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coderwill: yeah, i thought about that at the time, but then was like, well, i guess i'm getting to work at one of the most well-known wallet providers, that could be good for subsequent opportunities
mircea_popescu: now go get that cap table."
mircea_popescu: next time tell them "listen bub, i'm not fresh off the turnip truck. you want to hire me on pure salary, it's $1,5mn the first year payable upfront and increasing by 1mn each eyar after that.
coderwill: so when i asked to see the cap table, was told that no one except investors are allowed to see cap table
coderwill: ben_vulpes: sorry wasn't around to reply
coderwill: ben_vulpes: the first thing i asked was to see the cap table
ben_vulpes: oh, mostly just trolling you
coderwill: ben_vulpes: hello, apologies, i have been busy for a few days, but noticed your mention the other day about options
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: undergrads who 'rock the boat' end up 'having problems', one way or another. see also the folks who posted diffs b/w one semester's textbook and next's << can't say as that was my experience. i rocked the boat constantly and still managed to eke some funding out of the university for harebrained rocket schemes
mircea_popescu: (it didn't last tho, meanwhile romania joined nato and every college prof is hawking his own dumbass books)
mircea_popescu: apparently growing up in the civilised world has its advantages
mircea_popescu: you know the one time a smarmy teacher tried to be all american and make the class buy a book we complained to the provost and he nearly got kicked out.
ben_vulpes: i didn't even see the reorderings, asciilifeform
asciilifeform: (for non-usa folks: the 'college racket' does not consist merely of tuition and housing that go up ~10%/yr., but also miscellaneous vampirisms like textbooks that stay almost exactly the same but for the exercise set orderings, at 100-400 usd a pop, moving target every semester)
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: undergrads who 'rock the boat' end up 'having problems', one way or another. see also the folks who posted diffs b/w one semester's textbook and next's
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mircea_popescu: i dun think it is.
ben_vulpes: RI, by my understanding: downloads and verifies blockchain; regurgitates blocks on demand; relays transactions.
ben_vulpes: not really the remit of the RI tho.
asciilifeform was thinking the opposite - civilized nodes could provide arbitrary tx access
mircea_popescu: it will cause trouble at some point down the road, because eventually the blockchain will overwhelm the index.
ben_vulpes: have in fact complained about this in the past.
asciilifeform wonders if anyone else considers this to be lame
asciilifeform: (from the bitcoin.it www)
asciilifeform: 'getdata... ...can be used to retrieve transactions, but only if they are in the memory pool or relay set - arbitrary access to transactions in the chain is not allowed to avoid having clients start to depend on nodes having full transaction indexes (which modern nodes do not).'
asciilifeform: the former, those who have been ceremonially buggered in the usual sense, the latter - those who have not (or not yet), but have been assigned the caste
ben_vulpes: 'pierce' << i think fondly of that time in my life when i had several holes in my face
asciilifeform: which, according to scholars, divides those who have been 'lowered into pederasty' into the 'pierced' and 'unpierced' species
asciilifeform: when someone brings up 'pierce' can't help but think of pederasts
ben_vulpes: any time anyone brings up brock i think of pokemon.
mircea_popescu: sorta like belation causing bloat thing
ben_vulpes: obsessions of the unsexed
asciilifeform: no reason not to chop it off at the wall.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: wanna be hero? post some packet filter rules for this crap
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell pete_dushenski i'll be lucky to get my butt in a miata this decade
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> except they're not orphan, they're just "not in the presence of their parents" << Latchkey Blocks
ben_vulpes: https://diafygi.github.io/webrtc-ips/ << and the demo (warning: hostile)
mircea_popescu: well technically it's improved, over the 200/hour earlier :p
mircea_popescu: so at the present rate, done by conference time :D
pete_dushenski: ^that cyberbullying convo was well timed
mod6: kakobrekla: i like that.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that is a point for later << that's a point from last night
mod6: mircea_popescu: fair point there.
assbot: lcamtuf's blog: Technical analysis of Qualys' GHOST ... ( http://bit.ly/163qQxZ )
mats: http://lcamtuf.blogspot.com/2015/01/technical-analysis-of-qualys-ghost.html << i'm slow on the draw, but this was a good read.
mircea_popescu: except they're not orphan, they're just "not in the presence of their parents"
mod6: they really are "orphans", since an orphan is someone with out parents right? so im fine with calling them orphans, i think there is confusion around how these come into existance.
mod6: pblock is probably not a good name, since in most of the code "pblock" is what is denoted for a pointer to a block.
mircea_popescu: but that is a point for later.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes yes. which is why the only sane way for bitcoi nnodes to work is gossipd
asciilifeform: but again, these are the -other- orphans.
mircea_popescu: lol how about "bitcoin should just work" then
ben_vulpes: but in keeping around orphan chains, the enemy can pollute ones disk trivially.
asciilifeform: requires keeping track of a certain quantity of non-longest.
asciilifeform: the whole process for learning which the 'longest discoverable' is
ben_vulpes: "reference node should only keep track of a single chain: the longest discoverable"
mircea_popescu: because system engineering is a topping for pizza.
asciilifeform: my understanding is that the demented name confusion came about because originally these were handled using the same routines.
mircea_popescu: parentless blocks are blocks which arrived to a node before their parents, and so can't be evaluated for validity (yet)
mircea_popescu: PeterL orphans are short lengths ofchain that were abandoined in favour of a competitor.
assbot: Logged on 30-01-2015 06:09:29; asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: the 'orphan blocks' in question have nothing whatsoever to do with the usual definition
asciilifeform: see last night's thread: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-01-2015#998265 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: seriously let's start calling them parentless blocks / pblocks
PeterL: which orphans are these? how many kinds of orphans are there?
asciilifeform: PeterL: also these are not the same orphans!
PeterL: by the COrphan class
asciilifeform: where's this
PeterL: / Some explaining would be appreciated << this comment sounds like something asciilifeform would put in?
PeterL: so, I'm reading through the bitcoind code as published by the Foundation,
asciilifeform: zombie may even envy the dead.
mircea_popescu: a sudanese, poor as the dirt hre sits in, still has a chance.
mircea_popescu: the only poor people are the "rich people" making 500k to 5mn a year to pay for their mortgage and college loans.
asciilifeform: except that no one does honest scientific collaboration 'to get rich' specifically.
mircea_popescu: so is taleb. so is everyone that DIDN'T join the system.
mircea_popescu: linus is rich, in that ~he can do what he pleases~. your definition of rich.
mircea_popescu: people DO get rich, in the manner of their choice, out of accumulating this sort of capital.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that's beyond short sighted.
ben_vulpes: la vie, c'est le travaille
asciilifeform: sc4mz0r1ng? promises riches, at least to the foolish
asciilifeform: i can't believe that people want to fuck around with sidechains and altcoins when there's interesting work to be done in improving how the satoshi codebase <<< not only sloth, but avarice, is involved. nobody gets rich from honestly fixing satoshi's bugs
mircea_popescu: "why does the horse run, while the worm can but crawl ? because the horse enjoys to run."
mircea_popescu: people interested in actually doing stuff have b-a. everyone else can be "a contributor" (for bois), or "part of the community" (for womyns)
mats: hard work is hard. totes believable.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes the problem is that people are insulated from reality (least it hurts their feelings) and so they are also insulated from everythning interesting, and in the end their own life.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: that was cribbed almost wholesale from evil bitcoind
ben_vulpes: this "orphans" routine though, i must say i love it.
ben_vulpes: i can't believe that people want to fuck around with sidechains and altcoins when there's interesting work to be done in improving how the satoshi codebase handles block downloads
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: thank you sir
asciilifeform: fumes of confused teenagers are going to somehow coallesce into moving << 'dog barks, caravan moves'
mircea_popescu: this, they call progress.
mircea_popescu: i could be sitting in a parisian cafe cca 1815 and lol the same way for the same reasons at the same people
mircea_popescu: no but you know, the fumes of confused teenagers are going to somehow coallesce into moving as much as a hair of actual matter. ANY DAY NOW
mircea_popescu: it's going to get even funnier once they actually try.
mircea_popescu: the funniest thing in all of this isn't exactly the horde of children who don't understand how the fuck they were tricked exactly. the funniest thing is the plethora of articles about how "apple could buy russia"
mircea_popescu: the mirror-image infantilized 20something bois are idem fighting for paul graham's right to pay them nothing while turning them into a strange sort of pulp fiction's gimp
mircea_popescu: this is quite exactly it, and it's not limited to poorly educated, insufficiently fucked, infantilized 20something wymyn.
mircea_popescu: in gratitude they are going to the front lines to fight for the media company's right to pay them less."
mircea_popescu: e'd backhand slap you right out of the glee club: "it discourages women from writing and earning a living online." Earning a living? From who, Gawker? Most of the women writing on the internet are writing for someone else who pays them next to nothing. None of them control the capital, none of them get paid 1/1000 of what they bring in for the media company. You know what they do get? They get to be valued by work, and
mircea_popescu: oo-weak-to-try rapists want to be anonymous. Smart women write clickable articles about their sexuality for nothing, because what good are you if you can't make someone else money? Interesting to observe that the article's single suggested solution to cyberharassment is to reframe a criminal problem into a civil rights issue using a logic so preposterously adolescent that if you laid this on your Dad when you were 16 h ☟︎