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thestringpuller: What
the fuck happened
to ignorance of
the law is no excuse for breaking it.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron "This whole hard fork drama is part of
the bigger brain-damaged notion
that Bitcoin isn't about money." << you actuyally have an excellent point here.
thestringpuller: people are like "Yo he broke
the rules but didn't know. Don't punish him
too hard, just give him a warning."
thestringpuller: guess we still haven't left
the ages of people wanting
to play bitcoin banker
thestringpuller: it's like a secretary
telling me I need a heart
transplant because he saw it on
TV
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron almost as worse ? wtf is wrong with
these college grads!
mircea_popescu: people with no money expressing views asa
to how money works. because clearly...
they;'d know.
mircea_popescu: "Good permission-less distribution of coins is not possible without some inflation,
that's exactly what's happening. Only private and semi-private systems have all shares distributed
to stakeholders in one go, money don't work
that way, sorry."
danielpbarron: .@aantonop Being banned by Reddit is almost as worse as @rogerkver not being allowed in
the US
☟︎ assbot: I’ve now been unbanned from reddit.
The drama is over.
thestringpuller: i wonder if he'll make some kind of contact, "Yo guise, stop stirring up
the pot. You're making our hijacking job
too hard."
mircea_popescu: "i have
to
tell you miss lopez, you seem
to have caught
the egyptian flu."
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller i wonder if
there's many whores working out of
their car in sf.
thestringpuller: i read a story somewhere
that
there is a whole slew of entrepreneurs in SF
that are homeless
mircea_popescu: i
thought it was all
tshirts and how do you call
those african footwear
things ?
thestringpuller: maybe it's how hanbot put it, its "Due
to a horrible accident involving, perhaps, various radioactive equipment including a
twinkie"
thestringpuller: it's just mind boggling
these children in suits feel so entitled.
mircea_popescu: a good idea
that makes no money is a bit like a norwegian blue
that's pining for
the fjords. beautiful plumage...
thestringpuller: lets say "good idea
that's really bad idea, but is dressed up
to look like good idea somehow and fools people"
thestringpuller: it gets
this young people
thinking "Yo, if I have a good idea people will pay for me
to live, even if it makes no money"
thestringpuller: this is why I
think
the ycombinator "seed funding"
thing is a bit non-sensical.
thestringpuller: perhaps. reddit does have a ridiculously hard
time paying
the bills with
their own money.
thestringpuller: well reddit wants more users without having
to pay for anything
mircea_popescu: (accurately, of course, means nothing objective. accurately in
this context strictly means "so nobody gets a full A half
the
time". because you're looking for flaws, not
to prop self esteem.)
mircea_popescu: don't do
that, all 30 kids are undistinguishable. up until, of course,
they run against feynman's nature,
that which can't be fooled.
mircea_popescu: out of 30 kids, 27 will fucking riot, 3 will buckle down and do fucking homework.
that
they don't strictly have
to do.
mircea_popescu: experiment can be carried out in absolutely any class. start marking
the papers accurately.
mircea_popescu: reddit has
to shadowban users because spam. bitcoin-assets does not. because wot works and "Feedback" doesn't ? awww, who knew.
mircea_popescu: clemens, centuries ago. "i don't care what people say
that i don't know". duh.
mircea_popescu: ot, and even if I do not know
the name of
the angel, or his nationality either."
mircea_popescu: "Some people have
to have a world of evidence before
they can come anywhere in
the neighborhood of believing anything; but for me, when a man
tells me
that he has "seen
the engravings which are upon
the plates," and not only
that, but an angel was
there at
the
time, and saw him see
them, and probably
took his receipt for it, I am very far on
the road
to conviction, no matter whether I ever heard of
that man before or n
thestringpuller: "We want free
things. Make it all free! We don't want
to pay for nice
things! We are entitled
to
the world cause our parents
told us so!"
mircea_popescu: "so
they want signal and feedback
that's ok, we'll add some buttons and call
them feedback" herp.
decimation: perhaps
that's another good replacement phrase for "chronic kinglessness": "the people want for feedback"
thestringpuller: ;;later
tell hanbot how did you not have a stroke while in
the
trenches of super retardism?
mircea_popescu: "but people have a voice". orly ?
turns out people don't want a voice, especially not in a fucking void.
they really want signal and feedback more
than
they want voice.
mircea_popescu: obviously
that means it's not better, because
that's how it gets
to be cheaper.
mircea_popescu: this is why it's cheaper
to "publish" if you're
twitter
than if you're
the [classical] new york
times, and why
the current nyt is
twitter in another color scheme.
mircea_popescu: because it is in all
times and places cheaper
to NOT carry other people's actions in your mind
than
to do so.
mircea_popescu: it's by and large easier
to not give a shit.
that's why all divorces succeed, and all independence movements succeed, and why imperialism and colonialism and so on are all doomed.
decimation: it is
too bad
the french were
to fucktarded
to keep
their lands in north america. it would be interesting
to know
the history of
the Bourbon West
mircea_popescu: because "centralize all
the
things" was
the fashionable motto at
the
time of
the manifest destiny and so on.
decimation: yes,
the religious fanatics went
to war
to make
the government-stamped shackles
the fashion
mircea_popescu: "the civil war was an important fashion battle in
the manner of shackles
to be used"
mircea_popescu: not
the best ? perhaps. but a nude statement of unbestness is as useful as an aeroplane made out of air.
mircea_popescu: it exists naturally, because it provides for a need, and it is an actual social solution
to a social problem.
mircea_popescu: decimation
the much decried "penitentiary industrial system" doesn't exist because evil white aliens from alpha centauri opress
the world into doing it.
mircea_popescu: that's what
the "voter" is supposed
to be. but ... he isn't.
thestringpuller: it's fucking 4 c here while mircea_popescu gets
to chill in 32 c
mircea_popescu: these are very different sorts, and
the classical representation of man holds him
to be equally both.
mircea_popescu: some people enjoy
trying
to puzzle
this out. WHETHER it is one or
the other.
mircea_popescu: fundamentally, some people wish
to be
told WHAT
they did is right and WHAT is wrong. and perhaps why. perhaps. half
the
time maybe
they care.
decimation: "So
that’s my working hypothesis: it’s not merely
that politics is an epiphenomenon and
that deeper personal qualities account for what we call political polarization, but
that one specific dimension—our respective attitudes
toward personal responsibility—accounts for a huge proportion of
the polarization all by itself."
mircea_popescu: however,
the mechanisms
that ensured value actually moves with
the name
there aren't present here.
mircea_popescu: amusingly,
this "thing as its name" approach is very much empowered by legal abstractions such
the corporation,
mircea_popescu: people of course like
to pretend mysapce is a circumstance rather
than a fundamental.
mircea_popescu: but an imaginary "social media platform" where value is UGS but all work is somehow, magically owned by
the name, which is being bought and sold as *the
thing it stands for*... well ?
decimation: there is some 'backdoor' literature
that demonstrates
this point in
the us
mircea_popescu: once
that happens, people naturally start
to control
the work, and hierarchy forms, and value springs from it, and prosperity is everywhere.
mircea_popescu: contrairiwise,
the first step
towards not being quite so poor is "giving people control of
the fruits of
their own work", aka not
taxing
them 100% (what is social media but an experimental regime of 100%
tax ?)
mircea_popescu: unavoidable. you literally chose
to be poor,
that's strictly it.
mircea_popescu: having someone
to say "hey,
this is great" "omfg
that's fucking stupid" is
the very essence of economy. you can disagree with
them, or pick a different one, or create special methods for
their working or measuring or announcing or whatever, it's endless. but if you remove it altogether, creating essentially a flat surface instead of a 3d shape, you WILL be poorer.
mircea_popescu: that's pretty much
the wikipedia-side of
the web2.0 utopia (and it has nothingm
to do with o'reilly.)
decimation: what do you call feedback if it is disconnected from
the circuit?
mircea_popescu: "well if you all made
the same decision you'll be poor
too and
there wouldn't be a difference
to make us sad"
mircea_popescu: then
they have
the problem
that "google has so much money, we don't!" well... of course ?
mircea_popescu: decimation but
that's not feedback. how is it feedback ?
mircea_popescu: so
they have
to backport hierarchy into it under
the cover of darkness, so
to speak
decimation: actually,
they only get 'positive' feedback in
the sense
that
they have now edited X+1 articles
mircea_popescu: "everyone can edit it", because "nobody is here
to manage it" sounds great only on
the surface. but in essence, what it means is
that "nobody intelligent agrees
this is worth doing"
mircea_popescu: no. it's
the result of a bunch of stupid people without any sort of feedback or signal.
decimation: so in summary, wikipedia is
the result of a bunch of smart people without direction?
mircea_popescu: " i do agree with
the original statement
that
the particular way in which intellectual property is handled
today makes
the world richer rather
than poorer." << meant it exactly backwards. poorer rather
than richer.