna roll that thing out with cardano.
asciilifeform: anyone who wants to receive the current pubmessage snapshot can start listening at any point, and will eventually end up with it
asciilifeform: in my 'error coding' scheme, the station transmits at all times.
asciilifeform: the other nice thing re: udp is that a connectionless/stateless protocol frustrates traffic analysis very well.
asciilifeform: no need to keep track of ips, and to marry the notion of 'origin address'
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't be against this being implemented in udp in any case.
mircea_popescu: for that matter i envisage most people using this on multiple ips
mircea_popescu: providing he finds your ip (which i doubt), you can just switch it too.
mircea_popescu: i can appreciate the purity of your vision, but i'd rather have this work on current hardware. what else is there ?
mircea_popescu: "The enemy can diddle IP any way he likes," << sure, but that's why salt is there.
assbot: [OPEN] A better ircd [RFC] pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1DcuMuK )
mircea_popescu: anyway, trilema back, which comment or what ?
BingoBoingo: Well, if captured I am ready to be absolutely worthless.
mircea_popescu: " that when wot is taken seriously by intelligent and resourceful enemies, it will be rather late." << so how late is it /
asciilifeform: where he got this notion - he did not say.
assbot: Logged on 06-01-2015 00:06:29; RagnarDanneskjol: was just telling ASCII that I understand nano is on vacay for a few days, also altgribble is avail for bcauth but not gpg
asciilifeform: so far just this tidbit, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-01-2015#966268 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: anyone learn the fate of nanotube yet ? <<< no. i was waiting for some kind of logs to surface, but seems nothing.
mircea_popescu: mike_c: and it is not unusual for it to catch humans << on the plus side, i get about 10-20 pieces of spam a day, which are pretty much all handcranked. the attepts are well in the 1000s/hr. on the - side, occasionally people complain about having to redo a comment / having lost a comment in the depths.
asciilifeform just got back to his cockpit actually, a few hrs ago
mircea_popescu: anyway, this is convenient because i didn't really feel like writing reports tonight, and asciilifeform still's not sent me his mail, so
mircea_popescu: not to mention the poor showling last year.
mircea_popescu: <mike_c> Microsoft shut down their captcha service, which was causing that problem on the eulorum wiki. << YOUR PAIN IS YOUR OWN PUNISHMENT
asciilifeform: it's a thing that's been crying to have itself done for a good twenty years.
decimation: he wants to provide us with his own special brand of discipline free of charge
mircea_popescu: <ascii_modem> that or he read the log and picked the parts he liked << i dunno where i stole it from tbh.
decimation: mircea_popescu: apparently mr. ddos took your 'unreliable' remarks personally
mircea_popescu: anyways, cool to be back to normal.
decimation: asciilifeform: more evidence that your wot-router idea is needed, at any rate.
asciilifeform: 'hello fellow dog, you must also be a dog for every living thing is a dog; what kind of dog are you'
asciilifeform feels mind utterly boggled at this offer of 'help' of the 'have you tried plugging it in' variety.
mircea_popescu: so far you're not doing much to change that.
mircea_popescu: the parcimonious approach is to regard you as grossly unqualified to comment on that topic.
svetlana: I am from another channel where wc- was complaining about the issue. Couldn't suggest anything but not perceiving cloak as the solution, to him.
asciilifeform: aha, suggestion is that we occupy ourselves with a permanent game of whack-a-mole.
svetlana: If the details that you have are not sufficient (which is somewhat often the case), we have to apply discretion and judgment to figure out who it is (before +i, it might make sense to use +r and see if it makes things stop).
asciilifeform: but they reply to the spoofed address (victim's) rather than attacker's.
asciilifeform: these reply with N bytes for each spoofed byte sent, hence term 'amplification'
asciilifeform: svetlana: perhaps you know it under another name. attacker sends spoofed packets to a series of machines, usually misconfigured routers and embedded systems of other kinds
BingoBoingo: routers, servers, the occasional 10 kilo wordpress sites
asciilifeform: svetlana: not familiar with term 'amplification attack' ?
svetlana: Instead, get affected people to check their router logs and get more details about the attack.
asciilifeform: what is the suggested solution (other than '+i' which was discussed at one point, bitter pill)
svetlana: I might suggest not using cloaks as the solution here. Using cidr entries in access list, and /cs why, it's quite trivial to look through them. We don't want to "teach" whoever is ddosing here that -- he'd keep doing his thing.
kakobrekla: [02:25:49] <svetlana> it is rather trivial to look through cloaks (chanserv can, and anyone can query chanserv with various cidrs and ask whether people match).
kakobrekla: [02:23:50] <svetlana> cloaking is NOT the solution to the problem.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: your site appears to be down
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo will enjoy my comment on trilema then (when that site is back...)
BingoBoingo: Fuck it IRC is too advanced to be safe. We need to do baudot over ULF. 10 MW minimum to get voice.
BingoBoingo: Well, at least I published the thing so it will be visible eventually.
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: You are quoted again for who knows how many words this time.
BingoBoingo: Does anyone know if https://blockchain.info/address/1JoktQJhCzuCQkt3GnQ8Xddcq4mUgNyXEa is the Bitstamp cold address?