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assbot: Logged on 07-01-2015 04:41:46; asciilifeform: naggum had a piece where he confessed
to
thinking of 'open source' as a weapon, purpose-built for
the destruction of a particular evil (microshit)
mircea_popescu: and an argument
that hitler marginalized antonescu is at best bizarre.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but listen. just because
the
tiny nation of romania made
the famine at leningrad possible doth not mean romania was an IMPORTANT player in ww2.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller more like, proving
that he can STILL do it.
thestringpuller: This is about Gavin proving he can hijack
the Bitcoin network
to whomever his handler may be.
thestringpuller: this has nothing
to do with
the block size anymore does it?
mircea_popescu: check out
the many ways you can lose "intellectual battles" lol.
mircea_popescu: "MP def lost
the intellectual battle by
the brag of wealth as his last effort
to win."
mircea_popescu: the great gift of satoshi is exactly
that : we finally have a
tool whereby idiots can only hurt
themselves.
ben_vulpes: it's not really an argument at
this point.
mircea_popescu: liberia fucking changes its labor laws
to accomodate bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: the sec changes its procedures
to accomodate my dictates.
mircea_popescu: we don't change for
the fucking world.
the world changes. anything and everything.
mircea_popescu: how about
the idea is
that bitcoin adoption means OTHER PEOPLE AND
THINGS CHANGE ?
mircea_popescu: and for
that matter c)
there's already precedent,
the "poor users" who wanted
to play but didn't want
to pay
tx fees were given free stuff before.
mircea_popescu: because a) poor workers,
they need it and b) not agreeing would be being against expanded usage of bitcoin
mircea_popescu: so what's next, if
this somehow succeeds ?
two years from now, liberia uses bitcoin as nat'l currency, suddenly
the workers go on strike, ask for double salaries. govt asks gavin
to fork btc
to give
them an extra one-off five million btc
to pay
the workers.
ben_vulpes: "useful fool" is a phrase asciilifeform's
to describe
the
type
thestringpuller: Like did men in black suits just show up and
tell him "this is how it's gonna be"
mircea_popescu: - Support for
the fork should be overwhelming. If 95% of
the users agree with
the fork,
the 5%
that don't are pretty much forced
to participate. Sure,
they can keep running
the non-forked version, but coins on
that chain will be unlikely
to keep
their value."
mircea_popescu: "I don't
think a hard fork would be very difficult, but only if
the following
two points are
taken into account:
ben_vulpes: i guess it works if your goal is
to suck
the conqueror's cocks.
ben_vulpes: does waiting on apparent victory
to ally ever work out?
thestringpuller: the alert keys are currently only held by gavin and
theymos?
mircea_popescu: what difference does identity make ?! ANONIMITY IS
THE SOLUTION!
mircea_popescu: "If Popescu chooses
to wage war in fragmented environment and can demonstrate some potential
to come out victorious I'll likely put my resources behind his efforts.
This exclusively because whatever his motivations might be, his basic end goal and my own seem
to align."
undata: and for
those
that don't get it,
they've just been
told not
to by
their
televised
tribe
undata: there's
that and also, I
think
the american system demonstrates just how obedient
the average person is
cazalla: turns out
the black guy of
that movie died 13 years ago.. sorry
to be such a debbie downer
mircea_popescu: it's so funny how
the arguments in favour of inflation go with
the "general public"
mircea_popescu: "If you are worrying about
the
time when 20MB per block is filled, you are worrying
that bitcoin will have 20x more
transactions, an increase from
the currently
throttle of approx 6 per second
to around 120 per second. If you are worrying
that bitcoin will have 20x more
transactions,
then you are worrying about it having many more users."
ben_vulpes imagines watching
this flick with a
typical progre
mircea_popescu: references
to formal definitions as "by
the very definition" are shaky.
mircea_popescu: pgp seems
to be living a nice 2nd youth
these days
tho
mircea_popescu: cazalla if it does
translate into
traffic you'll see it as a worsening of
the demographic quality lol.
cazalla: mircea_popescu, we'll see how much of
their derping
translate into
traffic..
that
thread is 2nd most popular on bitcointalk
today according
to blockchained.com
undata: it only
took a few encounters with
that crowd
to decide otherwise
undata: when I was younger I
thought Ron Paul was
the way
mircea_popescu: undata right. "men with guns ? wheee
they came
to play!"
undata: mircea_popescu: some, most aren't intelligent enough
to grasp it at a surface level
mircea_popescu: apparently
the libertards are actually retarded enough
to have misapprehended bitcoin as some sort of ally for
their stuff.
thestringpuller: one day future asciilifeform will show up in a delorean
talking like Christopher Lloyd.
this is when my life will
truly begin.
ben_vulpes goes
to swap dishwasher and laundry machine loads
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "I don't perceive a smartphone's worth having. Much like an AK-47, if not for
the same reason." << i
think it's clearly stated. like an assault rifle, a smartphone's not worth having. not for
the same reason
tho, but nevertheless, not worth having.
ben_vulpes: i musta been putting
the wrong objects in
the wrong boxes
this whole
time.
mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> but
the dishwasher!? << it probably uses less water if you put less clothes in
ben_vulpes: i'll get
there eventually, asciilifeform
assbot: Logged on 10-01-2015 06:34:07; asciilifeform: re: rms and his oddities, i'd note
that quite a few (most?) folks would end up regarded as similarly odd, if
they somehow were set free
to do wtf
they pleased
ben_vulpes: ah, what's wrong with go,
thestringpuller?
ben_vulpes: thestringpuller: oh
tchyeah
that
thing's considered harmful.
thestringpuller: fucking bitpay with
their nodejs wallet-core-thingamafucker
ben_vulpes: raw
transaction api backport's not
totally
trivial.