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davout: in addition to the thing itself
davout: asciilifeform: i'm up to date logwise, but it's not really clear to me if i should get some sort of chord, or provision separate sd card/storage
nubbins`: and this is the thing you've been testing it on
nubbins`: that's the regular lid on the right?
assbot: test - Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1tsFGsS )
nubbins`: if it can be hidden behind something, much more likely to be set up and left running
nubbins`: but y'know. this is just adding whistles
nubbins`: couldn't tell ya
asciilifeform: they take usb (usb3 even.) and at one point in the beginning i almost suggested baking in a miner. but 1) who makes miners reputably 2) it has no rng (see log)
mircea_popescu: nubbins` nah this won't work. the usb actually steals entropy from pc neh ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform box takes usb stick doesnt it ?
nubbins`: asciilifeform true
mircea_popescu: shit, the usb errupters are a good idea.
asciilifeform: usb miner was quite another thing from the item here. it promised mega-riches to chumps, and attracted a certain kind of crowd.
nubbins`: asciilifeform you could probably get 'em branded at the factory with whatever name/logo you wanted
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not really, you can get a few bux that way but import the risk you get a special box of special units.
nubbins`: remember those usb block erupters? people would literally pay a $300+ premium if you just put the USB hub, a cable, and the erupters in the same box for them.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` don't underestimate the premium we put on people who aren't consumer-broken.
asciilifeform: actually it could make sense if someone were to negotiate a massive bulk discount on the crate of boxes
mircea_popescu: notice how both women display it, centered arund the cunt, but the mother has been worked into society towards a slightly more relaxed position of the other end of the spine.
nubbins`: don't underestimate the premium people are willing to pay for convenience tho
mircea_popescu: http://40.media.tumblr.com/b8746a519151b0d72d59f40f4e78ba4c/tumblr_mldvclICsu1qfrklho1_500.jpg << teh coy behaviour.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` which is why shipping etc doesn't make so much sense. just go plunk down twenny for the box at your local shop
mircea_popescu: fluffypony yeah. hard to find good help these days eh ?
mircea_popescu: davout this thing, started as a casual why not, turned into a fountain of cool. nuts.
nubbins`: what's the make/model?
nubbins`: oh, i missed that as well.
fluffypony: (and that was with agreement to pay)
fluffypony: I thought I had someone, he bailed
davout: asciilifeform: i didn't get that part, it's pretty fucking cool
mircea_popescu: nubbins` yeah lol. i recall fluffypony was lookjing for someone to do that. hard work, tough bread.
asciilifeform: nubbins: it is (was originally sold as) a nas box. runs bitcoind now. idea was that it can also jailbreak and reflash a virginal unit of the same type, if plugged into it rather than the net
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for EPiSKiNG- from 1 to 3 with note: Serious fiat broker.
assbot: Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user EPiSKiNG-: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 11 via 18 connections. | http://w.b-a.link/trust/mircea_popescu/EPiSKiNG- | http://w.b-a.link/user/EPiSKiNG-
nubbins`: fuck, this place really needs a daily summary
mircea_popescu: but this is a perk./
mircea_popescu: that same unit can also be used to replicate itself, with crossover cable
nubbins`: k, i know there was some talk of flashing router firmware as well
mircea_popescu: nubbins` it's forever on the router dude. that was the spec. for a box to plug into your spare router hole and sit there forevert.
asciilifeform: not necessary that the amoebas are playing characters, however. they are not running the show, did not write script.
nubbins`: alf, are you imagining this device as something that plugs in, flashes the router, & is then removed, or an actual node as a device, hanging out of a port on the router?
mircea_popescu: fucking amoebas, the libertard twentysomething.
davout: "how about the fucktards spend six months reading the logs like it's the words of their father, first." <<< no. because cult.
mircea_popescu: he has tuberculosis.
mircea_popescu: o wait. the romantic genius doesn't have a father.
mircea_popescu: how about the fucktards spend six months reading the logs like it's the words of their father, first.
mircea_popescu: srsly, "people who had no idea made this" ?
mircea_popescu: and this metastasized cult of the romantic "genius'
mircea_popescu: "This Saturday, in a stylish canal side house in the center of Amsterdam, a team of four hackers who had never met each other before, including two who were using bitcoin for the first time, might have constructed the theoretical groundwork to solve this problem. "
nubbins`: well y'know, give everyone the internet...
mircea_popescu: think*. at all. it's just.... signal processing, zero introspection, they might as well not have memory.
asciilifeform: 'As such, the funds will automatically be sent back to the user at some point in the future, unless both parties overwrite the transaction before that time.' >>>> obligatory >>>> http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=314
mircea_popescu: it's almost as if twitter has formatted an entire generation to not fucking thing.
nubbins`: joke's on them!!!111
mircea_popescu: half hour later, turns out my tx was doublespent. SO THEY TURN IT OFF
mircea_popescu: so... i go to watch a film with netflix, pay in btc. they see the tx and let me watch
mircea_popescu: ". This is less than ideal, especially for some kinds of digital products – a Netflix-type of service that sells movies on demand, for instance."
mircea_popescu: sooo... any people looking to start a journalistic career ?
davout: "you just need to deposit some collateral"
assbot: Amsterdam Bitcoin Hackathon Winner Discovers Way To Remove Confirmations ... ( http://bit.ly/1wBviKw )
davout: also http://cointelegraph.com/news/113383/amsterdam-bitcoin-hackathon-winner-discovers-way-to-remove-confirmations <<< top kek
mircea_popescu: even if it takes a month, it's perfectly fine.
davout: if this thing syncs the whole chain in 100 hours that would be pretty incredible
mircea_popescu: ie, better than bitcoind for most of its history.
asciilifeform: for the record: 3rd oomkill, 136006 blocks, 25 second restart
davout: "one doesn;t have to import a preloaded chain" <<< the getting up to date from scratch time will be interesting
assbot: Logged on 28-01-2015 19:33:44; asciilifeform: idk what you folks had in mind, but what i was making was that one of these can plug with crossover cable into a virginal unit and deflower it.
mircea_popescu: one doesn;t have to import a preloaded chain
mircea_popescu: well, i was ready to pronounce it victorious if it did more than 10k blocks / 24 hours, so.
davout: methinks setting up might not be trivial if one must also import a pre-loaded chain
assbot: Logged on 28-01-2015 16:04:52; asciilifeform: set it up with the loop now.
mircea_popescu: PeterL well it apparently missed one, and didn't respond to fetch
mircea_popescu: davout something like that. danielpbarron is ready to write a 101 guide
davout: so i'm not very clear how this gets distributed either, folks order their hardware directly and follow asciilifeform's guide? nothing's really decided yet if i understand correctly
mod6: took mine like 12 hours to get that many.
mircea_popescu: the building chain process is in fact a decent way to advertise the node.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there was no particular plan. fill with trusted chain, let it build it up, either way.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform time /
asciilifeform: davout: plan was, iirc, to fill these up with blockchain from parent machine, rather than sync from zero.
davout: curious to see how long/how many oomkills it'll take to catch up
davout: the first 135461 blocksare probably like ~1% of the total processing that needs to be done before being up to date
asciilifeform: appears to be wedged there. and has been for some time. but this is a build without the db lock patch. (ought to have wedged later, though ?)
asciilifeform: 135461; (running from zero on new disk since first i logged in today. see log.) 2 oomkills so far
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> or should someone aspiring to qntra publishing do it instead ? << leaning towards this, but if interest isn't expressed soon I'll take a break from current writing to do it quickly.
trinque: "This is the dawn of a new world." << Inspiring.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: hanbot: Kind of what I was thinking. There just doesn't seem to be much left of it. << bitpay silently deleting the dramas ?
mircea_popescu: or should someone aspiring to qntra publishing do it instead ?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo writing up the "dark phone" bug ?
assbot: A complete theory of economics pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1tsjxLd )
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/a-complete-theory-of-economics/ << see thar
phillipsjk: The Wot is not Bitcoin though.
nubbins`: backed up til at least april right now
nubbins`: incidentally, those Teenage Engineering things i linked to re: packaging earlier? They don't even come with a fucking /case/, and people bought them in the tens of thousands when they were announced
mircea_popescu: not in the wot = no rights.
phillipsjk: Oh the whole "bitcoin is sovereign" thing.
mircea_popescu: phillipsjk microsoft is not in the wot. it can't sue anyone.
mircea_popescu: we're having private chuckle issuance on the basis of future comedy gold revenues.
asciilifeform: i also admit i have a netbsd variant (experimental) for this machine
phillipsjk: asciilifeform, Microsoft has sued companies like tomtom over vfat Pantents (in the US)
mircea_popescu: then in a decade they start with the "TIME TO RUN ALF OUT OF THIS FREEDOM MOVEMENT"