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mircea_popescu: not really my cup, but then again we can't all gaggle in the same spots.
mod6: Beautiful land out there. At least, to me anyway.
mod6: Yeah, the modern city/area of Vail is just north of where the historical ranch is located.
mod6: if Vail, AZ (the city/surrounding area) is named after him, I used to live right by there.
mircea_popescu: this one, however... this one succeeded.
mircea_popescu: it's very interesting to me from an anthropological pov, because you see, at the time everything was "empire", from film studios to pond shops.
mircea_popescu: probably the source of all the cowboy and indian stories. and, notably, the first ranch where the queen bee woman actually settled down on the premises.
mircea_popescu: anyway, "In its heyday, Empire Ranch was one of the largest in Arizona, with a range spanning over 180 miles, and its owner, Walter L. Vail, was an important figure in the establishment of southern Arizona's cattle industry."
mircea_popescu: i tell you, i look at those guys, i kinda wanna be friends.
mod6: americans today: http://i.ytimg.com/vi/fzVnpapHaX4/maxresdefault.jpg
kakobrekla: hence the land of opportunity.
kakobrekla: that only allows for up to 2gb of css.
joecool: kakobrekla: aw man you mean they didn't choose godaddy shared hosting?
mircea_popescu: i'm paying 2btc (once) in return for a single btc stolen from bitstamp's aws cloud after today. comes with a signed certificate. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: well, let's verify this most secure computer environments claim.
kakobrekla: * Bitstamp is now running on Amazon’s world-class AWS cloud infrastructure, architected to be one of the most secure and reliable cloud computing environments available.
kakobrekla: We are happy to announce that we are back open for business
mircea_popescu: how does that work ?
ben_vulpes: neat trick, that
ben_vulpes: actually thestringpuller you can use docker to compile c on whatever and ship the resulting binary to the raspi
mircea_popescu: apparently bitcoin isn't half as revolutionary as we had thought. internet scammers had the exact same problems long prior.
mircea_popescu: "You can't tell them anything that will change their minds. You have to show them that money can be made online by actually doing it yourself. Don't be influenced by the nay-sayers, just prove them wrong."
mircea_popescu: "What do you tell family when they say IM is a scam?
mircea_popescu: qualified enough then!
Apocalyptic: I don't think so, not qualified nor time for it
mircea_popescu: can you implement the deedbot spec ?
Apocalyptic: in the bitcoin space not much, just keeping track
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, what are you doing these days ?
mircea_popescu: no, in reference to some derp that implemented the first version and made an utter mess of it.
Apocalyptic: "molokization" // in reference to Moloch ?
mircea_popescu: for that matter, if i find out the molokization of deedbot v2.0 actually has anything to do with your meddling, i'll negrate you too.
mircea_popescu: you're not welcome to keep pestering people in pms, and deedbot will be reimplemented for the third time.
mircea_popescu: punkman is off the deedbot project after the horrid failure of the past month, and i've only not neg rated him yet because gribblewas off.
mircea_popescu: RagnarDanneskjol no, it is not going in the right direction.
mircea_popescu: where they print 3d natural satellites.
kakobrekla: as the new bitstamp advisor?
mircea_popescu: i hope hje's partenering with kenna to start a moon printing program
mircea_popescu: lmao tux still exists ?
assbot: MagicalTux comments on [Daily Discussion] Thursday, January 08, 2015 ... ( http://bit.ly/1w5WJvN )
kakobrekla: karpeles saves the day https://np.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/2rphsb/daily_discussion_thursday_january_08_2015/cnjk2j7?context=3
mircea_popescu: so what is all this leap second y2k v2.0 stuff lol
gribble: BTC-E BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 284.749, Best ask: 284.75, Bid-ask spread: 0.00100, Last trade: 284.749, 24 hour volume: 6868.74826, 24 hour low: 277.10599, 24 hour high: 289.0, 24 hour vwap: 283.052995
gribble: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market <market>|all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Bitstamp. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure the (1 more message)
gribble: Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
gribble: What do you think I am, a shell?
thestringpuller: jurov is still the coolest slovenian of all
davout: i'm the richest of my living rool!11
adlai: and i'm among the 50 richest people from my army unit
davout: Merlak, 28, and his colleague Nejc Kodric, 25, both computer experts, founded Bitstamp in 2011. According to the Slovenian media the two had earned about 23 million euros ($27.2 million) from the enterprise which places them among the 50 richest Slovenians.
assbot: Bitcoin exchange Bitstamp says to resume trading on Friday| Reuters ... ( http://bit.ly/17qrw1Q )
adlai: yes this is a document, it has been published, there are no risks because nothing is for sale yet
jurov: "The Core Developers or other programmers could propose amendments to the Bitcoin Network’s protocols and software that, if accepted and authorized by the Bitcoin Network’s community, could adversely affect an investment in the Shares." huehue
jurov: http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1579346/000119312514457552/d721187ds1a.htm#toc721187_4 << twinklevoss filing, part "risks"
adlai: this is OK, when they attain self-awareness we should start worrying
jurov: he's looking forward to the day someone does DPA on his brain
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ... gmaxwell aware enough to notice [one of] trezor holes. << the differential power thing is plain as daylight to anyone who has seen the published schematic.
thestringpuller: you make a great point. just have to word the bet correctly.
davout: srsly, that could be one of the very few bets to be automatically solvable
thestringpuller: A historic event for the ages.
thestringpuller: It would be interesting to see a blockchain war.
davout: the same source that makes us all agree on who owns which coins
davout: i dunno lol, i'm just saying you don't need an intermediary to source the resolution data, the data is by definition public, right?
thestringpuller: but who would do that?
thestringpuller: you want someone at bitbet to count blocks manually?
davout: why would you need bc.info to count blocks and count hashes?
thestringpuller: how do you resolve? blockchain.info I personally wouldn't trust as a resolution source
thestringpuller: that might work too
assbot: Logged on 09-01-2015 09:00:04; davout: i'd word the bet "there exists a block > 1m, building on main net, with block index <= ARBITRARY_TRESHOLD , that gets more than 2016 confirmations, in less than a month"
thestringpuller: davout: yea I don't know how to word it. i know how to bet on exchanges going down.
[]bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Light Sweet Crude Oil (WTI) to drop under $40 before Mar 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/1096/ Odds: 45(Y):55(N) by coin, 47(Y):53(N) by weight. Total bet: 2.35388047 BTC. Current weight: 92,212.
mircea_popescu: well, tomorrow's thing. laters all.
punkman: seems like it was Pieter Wuille's thing at first
punkman: so they'll stick their noses in many places
punkman: probably someone else started it, they are trying to be relevant by doing "core" development now
mircea_popescu: so they made it for the vc backed firm by recycling some older stuffs ?
fluffypony: I'll bbiab, have to go shopping
punkman: I think that lib predates blockstream
fluffypony: but that's the bulk there
mircea_popescu: did blockstream actually publish the libsecp256k1 ?
mircea_popescu: https://github.com/polarssl/polarssl/blob/development/include/polarssl/ecdsa.h that it ?
fluffypony: lemme run a slocount on them
fluffypony: the ecp functions and the ecp curves are ~3400 lines of code
mircea_popescu: i mean, tests, sure, provable code, sure, random tests, sure.
mircea_popescu: but yes openssl is warty. especially for this use. and heck, more tests... never hurt.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i very much doubt nullc actually has any idea as to what's going on, apart from being in the room when it was explained and now typing words on reddit. and i doubt wuille actually did anything deliberately nefarious there.
mircea_popescu: so if you had to guess, how many previously innocent reddit read your comment and figured "hmm... there's something here" ?
mircea_popescu: but i do respect the sort of idiot that will actually go in there and do that sort of thing.
fluffypony: I applaud the test coverage, and I do agree that OpenSSL is shitty, but I don't understand the logic in writing from scratch
mircea_popescu: you know, i despise reddit, and that thing's a fine example, like are many others.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony that you in there, pointing out gmaxwell's idiocy ?
assbot: nullc comments on On why 0.10's release notes say "we have reason to believe that libsecp256k1 is better tested and more thoroughly reviewed than the implementation in OpenSSL" ... ( http://bit.ly/1AzJuem )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2rrxq7/on_why_010s_release_notes_say_we_have_reason_to/cnipifq << gmaxwell aware enough to notice [one of] trezor holes.
assbot: On why 0.10's release notes say "we have reason to believe that libsecp256k1 is better tested and more thoroughly reviewed than the implementation in OpenSSL" : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1BThrna )
davout: yeah, but if it manages 2016 confs in a month it has at least half the hashpower
davout: i think it missed the timeframe bit amirite
mircea_popescu: davout there exists something like that already, "gavin's orphan chain won't die before 50 block long"
scoopbot: New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/heres-part-n-of-our-endless-saga-aptly-titled-the-people-know-shit-or-alternatively-nothings-dumber-than-the-voice-in-the-crowd/
davout: there's also the work part
cazalla: My apologies to any and all annoyed by my drunken spamming of the channel last night..
davout: mircea_popescu: defined by the first block's hash