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ben_vulpes: ;;later tell pete_dushenski 'hysterical raisins'!

assbot: Logged on 30-01-2016 02:44:42; mircea_popescu: for the other thing, no. it promotes this anti-computing, anti-intellectual, outright evil view of software being something that is given the user, like an item, rather than the correct view of software being a command given to the computer.

TomServo: Sorry, I had to step away. I've rebuilt w/ v99996k and am seeing the correct max_locks.

TomServo: doh dbenv.set_lk_max_locks(10000); :(

TomServo: mircea_popescu: System has 2048 MB of RAM.

punkman: mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-01-2016#1389596 << so like a rotor reimplementation ? << more like some rotor automation to try various builds and lets you know what compiles or not ☝︎

shinohai: Chillax and smoke more weed mircea_popescu

mod6: mircea_popescu: I believe they should.

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2016#1389489 << ok that's great. << this ~is~ a nice looking graph ☝︎

mod6: mircea_popescu: that's great! very nice progress indeed.

mod6: ok, on that note then; we've got myself, shinohai, bitcoin_pete, hanbot, Mr. P. and who am i forgetting that have built v99996 build script -- i'd say let's put it in deed bot and update the wiki.

assbot: Logged on 30-01-2016 01:10:38; mod6: <+mircea_popescu> ftr mod6 : i ended up with two rotor.sh scripts, one under rotor the other under rotor/test2 << yeah, if all goes well, you should ~only~ need to just execute the build script -- if you have to execute either of the rotor.sh scripts, then something went wrong.

mircea_popescu: dbenv.set_lk_max_locks(2737000);

mod6: mircea_popescu: hey, just because im curious -- let me know if you get past 252`450 -- or if you'd rather, check and see if you have the most recent db.cpp

shinohai: btw mod6 I still have to add the export PERL_MM_OPT= to mine to get it to run, dunno what weird issue I have that causes it.

assbot: Logged on 29-01-2016 19:57:06; mircea_popescu: hey, best part of physics lab was the blackboard imo

mod6: mircea_popescu: no specific reason, we just leave it in place after compilation. moving to trinque's setup resolves this.

shinohai: Ok my old Ubuntu server and the other Deb machine both built with the script pete_dushenski posted earlier

assbot: Logged on 29-01-2016 21:39:38; shinohai: ascii_butugychag: LC_ALL=C nohup bitcoind -conf=/home/shinohai/.bitcoin/bitcoin.conf -datadir=/home/shinohai/.bitcoin/ -setverstring=bitcoind -setvernum=99997 -logtimestamps -myip=127.0.0.1 -verifyall 2>&1 &

mod6: <+hanbot> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2016#1389355 << if this isn't already a standard example, anyone feel like talking me through this option jungle? (starting v99996 for the first time) << so i think all that is really required here is `LC_ALL=C ./bitcoind -myip=A.B.C.D -addnode=W.X.Y.Z &` ☝︎

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> ftr mod6 : i ended up with two rotor.sh scripts, one under rotor the other under rotor/test2 << yeah, if all goes well, you should ~only~ need to just execute the build script -- if you have to execute either of the rotor.sh scripts, then something went wrong. ☟︎

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> You must install 'bc' on your build machine << ah, ok.

mod6: <+pete_dushenski> mod6: 99996k built and running. back to scarfing blocks. should be synced early next week. << ok awesome, glad you got it working

pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: aha.

pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: sounds identical to the strauss-kahn set-up

mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski didn't they kidnap the sitting fmi head over "charged" based on the testimony of a streetwalker that the us district attorney had paid to lie ?

punkman: pete_dushenski: did you start the canadian b-a embassy yet?

pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: canuck polizei might charge rando 'religious couple' because xtians are bad mkay, but foreign ambassadors ?

assbot: Logged on 22-12-2015 01:17:06; asciilifeform: LC_ALL="C"

pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: no debate. but if i'm sovereign, how can the polizei charge me ? what's next, arresting bahamas for health care insurance fraud ?

punkman: what's LC_ALL=C do for bitcoind?

mircea_popescu: <pete_dushenski> punkman: i wanted to cry for the world i'm bringing my children into when i read 'current social consensus'. then i remembered that you have to get caught first ! << this is also rank nonsense , of the http://trilema.com/2014/the-idea-that-bitcoin-is-a-sovereign/#comment-116288 ilk

punkman: pete_dushenski: might be cheaper to just move

diametric: pete_dushenski: the article i read didn't say marks, but specifically lacerations.

mircea_popescu: funkenstein_ well the question of identity and image is too complex to carry out in the margins of that example huh.

mircea_popescu: funkenstein_ no cuz we don't watch videos!

mod6: pete_dushenski: ya, as soon as we get a couple of people confirming that v99996 builds for them correctly, we'll throw it into deedbot, but thanks!

cazalla_: well, the hunt continues, thanks again pete_dushenski

pete_dushenski: ascii_butugychag: right here. same problem.

pete_dushenski: cazalla_: might be worth it to find an older car, higher km, just to avoid the cvt. then again, maybe you drive the cvt and don't mind it for the kind of routes you frequent, who knows

cazalla_: pete_dushenski, any reason why?

pete_dushenski: cazalla_: go with 2010 ;)

shinohai: ascii_butugychag: LC_ALL=C nohup bitcoind -conf=/home/shinohai/.bitcoin/bitcoin.conf -datadir=/home/shinohai/.bitcoin/ -setverstring=bitcoind -setvernum=99997 -logtimestamps -myip=127.0.0.1 -verifyall 2>&1 & ☟︎☟︎

cazalla_: thanks pete_dushenski! came to ask you something about cars actually! are the complaints i'm reading about CVT (noisy, blow up, are shit and to be avoided) legitimate?

pete_dushenski: !up cazalla_

assbot: Logged on 29-01-2016 19:05:23; ben_vulpes: imagine you have to wait for your cane to become useful for a minute randomly during a beating

ascii_butugychag: pete_dushenski: i was gonna point out the version string thing but you found it in the logz already.

BingoBoingo: !up ascii_butugychag

assbot: Logged on 29-01-2016 18:12:41; pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2016#1388376 << lulz. /me wonders if this "would-be defendent" resides in tmsr~

shinohai: YEs pete_dushenski and mod6 in my tests it didnt change. Haven't tried setting or doing anything else since then, just letting the node run.

mod6: pete_dushenski: ok good q. shinohai had some issues with trying to set the value via the command line too - i haven't even tested this yet.

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> ah nm, it was the x86 flag << yeah.

mod6: !up ascii_butugychag

mod6: mircea_popescu: ah, ok will fix.

mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag what are you, from a planet of shelf stable cheese, viande and laws ?

ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: holy shit, shitgnomes are trying to pervert even greenspun's law ?!!

mircea_popescu: kakobrekla at some point it was discovered configure doesn't configure properly without --host=x86_64-linux given explicitly.

mod6: kako: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/attachments/20150808/rotor-db-configure-fix_a955ba9174ccb17790dc9d7c1e2a61794a1c803d.patch

phf: mircea_popescu: anyway, i was speaking of how things are right now in v.py/v.pl. a hunk touches a file, hunks are grouped thematically (i.e. by a single unit of meaning) in a patch. a pairing of antecedent/descendent creates a graph and in combination with topo logical sort produces a press order

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> try just korsgaard << i guess you could try this

phf: ascii_butugychag: i am speaking of vpatches, i'm starting to grok that mp is speaking at a different level of abstraction

mircea_popescu: !up ascii_butugychag

ascii_butugychag: and i saw it again too when mircea_popescu linked it 1st time

mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag srsly, watch that vid.

ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: who said they didn't

ascii_butugychag: incidentally mircea_popescu will be very pleased to learn that over here we have crappy ersatz american non-chalky boards

mircea_popescu: and yet you live with my http://40.media.tumblr.com/a7c31291784cf43ac59f955ff09e5403/tumblr_n0kf5fJB9I1tq04mso1_1280.jpg links just fine.

mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag would you stop trying to be cute. in band signalling is the only fucking signalling there is, until you invent telepathy.

ben_vulpes: ascii_butugychag: unless it's the magic bits to dump the launch codes back down the pipe

ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: it wasn't 'ALL in'

mod6: !up ascii_butugychag

mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag how do you think it lost its luster.

ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: what i want is not a gutted corpse of gnudiff, but a turing-complete vtron

assbot: Logged on 29-01-2016 15:38:47; ascii_butugychag: i suppose this is when i restate my rage at the idiocy of gnudiff

ben_vulpes: http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/08/28_conformal-are-the-real-bitcoin-core-devs.html

mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag i just meant they've been living in a particular half-world for a while now.

ascii_butugychag: perhaps when mircea_popescu wrote 'it folks have become whores' he was thinking of 'crack whore'

mod6: trinque shinohai ben_vulpes polarbeard & anyone else who wants to test the new V & buildscript [v99996]: http://dpaste.com/2WQCDKX.txt

mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag aha

ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: do you recall the article you wrote about the meaning of money ?

ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: ah!

mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag you know, "thinking of the work this means".

assbot: Logged on 29-01-2016 19:02:40; mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag this harkens back to such a more lovely time in the computer lab.

mircea_popescu: !up ascii_butugychag

mircea_popescu: in other spuriously articulated news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/dd1de06b21cc8b41a66decb40820dda3/tumblr_nwspbs40Ru1uo6eclo1_1280.jpg

assbot: Logged on 29-01-2016 16:35:23; mircea_popescu: actually that's the first time someone brought a cogent, well thought out objection to the classic "programmers wanna play and so ruin productivity spending moe time on tools than the tools save" thing

mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag this harkens back to such a more lovely time in the computer lab. ☟︎

ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: note how i cut the shiva patch in 2

polarbeard: mircea_popescu: yep, will come back with a task-unified group of patches

assbot: Logged on 29-01-2016 18:01:06; pete_dushenski: ;;later tell danielpbarron please to point ms. peck (https://twitter.com/morgenpeck) to http://www.contravex.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/letter-to-morgen-e-peck-january-29-2016.txt using all your grace and charm. cheers!

ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: one of the items i have in mind for shivafication is sane event logging

mircea_popescu: !up ascii_butugychag

mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag has a good rule of thumb there.

polarbeard: mircea_popescu: the patch ended up being a bit verbose, yep, but it made sense to me fixing the messages as I was adding metadata, that's why I didn't add filtering, to not add actual logic to an already pretty big patch

ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: it bothered me that polarbeard apparently does not yet fully grasp that every line he writes is a unit of ~work~ for other people to do. ☟︎

punkman: mircea_popescu: so how would you split polarbeard's patch?

pete_dushenski: ascii_butugychag: nor i. rat9 looked spiffy but chewed through swappable battery in ~5 hours. even when 'worked' it twitched and jumped and spasmed and triggered all kinds of inane shit. couldn't even highlight menu bar drop-downs.

mircea_popescu: . i'm with ben_v (and apparently ascii too) in that it's really best practice to make patches small and issue-focused. it's not just a matter of review, it's to ease future rebasing and so on. as antidesign it may seem to you personally on the basis of workflow, this is one of those things where individual has to take a small step back to allow society altogether to exist.

ascii_butugychag: pete_dushenski: supposedly there is an x11 patch to make it go