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mircea_popescu: watch how in a few short months it won't be possible to buy bitcoin at any price.
mircea_popescu: tl;dr : this won't end well.
mircea_popescu: something tells me they have nfi how to write a term sheet, and there's about 50-50 odds of the financer backing out.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla so they can "cover" by being bought.
BingoBoingo: Mebbe they think legal shitstorm is to their benefit for filing bankruptcy?
mike_c: they should come to NYC. very bitcoin friendly. just drop all your coins off at lawsky's office on the way into town.
kakobrekla: i dont think so but dont have the details.
mike_c: interesting. they must be retaining UK incorporation, no? I would think it would be legal shitstorm otherwise.
kakobrekla: btw bitstamp is moving operations to us (prolly sf). ☟︎
mircea_popescu: by the way, requiem for a dream. good film.
asciilifeform reread last night's thread, and grasped mircea_popescu deniable-transmissions scheme.
kakobrekla: as safe as their hot wallet
asciilifeform: 'got fish? nope, this is the meat counter. fish is what they don't have at the fish counter.'
mircea_popescu: when are they bringing the fractional reserve back up ?
mircea_popescu: "Keep up the good work!"
assbot: Our temporary website didn’t feel quite like home - so we gave it a little refresh while we work on restoring full services.
saifedean: hai there, mp, thanks for the voice
mircea_popescu: "But what of it? How does this effect you? Well, it effects" affects you. afect is another name for sentiment. to affect is to cause an effect upon something. to effect, confusingly enough, is to cause the execution of something. so, you effect legislation, and that legislation affects people.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell pete_dushenski "Their habitual attacks on forums is usually" << are.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the interesting thing is that usg has not succeeded in entirely displacing the native, ethnic 'lotteries'
mircea_popescu: except... there was that ALREADY carved there. easily 50 years old.
mircea_popescu: and i have this distinct memory of a kid being pissed of at some chick, and going to carve "X is a whore" in the wall
mircea_popescu: i went to school in this huge, what you'd call super-preppy thing.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> i'm told that there is - somewhat lower-tech - traditional 'black on black' sc4mz0r1ng - 'numbers games' run in back alleys, etc. << Replaced by same game with different operator "Lottery"
mircea_popescu: probably on the same damned exact stones.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah. the shit run by jews in 1935.
asciilifeform: i'm told that there is - somewhat lower-tech - traditional 'black on black' sc4mz0r1ng - 'numbers games' run in back alleys, etc.
mircea_popescu: "black on black violence in the ghetto is so and so!!1". fine. and white on white scamming in bitcoin is how ?
thestringpuller: mir-dizzle to the popes-rizzle
mircea_popescu: anyway, i have no problem with dudes going "oh, blacks do all teh crime!!!" if that's what they believe, and start running off stats about it. big whoop. but it's funny how nobody happens to fucking noticing the OTHER stats.
mircea_popescu: in my spare time.
thestringpuller: gotta love pasty white girls who are afraid of the sun like vampires tho ;)
thestringpuller: hahaha! i thought only black people used "pasty white person" phrasing
thestringpuller: pretty sure he's taking bitpay cock up da butt knowing the implications
mircea_popescu: tis true.
mircea_popescu: what atlantic really means is "why are there so few black scammers in bitcoin, because that's all we know about anyway". and the reason couldn't possibly be "because they're just more honest than whitey"
BingoBoingo: pete suggested: "Maybe they are better at keeping it on the down low".
assbot: Why Are So Few Black People Using Bitcoin? - The Atlantic ... ( http://bit.ly/1428soe )
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: The atlantic doesn't know you exist http://t.co/uHfcEi8KRg
mircea_popescu: whodda thought, you know, that NOT invoving an us company is better.
mircea_popescu: but i see whatcha mean. "not politically favoured, so not as well ironed out, so harder to use"
mircea_popescu: jurov well ok, by and large for any expectation it won't be possible to make "all" work. because anyone can anything, and well...
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i guess that works out then, prolly a customer.
jurov: also, email clients. it was *not* possible to make all them work with self-signed cert
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Bitstamp's line is the 4th and they didn't announce before then. so if it was earlier still time for customers to get fucked pertending deposit addressses are theirs.
jurov: it annoys me to no end when i install self-signed cert and even if i try to distribute it between machines, some dam curl-like tool breaks
mircea_popescu: as opposed to announcement thereof ?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo wasn't the actual breach prior to the 4th ?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> now is the theory here that what, the haxxor is using on bitbet the same address that nejc was using on bitbet prior to the "hack" ? because why ? << I don't see any new bets after the 4th. COuld just be a derp who wanted to "win" to his Bitstamp deposit address?
jurov: i am not talking about browser, that's lost cause
mircea_popescu: is this minority behaviour ?
mircea_popescu: jurov my browser allows me to save cert for later ?
jurov: i don't see how every time i'm accessing anything via https/smtps i'm going to think whether this is the right cert
jurov: i'm looking forward how are they going to solve it in libressl, if ever
mircea_popescu: would work for a bank, wouldn't work for a newspaper sort of thing ?
mircea_popescu: jurov so you mean, it only works for sessions where the user knows/trusts the source, as opposed to whatever, random drive-by publishing ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they also managed this situation where all the shit online carries a "5000 derps that don't really exist LIKE THIS"
jurov: i don't contest that
asciilifeform: some of the newer browsers, iirc, won't even give him the option of swallowing
asciilifeform: yes, usg succeeded in setting up the situation where every luserplebe's browser will ring bells, flash lights, if a cert didn't come with a hitler signature
jurov: so they are not "almost zero cost"
kakobrekla: yes they are so cause browsers.
jurov: and even they they are PITA
mircea_popescu: IT CAN NOT BE TERRORISM!!!
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mircea_popescu: check this out : http://www.westernjournalism.com/breaking-12-killed-french-islamic-terror-attack-real-story/
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: this is because the browsers are usg projects.
kakobrekla: unfortunately things people call browsers dont like to swallow self signed.
asciilifeform: the traditional party line is 'oh noez you'll be mitm-ed if your browser doesn't refuse self-signed'
mircea_popescu: jurov im curious to hear the self signed cert reasoning tbh.
asciilifeform: in case anyone needs to be reminded of this - ssl remains a crock of shit - as in, the entire protocol stack is porous and comically maldesigned
mircea_popescu: obviously "one has no way of knowing" if a self signed cert is good. but if there's also a .asc on the server... i'd say it's a damned sight better than "Verizon certifies"
asciilifeform: and if a 'luser' won't read or can't remember the genuine fingerprint, and won't write it down, whatever - he has no business owning computer
asciilifeform: elementarily true
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform is what i thought too.
asciilifeform: if using the ssl crock of shit at all, being your own signing authority (instead of swallowing the master key bullshit and extortionary fees of the 'authorities') is the only way to go
jurov: lol that's just keyfart
mircea_popescu: are they bad ?
jurov: ncfaci meant the bits where he promoted self-signed certs
mircea_popescu: jurov: lots of derp tho << i kinda liked his piece tbh.
mircea_popescu: it's like making dogs blind to your fear by shaking uncontrollably.
mircea_popescu: as if irrelevance can ever be averted by this sort of thing.
mircea_popescu: TF can now claim relevance and victory by conceding practically every principle ever held dear in return for the privilege of rubber-stamping Google's initiative."
mircea_popescu: "The IETF, obviously fearing irrelevance, hastily "discovered" that the HTTP/1.1 protocol needed an update, and tasked a working group with preparing it on an unrealistically short schedule. This ruled out any basis for the new HTTP/2.0 other than the SPDY protocol. With only the most hideous of SPDY's warts removed, and all other attempts at improvement rejected as "not in scope," "too late," or "no consensus," the IE
mircea_popescu: who the fuck is Taylor Swift
mircea_popescu: nubbins`: it just pulls news stories from other websites and does blind word replacement on the articles, to make them seem original <<< there's a million of these.
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mircea_popescu: fluffypony links for you there, as it happens.
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mircea_popescu: fluffypony but the logs!
mod6: tie them to the radiator and grape them in the mouth
mircea_popescu: hot damn i hope they go through with it
mircea_popescu: ahhh the fact reddit is so in favour of this hardfork business is so great :D
mircea_popescu: is this the french commie ?
asciilifeform: perhaps i ought to attend spam school.
asciilifeform: if i knew how to earn bread without leaving home, i would
thestringpuller: sorry to hear you got the flu asciilifeform
mircea_popescu: now is the theory here that what, the haxxor is using on bitbet the same address that nejc was using on bitbet prior to the "hack" ? because why ?
mircea_popescu: HOWEVER. one of those addresses is http://bitbet.us/stats/1QJRfCctSz7BLriE7CiF5LefBXJgm6Jcax/
mircea_popescu: nejc/bitstamp crew allege that hacker somehow got into their system, stole privkeys for their addresses, AND THEN deleted their copies. magically. they were all online or something, who knows.