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mircea_popescu: nope. but i could have, and the file'd have been .asc too
mircea_popescu: well it is not text, technically, because you can also send it as binary.
asciilifeform: this was, afaik, the only known answer to the mutilations
jurov: yes, that's what i'm doing. it just insists that application/pgp is not text
asciilifeform: i think jurov is working on that one
mircea_popescu: (somehoiw i thought this was the case)
mircea_popescu: jurov can convention be that if body is empty 1st attachment = body ?
mircea_popescu: jurov oh as opposed to attached ?
asciilifeform: there is (optionally) message body; then, for each attachment, there is a detached-sig
jurov: mircea_popescu: it is supposed to show directly the clearsigned text that was used to validate the message
mircea_popescu: you get a hash of the file and an explanation of purpose in the signed attachment, seems reasonable ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: turdatron, as originally built, expects a pattern like this: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-February/000040.html
mircea_popescu: anyway, explain to me like i'm slow, there's a problem with the thing as presented ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there is no message body cause when i put it in the body it got mangled to hell
asciilifeform: jurov: that's not the problem i'm talking about. rather, the fact that turdatron could not possibly have processed this message on its own.
asciilifeform: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-February/000047.html << i think jurov slipped this through manually. there is no message body, signed or otherwise
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if it's not in the signed body where did you get it from ?
asciilifeform: !up the_scourge
asciilifeform: turdatron wants a machine-readable standalone sig (just the --pgp-- block) for every attachment.
asciilifeform: your statement that said tarball must not be used except for research should have gone into the signed message body
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: seems like your post was originally rejected by turdatron because it did not contain a machine-readable signature for the tarball
asciilifeform: folks enjoy the ritual of 'choosing' left- or right-handed thread on the screw
chetty: well it has rather ceased to matter, get screwed by the red or by the blue, who cares
trinque: how hard is it to pick a favorite color out of two?
chetty: more than nine in 10 of the 18- to 34-year-olds plan to vote in the 2016
asciilifeform: chetty: expect this number to reach 99+ as the residual fucks given re: political apparatus waft away
chetty: That’s right — 77 percent of 18- to 34-year-olds in the new survey could not name even one US senator in their home state
asciilifeform: see the earlier link
asciilifeform: try the '!register' function
asciilifeform: the_scourge: not long ago, kakobrekla finished a rework of wot. so there are a few hiccups
the_scourge: the docs made it seem like assbot used the otc WOT
the_scourge: do i just do the same dance with assbot?
asciilifeform: kakobrekla, is the_scourge in the new assbot wot ?
PeterL: aha, needs to be assbot
the_scourge: 16:45 <gribble> You are now authenticated for user the_scourge with key 300A9F6A3D0564B4
the_scourge: oh wait, i've only set up my gpg key, do i need to associate a bitcoin address as well?
the_scourge: i thought i was... one sec
asciilifeform: get in wot the_scourge
asciilifeform: !rate the_scourge 1 new blood, seems like a reasonable fella
the_scourge: do the russians make LTE hotspots? they've started making smartphones with e-ink, but it's a shame i didn't hear about it until after i went off of smartphones entirely
the_scourge: also, north america sometimes. but right now i just need a UK dongle that has chinese backdoors instead of american
mircea_popescu: ima write it up and lookingforward to comments.
mircea_popescu: in unrelated news, i dreamed up a new licensing model which teh foundation and us generally might wish to consdier.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ty!
mircea_popescu: jurov uh but how do i fin the file ?
the_scourge needs to get LTE of some kind but is a bit of a nutter about that kinda shit
the_scourge: asciilifeform: yah we ended up having to use another contractor's LTE just to try to google some of the fingerprints
mircea_popescu: this is how it's supposed to work anyway
jurov: mircea_popescu: the email is out, after a bugfix (to account for application/pgp mimetype properly)
asciilifeform: the telco drops anything at all coming your way that isn't part of a tcp connection you established earlier
the_scourge: and sadly i was on a VERY VERY VERY large very flat network with more class A IPs than ... almost any other entity on the planet. and lots of buggy ssdp routers all over the place 'cause of the (phys) architecture
asciilifeform: the_scourge: i've discovered that cellular modems, at least in the way they are operated in usa, are immune to this type of ddos.
asciilifeform: we have at least two posted by regulars - one that was entirely ssdp (from buggy upnp in consumer routers) and another that was mostly ntp (likewise misconfigured embedded electronics)
the_scourge: this is a paying client. even though everything pointed to me being targeted, i still didn't want to make more noise than i already had
the_scourge: i didn't ask for the USB stick
asciilifeform: the_scourge: would you care to post it publicly ?
the_scourge: asciilifeform: oh yah totally
the_scourge: they brought a wireshark dump over to my desk
asciilifeform: but that's what makes it a dos
the_scourge: asciilifeform: the network guys at $my_client are actually top-notch
asciilifeform: it is actually a bit hard to take a proper capture of ddos (as in, all or even most of the packets) with common equipment
the_scourge: but what's most interesting is the shape of the traffic and the packets... i was plugged into a sub-campus and it would appear that it was using dynamic discovery protocol over http for amplification (using any device that supports it)
asciilifeform: the_scourge: from packet dumps taken by myself and at least 2 other folks here, appears that mr. ddos uses mainly 'amplification' method (ssdp, ntp)
the_scourge: asciilifeform: it totally saturated at least 2 full gigabit fibre terminii
the_scourge: and it was one of the more impressive ones i've ever seen, and i used to see top quality ones on a daily basis
the_scourge: i JUST got ddos'd once last night and twice earlier today
the_scourge: um... recently? as in the last 5 hours? :)
asciilifeform: then ddoser took a vacation, it sorta vanished
asciilifeform: we used to have one
the_scourge: need to put a warning about needing a cloak in this chan :)
asciilifeform: TomServo: can't recall such a thing
TomServo: Came across that looking for a tirade against the period - asciilifeform any help?
asciilifeform: !up the_scourge
mircea_popescu: TomServo i dunno why he's so strung up on it ; semicolon is perfectly fine way to end things ; it also happens to be the traditional english ending of "separable entities that are for ulterior reasons strung together".
asciilifeform thought this was commonly known
asciilifeform: every time.
asciilifeform: had to travel
asciilifeform: the tanks
TomServo: "Whoever decided to use the semicolon to end something should just be taken out and have his colon semified. (At least COBOL and SQL managed to use a period.)" heh
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you mean the shuttle ?!
asciilifeform: "here's a bridge building specification to accomodate the many bad bridges build all over the country" said nobody ever. << the space scuttle was, according to legend, sized so that the typical american bridge could safely pass it. likewise legend holds that this was just short of true, and many bridges (not to mention roads) had lives considerably shortened by the scuttle
mircea_popescu: just as long as i get back the control, i see no problem with !derp!herp!router!alf
mircea_popescu: you know ? i'm all ready to go back to bang paths over here.
asciilifeform: email that actually sends what you want and nothing else would be a worthy project << would have to be present at every hop of the message. a direly implausible project, sadly
mircea_popescu: funny how things change. "PaulGraham's evil twin." ? rly ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?ErikNaggum << check that out.
asciilifeform: jurov: lint would be run locally. by the rest of us.
mircea_popescu: artifexd: Current gossipd status: Education still in progress. Code to the point of loading keys and accepting connections. << sounds pretty good.
mircea_popescu: jurov resent, with signed material attached as file. still nothing there apparently.
thestringpuller: Iterpret the results for me
thestringpuller: does this mean phoundation is trying to hijack nodes?
mircea_popescu: jurov btw i can guarantee my client did no skullduggery to the email. i have the outgoing saved as sent by the mta.
assbot: Greencodds Tenth Rule Of Programming ... ( http://bit.ly/1AowacR )
mircea_popescu: why then would you read nobody's opinion in the newspaper or try to digest a random chunk of online nonsense.
trinque: punkman: "droned" << heh, I just got a call from a weird number saying they received a package addressed to me
mircea_popescu: would you eat a chunk of cheesy-looking substance you found on the sidewalk ?
mircea_popescu: PeterL: re generating seedlist: once conected, the node has a list of working connections, yes? So dump some data from our working nodes into a file, that is our new seedlist for new nodes. Update periodically for people to grab from Foundation website. << not substantially different from the "scan the web" notion. more democracy.
mircea_popescu: "here's a bridge building specification to accomodate the many bad bridges build all over the country" said nobody ever.
mircea_popescu: jurov: " to accommodate the many implementations of <<< specification made to accomodate the implementation. welcome to the world of braindamage, or where do you think civil engineers that flunked go ? computer science!
mircea_popescu: so that we will.