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asciilifeform: does mircea_popescu ever wonder about the scarcity of code written by sane folks ?
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> whenever i hear about mircea_popescu's 'free men', i think of... chessboxing. << pfff. nonsense.
assbot: Logged on 21-01-2016 17:36:35; mircea_popescu: sooner or later free man version of alf will pop into existence.
asciilifeform: 'polymath' i suspect would describe most of the folks here. but the point i was trying to make is that in many ways certain aspects of mircea_popescu's picture in http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-01-2016#1379901 are intrinsically opposed ☝︎
asciilifeform: whenever i hear about mircea_popescu's 'free men', i think of... chessboxing. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: ./script.h: const_iterator pc2 = pc;
asciilifeform: why do you need two mircea_popescus.
asciilifeform: well, we already have a mircea_popescu
asciilifeform: yes, odin could re-arrange the atoms and form a fine dinner fit for mircea_popescu's table.
asciilifeform: '...neither Unix nor Windows _actually_ support either C or C++, but they manage to make them work, with downright incredible effort. if you look inside the libraries and see how a system call actually works and how much it differs from the C calling convention and usage, you'd be a fool not to revise your opinion. and _does_ an operating system that forces the programmer to check to see whether the operating system did what
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: init to -1 is classical unixism, sorta like initing pointers to null
asciilifeform: and as i described (and i think ben_vulpes did even earlier) the thing isn't ~actually~ multithreaded, in the sense of being able to evaluate multiple requests in parallel
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: approximately
asciilifeform wonders what moved mircea_popescu to try his hand at trbism
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> anyone seen this wonder http://dpaste.com/1JNBGCX ? << scary huh
assbot: Satoshi asciilifeform_add_verifyall_option/ ... ( http://bit.ly/1JkZeaQ )
asciilifeform: http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source?v=asciilifeform_add_verifyall_option
assbot: Logged on 21-01-2016 16:25:12; mircea_popescu: it's a by-word for capital-destroying "concerted efforts".
asciilifeform: l0l i can't wait till mircea_popescu discovers all of the 'wonders'
mod6: O_O
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: what are they making you for breakfast?
assbot: Logged on 18-01-2016 19:16:29; ascii_butugychag: i assume that everybody here has at least seen a page of talmud ?
assbot: Logged on 21-01-2016 15:23:26; mircea_popescu: specifically, imagine a future in which every line of code has 100 lines of commentary, much like the talmud (which is a VERY proper comparison)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i've met ro dudes who go by nicknames, e.g., cata (catalin) etc
assbot: Logged on 21-01-2016 15:31:59; mircea_popescu: i suspect this is also msvc widgetry.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> well, i do think to some degree your patch should be restated, but not in the sense of replacing it altogether << yeah, ok. i'll do some work here today / tonight, do a re-test and the hopefully get it to the ML before the week is out.
mircea_popescu is loath to do too much of that sort, because as correctly pointed out, mircea_popescu is a noob in the low level technical sense. without an array of experts to advise and correct, i'll just fuck everything up.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> well, honestly, this wasn't intended as a release candidate, more like a commentary item << ok good deal. was kinda wondering if the forthcoming release patch should bundle this one in or not.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> not a great fan of vchSig and bs myself, eother. << yeah, im not sure why the var name needs to delcare that it is a vector of chars.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> specifically, imagine a future in which every line of code has 100 lines of commentary, much like the talmud (which is a VERY proper comparison) << I never thought of it this way.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> asciilifeform http://dpaste.com/26VKRQG << re: There is no reason to test for both highS and lowS being set, because this is tested in init.cpp already, ... << For some reason I had it in my head that since this gets set in util.h/.cpp that both may become set at some point post execution if someone does something funny.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: fwiw i'm heavily in favour of the 'fix only the lines we touch' school of thought. the whole point of pedigreed-vintage trb is that the totality of the changes we made is apparent to the naked eye.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> if (fHighS && (BN_cmp(sig->s, halforder) < 0)) <+asciilifeform> generally i like to avoid hastening ulcers if possible << yeah, i dont know why I didn't do this to begin with. Heheh.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: the tab/space thing has infected the source code?
mircea_popescu: !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.mod6.5:cde99987242f16de77dd84d523f93a0717dc5ed2029031b9ea1c7659e22c45da
assbot: Logged on 21-01-2016 12:53:23; mircea_popescu: blergh, i don't have the source.
asciilifeform: if (fHighS && (BN_cmp(sig->s, halforder) < 0))
asciilifeform: + if (BN_cmp(sig->s, halforder) < 0)
asciilifeform: neato mircea_popescu. much better !
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 1 patch for the meat, another where just munge
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if you must do this, the right way is to separate the two
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you realize, this is likely the biggest patch so far
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: argh this is painful
assbot: Logged on 21-01-2016 05:18:23; mod6: mircea_popescu ben_vulpes asciilifeform et. al. please review: http://dpaste.com/1E2CM6R.txt
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this kind of thing is pestilentially common in 1) microshit 2) folks who grew up on it. 'i'll leave a massive space on the stack so not to overflow because i can't count and also can't trust myself to put it in heap and remember to free()'
jurov: mircea_popescu: afaik DER is just encoding and it's different problem than S value used in signature itself
assbot: Logged on 21-01-2016 05:18:23; mod6: mircea_popescu ben_vulpes asciilifeform et. al. please review: http://dpaste.com/1E2CM6R.txt
assbot: Logged on 20-01-2016 18:31:11; ascii_butugychag: but if you have a unique itch somewhere deep in a body cavity, and wait for somebody to come and scratch it ~for you~ - you may wait for a while.
assbot: Logged on 21-01-2016 02:49:55; BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> in other news, bitcoin classic has even fewer nodes than bitcoin xt. who was that guy that was the me of something else again ? << They haven't even released a client publically yet
punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-01-2016#1379420 > https://www.reddit.com/r/personalfinance/comments/3bys9m/wife_inherited_10_million_were_so_lost_its_not/ ☝︎
mod6: mircea_popescu ben_vulpes asciilifeform et. al. please review: http://dpaste.com/1E2CM6R.txt ☟︎☟︎
mod6: first high-S tx went through o_O
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> in other news, bitcoin classic has even fewer nodes than bitcoin xt. who was that guy that was the me of something else again ? << They haven't even released a client publically yet ☟︎
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: He's prolly going to turn Stolfi, haven't tracked to see if he's done so already
mircea_popescu: https://www.reddit.com/r/investing/comments/41vjyp/pay_no_attention_to_sky_high_pe_ratios_outlandish/ << who's this ?
mod6: mircea_popescu: eh, ya. but worthwhile.
assbot: So Gavin, will you hold the repository keys to Main Bitcoin classic repo ? : Bitcoin_Classic ... ( http://bit.ly/1QnnEC5 )
mod6: ;;later tell pete_dushenski Salud!
mod6: pete_dushenski: thx, it's old '08
mod6: the first line is the actual tx, and this part "DEBUG DER S: <hex S value>" comes from: printf("DEBUG DER S: 0x%s\n", BN_bn2hex(sig->s));
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: i think these pre-date the zamac thing
mircea_popescu: so what do you think is a fair price per li/ion kWh, ascii_butugychag ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Why list a capacity that is just going to rapidly decay as soon as it leaves the lot?
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag what did you look at ?
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag it's actually less than what it costs to makew by a long shot. im surprised you'e not buying one.
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_butugychag
BingoBoingo: ascii_butugychag: Something like that
mod6: if not wearing a suit (basically, weekends) i wear this coat: http://www.fleetfarm.com/detail/Mount%27N-Prairie-Buck-Soft-Parka---Naked-North-Blaze/0000000036897?utm_source=googleps&utm_medium=shopping%2Bsearch&utm_campaign=google%2Bproduct%20search&gslfah&gclid=CJrjq9y4ucoCFQesaQod8UgMTQ
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> no fucking hunter in the history of hunting wore anything but green and olive drab << i wear blaze
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski depends what you're trying to achieve. if you're trying to achieve more forbes, then yes.
shinohai: !up ascii_butugychag
shinohai: https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/41uhh0/remember_the_forbes_article_something_rotten_in/ <<< yay the SJW's win! No moar racism!
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag it's pretty much a given they were doing her in the butt huh ? given the sizes.
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: nah that'd be 'reloaded'
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_butugychag
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: subsaharan
thestringpuller: https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/41r561/150k_btc_between_personal_holdings_and_associates/ << LOL. "I'm like MP but a big blocker. I'm going to fight him. Bring it on MP"
mircea_popescu: thinking about it... what obvious reasons be those ascii_butugychag ?
jurov: mircea_popescu: i see sample sizes like 200 in a million
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: wasn't that what 23 corp. supposedly sold ?
jurov: !up ascii_butugychag
jurov: ben_vulpes: yes, but orgmode has original keybindings
mircea_popescu: btw, for the racists in attendance : http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_H_mtDNA.shtml << there's a lot of studies about various haplogroups and genetic history of populations in yurp.
assbot: Logged on 20-01-2016 16:36:22; mircea_popescu: the actual bitcoin network looks like a fuzz atop those teeth
ascii_butugychag: pete_dushenski: read the src, it won't kill you
ascii_butugychag: pete_dushenski: by default yes
pete_dushenski: ascii_butugychag: does -addnode auto-invoke 8333 then ?
ascii_butugychag: pete_dushenski: 8333 is the traditional, you can set to whatever else, or not listen at all if you -connect
pete_dushenski: ascii_butugychag: what ports can i use for trb while syncing ? and is there a good reason why trb should jump on 8333 without me telling it to, and without being completely synced ? because this seems to be a recurring issue on my end.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: "But anyway, to answer a question from the public in more detail : poorly. I've never been this humiliated in my life." << nuts. my mind, it asploded.
PeterL: <pete_dushenski> holy cramoly the size of these blocks is bananas, son. it's one 900kb+ after another after another. << and fees are still only ~2% of reward
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag if it is the matter's not settled.
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: it's been 80-90% spamola since start of 'stress test' crap
ascii_butugychag: pete_dushenski: restarting is an imaginary remedy
mircea_popescu: !up ascii_butugychag
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: seawater and uranium are then also 'same thing' ?
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag they're substantially the same thing, the division is a matter of interpretation.
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: in the sense of your earlier example, yes
mircea_popescu: so to get back to it : <ascii_butugychag> so if i offer a kid a candy, i am threatening him with hunger ? << are you ?
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_butugychag