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davout: mircea_popescu thestringpuller the accountant can account for the value paymium's coin in whatever fiat he fancies, he can go fuck himself before we sell it
thestringpuller: there's a lot wrong there, but my theory is VC's won't let them hold btc like other btc companies
mircea_popescu: assbot: The-Feminist-Software-Foundation/ToleranUX << lmao this shit better be parodic.
thestringpuller: as all their liabilities are covered as fiat, so I assume assets are handled sameway
davout: thestringpuller: why wouldn't they be?
mircea_popescu: "well fuck you then ? not like i care eiter way ?"
mircea_popescu: not a matter of chumpness tho. suppose dude rings your doorbell dressed as a car mechanic. "yes ?" "hello i'm the pizza delivery". "you don't seem to have any pizza ?" "ha-ha! fooled you! i'm only SAYING im pizza delivery"
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: Well ESPN says they paid ESPN in BTC
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: something that takes an ever rarer class of chump to believe.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this assumes they are what they claim to be.
thestringpuller: i don't think they are allowed to hold btc as assets, i dunno.
thestringpuller: BingoBoingo: well they don't burn btc really...
asciilifeform: VCs have been doing appalingly poorly << this assumes that their objective was to do well in the usual, commercial sense
BingoBoingo: Well generally they tend to raise dollars and burn them. Or in BitPay's case start with Bitcoins and then burn those.
mircea_popescu: maybe it's time they fold and just take their subervient place in the ecosystem ?
mircea_popescu: mostly because bitcoin does not reward their "get big fast" pump and dump scam.
asciilifeform: one of the alchemical powers of idiots is the ability to transform theoretically good points into, well, this
kakobrekla: myea bitpay would do better if they just deleted their wallet
mircea_popescu: assbot: Under Mark Karpeles bitcoin did 3,000,000%. Under VC capital, merchant adoption, bitcoin bowl it did -80%. : Bitcoin << that post has a core of point in it. if it weren't wrapped in redditard retardation / karpeles bs, it'd almost be worth making.
mircea_popescu: nubbins`: lifted from deviant art and shutterstock << are the da starving artists going to get a cut of the 14k ?
mircea_popescu: punkman: their demos are stupid though << yeah they had no idea how to sell that thing.
BingoBoingo: devthedev: What is this about the head of 'Muricas other socialist party opening session with an Islamic prayer?
mircea_popescu: davout bicopulation is what that deer in the middle's doin'. ain't me!
jurov: they happen to be in two rooms at the same time
assbot: Logged on 21-01-2015 01:56:34; mircea_popescu: right about at the time they tarred and feathered that asinine idiot who said they should wash hands
thestringpuller: cause they are never in same room at same time
thestringpuller: i figured it out! gavinandresen and mircea_popescu are the same person!
mircea_popescu: punkman: "For one thing, doctors were upset because Semmelweis' hypothesis << yup that's a recurring topic here.
BingoBoingo: !s turd*
thestringpuller: davout: luck be a lady tonight. hehe.
davout: justusranvier: especially considering that block propagation is soon to be O(1)
mircea_popescu: mats: dos via cert chain replacement << this http-SECURE thing is getting lulzier and lulzier
mircea_popescu goes to check teh logs.
mircea_popescu: what fun is that ?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: you missed all the fun
thestringpuller: Mingus is cool as fuck too.
thestringpuller: I love Lee Morgan, such an epic history to him.
thestringpuller: All kinds everything from Oscar Peterson, Art Tatum, Dave Brubeck, Dizzy, Coltrane.
davout: i liked daft punk's first albums tho
davout: also you can't really have the market price according to supply and demand when the supply's pretty much infinite for all practical purposes
davout: justusranvier: in your article you shouldn't be reasoning on the cost of including a transaction in a block as (cost of one block / number of transactions) but you should reason on the marginal cost of adding a transaction to an already existing block that i'm currently mining
thestringpuller: davout: do you like the french electronic music scene?
assbot: And Gavin moves on to the dark side. The Bitcoin project is officially hijacked pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1yI2YM2 )
STRML: BingoBoingo: Thanks
davout: i kind of dislike rails, too fat, too clunky, unless you have something that really fits the rest paradigm
davout: thestringpuller: i like sinatra, it's real simple, and there's very little magic
ben_vulpes: lol well rubby haircuts are normally done by the hair wearer
ben_vulpes: davout: well i've written java, i've written ruby, and i've had extensive interactions with the relevant "communities" (although only my local java "community")
davout: STRML: dsl's get much much easier when you're proficient with the language
STRML: even JS isn't so bad to debug. better than php
STRML: python is nice to debug... java too
STRML: I'm sure they were meant to make things easier but it never quite ends up that way
thestringpuller: it's easier to debug, but so is python in the same context I guess?
STRML: all the confusion and unfamiliarity of a new programming language without any of the benefits
STRML: I echo your frustration with ruby. It's a nightmare trying to figure out some obscure part of the capistrano or chef DSLs
thestringpuller: davout: i'm using it for web apps at work. not really a web stack developer, but it's not as bad as php but still doesn't taste good.
STRML: davout: Thanks
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i also unload the dishwasher in the morning and turn the lights off at night.
ben_vulpes: <ben_vulpes> my new title is going to be "systems and app store submission engineer" << asciilifeform
davout: thestringpuller: i don't know man, who am i to know your personal tastes? :-)
ben_vulpes: i derp through apple's code signing shitshow so that they can focus on writing moar softs
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: others write the softs
thestringpuller: davout: at what point does this ruby thing start to grow on me?
kakobrekla: well hence the question
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: i think ben_vulpes writes softs for apple's stuff commercially ?
kakobrekla: you guys dont survive without apple turds?
ben_vulpes: davout: oh yeah don't use the layout engine
thestringpuller: which of the two*
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: "would you like a mac or win machine?" "You mean which two bowls of shit would I like to eat?"
davout: thestringpuller: yeah. needless to say the experience was short.
davout: "you want to track your code on git and code with other folks? fuck you, i'll make this massive xml piece of shit completely unmergeable"
davout: "you want to organize your code with folders? fuck you, i'll store them randomly and index them in some massive xml turd"
davout: kakobrekla: the IDE where folders don't actually create folders on disk
thestringpuller: you need xcode to run build essentials on make
davout: ben_vulpes: my worst nightmares are those i'm forced to use xcode
ben_vulpes: who wants to "fix issues" related to keys?
ben_vulpes: my new title is going to be "systems and app store submission engineer"
ben_vulpes: trying desperately to eke out food credits over here
ben_vulpes: i'm submitting builds to apple
davout: ben_vulpes: it's downright suspect that it took you so long to come to this conclusion
ben_vulpes: it's downright suspect that mircea_popescu goes to lunch and gavinandresen shows up
davout: diametric: this new assbot is a total scam
diametric: for some real reason it wasn't importing it for the first time correctly, kakobrekla had to manually import it
BingoBoingo: !up teek
asciilifeform: when they do - curtain call.
asciilifeform: and are perpetually tempted to skip the other, honest set, entirely
asciilifeform: the funny part is that the sc4mz0rz are stuck keeping two sets of books.
assbot: Logged on 30-07-2014 13:57:29; asciilifeform: g: 'show me the real budget.' a: 'you're asking too much. that's off limits to you.'
assbot: Logged on 30-07-2014 13:57:10; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: remember the story about gorby and andropov?
asciilifeform: beyond us to produce a dual system of astronomy? The stars can be near or distant, according as we need them. Do you suppose our mathematicians are unequal to that? Have you forgotten doublethink?' (1984)
asciilifeform: chetty: ''Winston made another convulsive movement. This time he did not say anything. O'Brien continued as though answering a spoken objection: 'For certain purposes, of course, that is not true. When we navigate the ocean, or when we predict an eclipse, we often find it convenient to assume that the earth goes round the sun and that the stars are millions upon millions of kilometres away. But what of it? Do you suppose it is ☟︎
chetty: (all you have to do to make such a law work is send the gasenwagen for anybody that knows any maths)
asciilifeform: but if a skateboard with a missing wheel is a substitute for a 'boeing' - then, sure.
asciilifeform: Pierre_Rochard: there is nothing, and good reason to think there cannot be, anything which even rises to the level of an ersatz.
chetty: its ok, they can just pass a law to change the maths to what they like
Pierre_Rochard: asciilifeform: preaching to the choir, but a “substitute” in the economic term is the opposite of a “complement”, not something you necessarily consider on equal footing
asciilifeform: Pierre_Rochard: there are sound mathematical reasons to believe that there cannot be a stable substitute in any meaningful sense.
Pierre_Rochard: davout: I agree, the moat between bitcoin and the “substitutes” is _enormous_
asciilifeform: davout: the idea that there is, was, or can be, an actual substitute (what is the substitute for electrical current ?) - ...
davout: the idea that there exists somewhere a magical bitcoin alternative, suffering from none of its shortcomings, towards which everyone would flow is retarded