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ben_vulpes: everyone's trivially framed.
asciilifeform: (another exception in the new law)
decimation: yeah that will be interesting
ben_vulpes: <decimation> [] outgoing attorney general Holder wants to 'make a legacy' << just look for the "apparent pedophilia rate" as evidenced by "he had kiddie pr0nz" to go up.
mircea_popescu: to acquire a portion of the productively outlayed capital i nthe country.
decimation: because that's where the trade bots put their earnings
asciilifeform: at any rate, why would someone with no informational-asymmetric advantage want to buy stocks ?
decimation: asciilifeform: sure, but you are generally talking about pennies per share
mircea_popescu: retail is SUPPOSED to be front run for crying out loud.
mircea_popescu: to those, no doubt five million internet scams.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there are at least a dozen honest online brokerages.
asciilifeform: and they all front-run.
mircea_popescu: decimation a horrible deal. imagine all the noise you'd be pouring into the market.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: but i'm willing to believe that there are newer, more appealing chumpatrons
decimation: well, it would be a big deal if you day trade all day
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the street where i live, just a year or so ago, was covered in ads '$7 / trade111!'
ben_vulpes: https://www.robinhood.com/ << if you want to be front-run
mircea_popescu: yes, much more than say the specialst pays (specialist doesn't pay). this is inconsequential.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> the cheapo stock houses make a killing by charging xx usd / trade << iirc it's about a dime/a quarter per lot, which lot is usually 1k shares, which can easily be 100k usd.
mircea_popescu: essentially the principle being that you may find excellent "best actresses/cocksuckers", but not really "2nd best actresses/cocksuckers" in proportion.
asciilifeform: rhyming translation ?
mircea_popescu: not sure if on the nets or not
decimation: I suppose the principle at work here is that once one has $x, one finds no portion of x to be 'spare'
asciilifeform: ^ ru translation
mircea_popescu: buffett oft dwells on the matter : it's easy for krill to find a good meal, on account of being small. not so easy for whale.
mircea_popescu: there is no significant advantage to size, and a serious problem to it.
mircea_popescu: i dispute this theory.
decimation: yeah I'm using it as a somewhat poor example. my main point is that having $x mil to 'invest' allows one to bend over and pick up stuff that bums have no access to
mircea_popescu: decimation films are some of the most risky investments out there you know.
mircea_popescu: En l'an de mon trentiesme age, que toutes mes hontes j'euz beues, ne du tout fol, ne du tout saige non obstant maintes peines eues, lesquelles j'ay toutes receues soubz la main Thibault d'Aucigny ...
decimation: even in that case, it's gonna take awhile before walmart stock goes from $1k to 1.5k
asciilifeform: aha -that- testament
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform testament ? << http://damienbe.chez.com/testamen.htm
asciilifeform: the cheapo stock houses make a killing by charging xx usd / trade
decimation: what are you gonna do? buy shares of wal-mart and hope they go up 100x?
mircea_popescu: you know you can buy stocks online these days on about 1k i think ?
decimation: having fifty bux means your investment options are limited to your own stomach
decimation: of course someone with a spare $bil to invest in a sony movie (for example) will make $0.5 bil profit
decimation: but the basic bitch here reminds me of something like 'heavier things are heavier'
mircea_popescu: hmm, no testament in english ?
asciilifeform: decimation: another interesting fact re: usa is that rental properties are scarce to nonexistent when you walk out of the high-density areas
decimation: if living off gov't checks anyway, wouldn't a trailer park somewhere stretch the bezzlars?
mircea_popescu: not so in the country
mircea_popescu: the poor flock to the city since the times of rabelais for the same reason : you can eat without working there.
decimation: the other amusing point that the article fails to bring up: if the 'poor' must pay to live in a dense shitty city, why not move to the country?
mircea_popescu: been saying that for a while!11
mircea_popescu: apparently wikipedia deleted a page discussing the "forward" as a generic name for socialist publications after someone mocked obama for it.
assbot: Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1ynInhH )
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for kakobrekla from 3 to 3 with note: wot steward
asciilifeform: at any rate, the article is intensely lulzy
mircea_popescu: i never heard of that one.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu may be thinking of 'washington times
asciilifeform: these two fishwraps are almost always sold in bins together.
mircea_popescu: more like the other Forward.
ben_vulpes: "newspaper" in the trad'l sense of "town rag" still exists in various municipalities. "grey lady", not so much.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform washington post = newspaper in the sense projects = neighbourhoods.
ben_vulpes: lmk if that changes, yeah?
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mircea_popescu: 64 bytes from 185.34.216.71: icmp_seq=1 ttl=49 time=252 ms
ben_vulpes: that link refuses to resolve for me
kakobrekla: !rate ben_vulpes 1 test
kakobrekla: !rate ben_vulpes test
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell manamex you're joining channels and then applying your cloak. FYI.
assbot: This powerful Reddit thread reveals how the poor get by in America - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1ynFBc4 )
asciilifeform: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/01/14/this-powerful-reddit-thread-reveals-how-the-poor-get-by-in-america << we've arrived at the end of the line. u.s. newspapers print articles concerning reddit threads.
ben_vulpes: what are the semantics for working with asswot?
ben_vulpes: nope. perhaps the otp machine?
mircea_popescu: dun think so
asciilifeform: the 'vacuum' will be filled by theft and robbery from the same place as before.
decimation: well, it certainly curtails one form of civil forfeiture at the federal level, leaving a vacuum that can be filled at the state level, if the states so desire
mircea_popescu: seems more like a landgrab than anything ?
assbot: Holder limits seized-asset sharing process that split billions with local, state police - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1ynDEMM )
decimation: outgoing attorney general Holder wants to 'make a legacy'
decimation: apparently usg has decided to greatly limit (not completely stop) civil forfeiture at the federal level
mircea_popescu: "Brothel for Slaking Intellectual Lusts" anyone here actually played planescape : torment ?
decimation: ah I see that link only has a few pages of the book
decimation: is this the paper in question? cryptome.org/2013/09/klepto-crypto.pdf
mircea_popescu: kinda my position too
decimation: I just can't imagine a future in which I will need to learn 'go' for work or pleasure
mircea_popescu: you hate go too ?
decimation: I find the 'go' rant amusing. Would asciilifeform similarly object to python? I believe it can run on mips
mircea_popescu: hory shit i had to pay half a tent of a bitcent in tx fees. HODL EVERYTHANG!!! MUST INCREASE BLOXSIZE PLOX!
mircea_popescu: ahh assbot, so nice to be back.
mircea_popescu: http://www.accessatlanta.com/news/entertainment/celebrity-news/extreme-makeover-home-in-atlanta-in-foreclosure/nQx5J/ << who here lived in atlanta ? is this clinton-era-esque lulz legit ?
mircea_popescu: "what my grenadiers are capable of, only I know. their equals might be found. their superiors - no."
mircea_popescu: so there's a small statue in buenos aires with a san martin quote i absolutely love.
mircea_popescu: hence the "leave britny alone" meme.
xiando: I know, but I don't have to like it. :)
xiando: I would prefer if they don't endorse that or anything and leave it alone.
asciilifeform: they're trying to play it "anonymously". ie, not official << with pretense every bit as thin as with 'tor'.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron: there are plenty of people who are so focused on "mass adoption" as a priority that they will compromise any and all aspects of bitcoin to further that goal; what would get more mass adoption than endorsement from USG? << it could become a new brand of tide.
mircea_popescu: it really gets them the worst of both worlds, but hey, it's what committees get. no actual men there to take charge.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: gavincoin's probably it. << no. in typical fashion they're trying to play it "anonymously". ie, not official.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: i couldn't find good example on top of head. but was jist of it received?
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller: this is how athero was able to launch ziggap << not a very good example. he had amassed trust over time, and likely at a higher cost than what he made out of it. the controlling factor there was "insane guy stopped taking his pills one day."
mircea_popescu: "others will not readily understand how our implementation of 3 card monte is an implementation of 3 card monte, giving us an exploitable knowledge asymmetry - which makes this exactly an altcoin, which is why it's sensible to pretend we're like bitcoin"
mircea_popescu: "whenever misreporting an event is worth more to your stake than it costs to buy back the lost reputation, you misreport the event. decentralized selective scamming ftw!"
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron: such a thing is not possible; there needs to be an arbiter to decide if a bet has resolved yes or no << easier to "invent" stuff than understand stuff. just like it's easier to write new code than understand coding.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: (and that there is another one, where it wasn't. but i think we did this one before) << like 5 or 7 times.
thestringpuller: ^- my bad. copy paste is bad with this one