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decimation: so this is a tacit admission that they can't hire anymore?
asciilifeform: decimation: whether this constitutes 'meaning' - i do not know.
asciilifeform: decimation: nsa is the largest employer of folks with any type of maths degree in usa.
decimation: asciilifeform: what does it mean that Dr. Wertheimer decided to post his 'apology' in the AMS journal?
pete_dushenski: the colour pops eh? but ya, the "vex" is too quiet...
mircea_popescu: and get rid of that idiotic one inch white atop the header.
assbot: Knowing when to head for the exits is how the rich stay rich. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1ub3Int )
mircea_popescu not about to click on more arstechnica etc. qntra or bust.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu so naturally the fees on canada's pension scheme have been escalating of late. it was once 1% of income, now up to 4% or something
assbot: Linus Torvalds on why he isn’t nice: “I don’t care about you” | Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/1ub3rRp )
pete_dushenski: pension and then some
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller now there would be a caricature :)
mircea_popescu: that's a ponzi right there.
mircea_popescu: well... you got a pension system right ? just like the us ?
pete_dushenski: stupid chf! thx for blowing our cover guise!
assbot: By the way, here's my 2013 interview with Silk Road's DPR that the DHS told a judge "sounds very much like Karpeles" http://t.co/ZFOtAXLbXL
Apocalyptic: you're a language terrorist nao ?
ben_vulpes: no but you see american english is the only english
Apocalyptic: probably a literal translation of "noir sur blanc" as the idiomatic expression goes
Apocalyptic: "<mtgox555> [03:19:56] Ashley Barr is a guy who worked at MtGox who lived in (White Rock) Vancouver. DPR is quoted to wanting a guy in White Rock murdered"
Apocalyptic: funny thing
BingoBoingo: Make be the proof really is black on white.
assbot: I have black on white proof of Mark Karpeles making multiple death threats against an ex-employee. So does Japanese police. /hashtag/RossUlbricht?src=hash
mike_c: ah, nice to have all the robots back.
mike_c: down, down! first time in forever i can auth myself :)
moldysnizz: Well, hi there.
ben_vulpes: docker run -d to daemonize the proc in container
asciilifeform: very interestingly, there is scarcely any discussion of this matter on the net, besides two or three single-paragraph forum posts.
asciilifeform: i.e., accept the layouts of the other.
asciilifeform: incidentally, this is an issue first documented in (afaik, at least as early as) 2011, and remains unpatched. because actually fixing would require that one side 'surrender'
asciilifeform: in that it presents as meeting a certain set of expectations, which are violated six times every morning before breakfast, and rest assured the authors will say 'no matter'
asciilifeform: ergo llvm is a piece of shit, though it works and is internally consistent (presumably) - by the same logic, i would argue, as 'gavincoin' is a spurious turd
asciilifeform: this is (almost certainly, i did not check but it seems like a no-brainer) on account of those parts of c which are not in fact standardized in any meaningful way (e.g., 'pragmas' for struct and bitfield layout)
asciilifeform: 'fun' discovery of the day. freebsd 'tmpfs' created under kernel built with gcc will not be mounted by kernel built with llvm.
thestringpuller: trying to learn how to run supervisord
thestringpuller: ben_vulpes: i'm addicted to docker
thestringpuller: can't seem to get enough of that
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: seems to work better as time goes on and more resources are available :P
mircea_popescu: all you gotta do is ask and generally, explain what the problems are you know.
PeterL: I'm going to try hacking in an autorestart again
PeterL: yesterday my host went down, not sure why bot stopped today
PeterL: I'm still trying to figure out
mircea_popescu: PeterL wha was the issue with it ?
scoopbot: New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/what-does-desperation-look-like/
assbot: "Some people think I'm nice & are shocked when they find out different. I'm not a nice person, & I don't care about you." --Linus /hashtag/lca2015?src=hash
PeterL: you say you might be able to help with hosting scoopbot?
PeterL: when they adopt bitcoin they gets some say
mircea_popescu: im not disenfranchising them. i merely don't value their arbitrary enfranchisement more than i value a paper fixing new orbits for the solar system.
thestringpuller: stop disenfranching the poor mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: what a fortunate thing it is that in bitcoin, unlike in the united states, men with no means have no vote.
mircea_popescu: el to a very private boarding house. I took a reporter's berth and went to work. I was not entirely broken in spirit, for I was building confidently on the sale of the silver mine in the east. But I could not hear from Dan. My letters miscarried or were not answered.
mircea_popescu: The bubble scarcely left a microscopic moisture behind it. I was an early beggar and a thorough one. My hoarded stocks were not worth the paper they were printed on. I threw them all away. I, the cheerful idiot that had been squandering money like water, and thought myself beyond the reach of misfortune, had not now as much as fifty dollars when I gathered together my various debts and paid them. I removed from the hot
mircea_popescu: ruin and destruction! The wreck was complete.
mircea_popescu: erchants, lawyers, doctors, mechanics, laborers, even the very washerwomen and servant girls, were putting up their earnings on silver stocks, and every sun that rose in the morning went down on paupers enriched and rich men beggared. What a gambling carnival it was! Gould and Curry soared to six thousand three hundred dollars a foot! And then—all of a sudden, out went the bottom and everything and everybody went to
mircea_popescu: Something very important happened. The property holders of Nevada voted against the State Constitution; but the folks who had nothing to lose were in the majority, and carried the measure over their heads. But after all it did not immediately look like a disaster, though unquestionably it was one I hesitated, calculated the chances, and then concluded not to sell. Stocks went on rising; speculation went mad; bankers, m
Apocalyptic: "Der-Yeghiayan testified that his own investigation had found that Mutum Sigilum, a Karpeles holding company, had registered silkroadmarket.org as a means to publicize the site further."
mircea_popescu: they revolutionized the www
assbot: Silk Road Trial: Defense Says Mt. Gox CEO Is the Real Drug Lord  ... ( http://bit.ly/1E5JTnh )
Apocalyptic: myeah, altought it's not the most fortunate sentence construction
PeterL: dunno, seems it lost its connection to irc
cazalla: Apocalyptic, reads OK to me
mircea_popescu: check it out! i found what vc's are trying to live off today! a ~150 year old corpse!
mircea_popescu: this day—and when she projects a new surprise, the grave world smiles as usual, and says "Well, that is California all over."
mircea_popescu: It was a splendid population—for all the slow, sleepy, sluggish-brained sloths staid at home—you never find that sort of people among pioneers—you cannot build pioneers out of that sort of material. It was that population that gave to California a name for getting up astounding enterprises and rushing them through with a magnificent dash and daring and a recklessness of cost or consequences, which she bears unto
Apocalyptic: cazalla, "That that article"
mircea_popescu: eopled land. And where are they now? Scattered to the ends of the earth—or prematurely aged and decrepit—or shot or stabbed in street affrays—or dead of disappointed hopes and broken hearts—all gone, or nearly all—victims devoted upon the altar of the golden calf—the noblest holocaust that ever wafted its sacrificial incense heavenward. It is pitiful to think upon.
mircea_popescu: h and energy, and royally endowed with every attribute that goes to make up a peerless and magnificent manhood—the very pick and choice of the world's glorious ones. No women, no children, no gray and stooping veterans,—none but erect, bright-eyed, quick-moving, strong-handed young giants—the strangest population, the finest population, the most gallant host that ever trooped down the startled solitudes of an unp
mircea_popescu: It was a driving, vigorous, restless population in those days. It was a curious population. It was the only population of the kind that the world has ever seen gathered together, and it is not likely that the world will ever see its like again. For observe, it was an assemblage of two hundred thousand young men—not simpering, dainty, kid-gloved weaklings, but stalwart, muscular, dauntless young braves, brimful of pus
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't know anyone is actually using their protocols for serious work anymore than anyone'd be using the foundation crapolade for any serious work.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg << 'influential' in the sense of perfect position for slow and subtle shitgnomification of various protocols
assbot: It's Easy To Call Us A Tiny Minority When You Engage In Vote Manipulation | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1y3d8Xc )
mircea_popescu: gavin isn't quitting the scam foundation either, and obviously the msm would present it as "influential". what's it influence, reddit ?
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: cadchf -40% in 1h total ponzy. << well... that's a point there, canada totally is a ponzi scheme.
mircea_popescu: Matt O'Brien is a reporter for Wonkblog covering economic affairs. He was previously a senior associate editor at The Atlantic. He is also an idiot soon to be permanently unemployed.
mircea_popescu: http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=GHC+Interactive#symbol=GHC;range=1y look at that, from 900 to 500!
mircea_popescu: guess what, by the same measure apple, ibm, the us fed and washington post stock are all ponzi schemes.
mircea_popescu: washington post article is especially niggardly, which is what one'd expect from the vanguard of us socialism. "o noes, if you look at just this portion of the graph, bitcoin has been falling".
mircea_popescu: now, irl the cow's not spherical nor does it live in a vacuum, but hey.
mircea_popescu: consider my alt economy where the currency is teeth. every person can be guaranteed a job as selftooth extractor, paying 30 teeth over their lifetime.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i fail to see how a guaranteed payment would be inflationary but a guaranteed job not << depends on the definition of guaranteed job. guaranteed payments are always inflationary - that's the very definition of inflation : payment without a counterprestation. jobs however can be guaranteed in such a way that prestation is at the same time guaranteed, at least theoretically.
mircea_popescu: lol gotta love the forum derps. "o hai we're here in the swamp isolated from the goings on in bitcoin. how come we have nfi what's going on ???"
jurov: "After taking the rate into negative territory last month for the first time since the 1970s, it cut another 0.5 percentage points on Thursday to -0.75 percent"
kakobrekla: re ukto news is from tardstalk https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=348468.msg9845674#msg9845674
gribble: User 'ukto', with keyid 61D2F81E4BFEEF11, fingerprint 004467FBE2285A57978AA34A61D2F81E4BFEEF11, and bitcoin address None, registered on Tue Jun 14 22:19:01 2011, last authed on Sun Sep 4 11:57:45 2011. http://b-otc.com/vg?nick=ukto . Currently not authenticated.
thestringpuller: where is the utko news then?
jurov: ^ that's about ukyo?
assbot: Bitcoin Trader Accused of Murder Says He Was Tied Up, Forced to Sell Stocks - Astoria - DNAinfo.com New York ... ( http://bit.ly/1IE8rGJ )
assbot: NSA employee will continue to co-chair influential crypto standards group | Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/1IE5DcG )
kakobrekla: no article about that eh.
kakobrekla: cadchf -40% in 1h total ponzy.
asciilifeform: ^ again repeats the 'no inherent value' crock of shit
davout: so far the best investment in january: +64%
assbot: Bitcoin revealed: a Ponzi scheme for redistributing wealth from one libertarian to another - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1IE2b1u )
ben_vulpes: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/01/14/bitcoin-is-revealed-a-ponzi-scheme-for-redistributing-wealth-from-one-libertarian-to-another/ << derpy but sorta interesting points in the third to last pp
assbot: The Failure of a Past Basic Income Guarantee, the Speenhamland System | naked capitalism ... ( http://bit.ly/1IE1wNB )
ben_vulpes: http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/01/the-failure-of-a-past-basic-income-guarantee-the-speenhamland-system.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+NakedCapitalism+%28naked+capitalism%29 << i fail to see how a guaranteed payment would be inflationary but a guaranteed job not
assbot: /petertoddbtc got it. I'd take it with many grains of salt. That would be nuts...
davout: meanwhile, bitcoin foundation's executive director on twitter... https://twitter.com/virtuallylaw/status/555829864075243521
assbot: Logged on 14-01-2015 00:16:10; mircea_popescu: i wonder if all the bumbling to date was simply baiting "the people" into expensive failure.
mircea_popescu: cazalla: pretty lulzy if true << not as much a matter of true as a matter of holy shit, that trial will be a coin toss. http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-01-2015#976369 still curtious on that point. ☝︎