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TomServo: thestringpuller: thanks
TomServo: ben_vulpes: was it portland where they were fining people for catching rainwater?
assbot: Deep Questions Arise Over Portland's Corporate Water Takeover ... ( http://bit.ly/1DqrkNf )
ben_vulpes: http://truth-out.org/news/item/28390-deep-questions-arise-over-portland-s-corporate-water-takeover << rot in the local socialist paradise begins to creep to the surface
Mashuri: Thanks for the !up but I'm just lurking. I have a WoT account if needed for later. :)
thestringpuller: mike_c: Jan. 23rd we're getting there.
Mashuri: Hi Tom
TomServo: I have said publicly that no, this wasn't @MtGox 2.0 and you aren't @MagicalTux 2.0
assbot: Logged on 07-01-2015 19:06:06; kakobrekla: btw bitstamp is moving operations to us (prolly sf).
assbot: Working alongside the team from San Francisco, progress towards redeployment is strong. Huge thank you to for your confidence and patience.
assbot: We are fully rebuilding our systems from the ground up so that customers can use /Bitstamp with full confidence and trust.
mod6: Thanks for calling that to our attention.
mod6: cazalla: The Bitcoin Foundation will commit to publishing a "follow along at home install guide" with the first the signed first release.
cazalla: apologies for the diarrheatic driblee. back to bed, needed that water
thestringpuller: where you try to stay up all night
thestringpuller: its like those slumber parties
asciilifeform: (they appear to consist largely of the same two or three things, with slight variations)
asciilifeform noticed recently that there are suspiciously many claimed 'plug in replacements' for truecrypt bouncing around
asciilifeform: !s tc-play
mod6: If anyone wants to write a more user-friendly how-to as opposed to what I have already written, by all means!
mod6: but currently, that's what we're testing on. i have an medium ec2 instance im testing on, and a few other smaller vm's.
mod6: i left that out of the guide as I don't wish to presume which environment it should be built on.
mod6: you basically need to do these for that:
mod6: I've walked through that guide with a guy locally here, and there are a few minor changes that I need to make to it this month. I'll get to it when I can, but mostly, it's exactly what you need. Aside from installing the dependancies.
asciilifeform still finds the image peculiar, of nanotube having advanced warning of his 'vacation'
mod6: I have written a guide on how to patch the reference implementation. is that one too complex?
mod6: i was just looking back at that myself ben_vulpes
ben_vulpes: <cazalla> [] may i recommend a step by step tutorial for the borderline retarded such as myself who have the resources but not the know how to run it, provide a step by step diy and it will grow << grand idea
mircea_popescu: unsung heroes, that's exactly it. "if the bot weren't down nobody would have noticed".
mircea_popescu: yeah, if the bot weren't down nobody would have noticed.
asciilifeform: assuming 'vacation' - at least he pulled the pin, rather than allowed the motherland to pass into enemy hands
kakobrekla: if the bot werent down nobody would have noticed
mircea_popescu: if anyone asks me, i'd rather see as few of these vacations as possible.
mircea_popescu: but, fair warning to the ones still left inside the beast : nano, prior to his vacation, was a law abiding economy teacher, a bright kid and a very loyal and honorable fellow all around. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: if there's multiples lying becomes that more difficult and less valuable anyway.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: just need to trust the maintainers of the gatekeepers into the WoT
mircea_popescu: maybe if it convincingly performs for a while the two wots can be bridged later on (how such a thing could be done in principle has been discussed a few times) and that'll be a great step towards de facto decentralization with central servers and that's that.
mircea_popescu: gribble is only relevant in this channel by specific inclusion from assbot. once it lost that, it lost it.
TomServo: How that plays out.
mircea_popescu shrugs. either way, that pie's cooked.
asciilifeform: aha, he will be 'on vacation' until shows up rolled in a cage through wash.,d.c streets.
mircea_popescu: i don't know that guy is anybody, outside of social engineering everyone. he doesn't have a rating from nano, the notion they know each other is improbable on the face, and if in fact this were a job you'd fully expect a bunch of unknowns talking authoritatively in such manner.
asciilifeform hasn't the faintest notion of this being true or false
asciilifeform: (that nanotube went off on vacation, and spoke to him thus)
mircea_popescu: what was that ?
undata: clearly the guy had to be stopped... he was running an irc channel!
mircea_popescu: what with all the stuff being build atop it and so on.
mircea_popescu: im pretty sure that in realpolitik terms this was the more important use of gribble.
mike_c: so.. this is when assbot officially takes over the world then.
TomServo: folks in otc are claiming it's a planned absence, I haven't seen anything specific though.
mike_c: well, you took a few weeks off and we still trust you
mircea_popescu: well... perhaps reasonable's not the right word. safe.
mircea_popescu: yes, nano's not been heard from, the only reasonable assumption is something asciilifeform'd say.
mircea_popescu: <mike_c> can't wait for gribble to come home. << i dun think gribble is coming back. if it were, i wouldn't trust it.
undata: I find I have more alertness throughout the day without
undata: I actually just gave the stuff up (again)
TomServo: I don't think that'll happen soon enough. Maybe a modified ircd with a bolted on gribble in the meantime?
undata read the gossipd logs; maybe that will have to save us
thestringpuller: altgribble but kako doesn't use that
undata: is there an alternate auth route?
mike_c: can't wait for gribble to come home.
TomServo: sorry, missed that
mike_c: except he can't talk
undata: :) thanks
mike_c: given irdial's apparent hatred of kyc it seems like this is a good place to be.
assbot: Daniel P. Barron on Twitter: "@Beautyon_ Unless you're in the #WebOfTrust, you aren't a "real person." It doesn't matter what your "needs" are. http://t.co/zu7UA4VkBd" ... ( http://bit.ly/1yFD5NV )
danielpbarron: https://twitter.com/danielpbarron/statuses/514417197108957184 << this is the last thing i tweeted at him before he blocked me
thestringpuller: ben_vulpes: would like that idea
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron couldn't have been for that reason, i recall the guy following me on twitter, back before the antonoderp murder.
mircea_popescu: make a container or w/e they call it, just have people run it.
danielpbarron: irdial, lol you block me for telling you about this place and now here you are!
TomServo: Is there a preferred platform?
mircea_popescu: not only will IT grow, but the diy capabilities of the right people will grow, which is significantly more valuable.
assbot: Beautyon (@Beautyon_) | Twitter ... ( http://bit.ly/1IvrIIc )
TomServo: irdial: https://twitter.com/beautyon_ that you?
mircea_popescu: cazalla: may i recommend a step by step tutorial for the borderline retarded such as myself who have the resources but not the know how to run it, provide a step by step diy and it will grow << he has a point there, ben & mod6
thestringpuller: whoa mircea_popescu is from the future
TomServo: Sure - with you there, it just seems incredibly hard to really 'prove' intent to leave.
mircea_popescu: what, obama strengthened the border ? gimme a break.
mircea_popescu: i had no problem getting romania's like i dunno, 3rd ? 10 year visa fifteen years ago when i actually wanted one. notwithstanding that romania was you know, a sort of ukraine in 2025, and notwithstanding that bush was in charge.
mircea_popescu: now, it's all fine and dandy to all agree on how teh us is the empire of evil. however, the notion that they'd err on the side of not letting anyone in is plain ridoinculous.
mircea_popescu: the uncomfortable reality that he has neither is obviously something he's not willing to confront, and so it has to be about how bad teh us customs & immigration is.
mircea_popescu: it is customarily shown by a) substantial assets and b) family ties.
mircea_popescu: that's always been there, for foreigners, which people who renounce a citizenship become.
TomServo: Pretty minor gripe but, "under a regulation that requires he prove his intent to depart the U.S." - how does one prove that?
mircea_popescu: this guy was never sober. literally. you know what i mean, that drunk functionality of the hardcore ukrainian ?
mircea_popescu: so when i first landed here i kept a hotel room for about a week. my across the hall neighbour was this ukrainian dude. we met in the elevator and well, at the time the ukr stuff was just blowing up and so i was curious, and he was as happy as anything to speak to someone... wise.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform lemme tell you a story that will illustrate this point.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform people aren't as fixated on things anglos are fixated on here.
thestringpuller: Perhaps the movie about asciilifeform and young buck thestringpuller teaming up to sell BTC as gangstas runnin the street will become a reality
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller doing anything out of the ordinary carries a higher sentence than everything else in there, you've not noticed yet ?
asciilifeform: what does that buy, a sack of rice and a monk's cell somewhere in a boiler room ?
mircea_popescu: you know, the original somethingawful/buttcoin threads about how bitcoiners are mentally retarded didn't come out of pure malice. they came out of the simple fact of the matter : the early people involved are struggling with severe mental disabilities.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: so apparently being caught selling too many BTC here in the states carries a higher sentence than dealing drugs
mircea_popescu: i dunno that there's anything but comic relief in keeping track of ver's activities.
mircea_popescu: except he did that at a time when they were worth cents to the dollar, and they're long gone.
mircea_popescu: also, the passports in question don't ever cost that much. he's pulling a kakobrekla's car trick on the value of bitcoin that could have been. by the same measure, his donated hundreds of millions of dollars to the scam foundation.
asciilifeform: retarded, sure. just wondered if there was some actual plus to the st kitts thing. because i distinctly recall that 'passports of convenience' are mostly good as wall decorations and nothing more.
mircea_popescu: would have been enough for the rest of his life.
mircea_popescu: for the record, for the unassuming individual capable of normal socialisation (ie, score a gf if one wants a gf) about 1k usd a year is plenty in argentina.