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the_scourge: less than normal
the_scourge: but that's REALLY fucking expensive and at the time the income streams were trickling a little
the_scourge: adlai: 1. i tried very hard before, during and after to get as much tactical benefit as possible. 2. you're right, and in retrospect i could have done equally well by making shedloads of money and shooting a lot, training a lot, hiring and doing private training
adlai: not having actually been in such units, i'm speaking from impressions of people who were - but it seems as though the army trains people to be useful to the army, and any personal benefit that people got out of these units was mainly due to their own efforts to better themselves
the_scourge: or shayetet13 - i wasn't young or patriotic ... and i wasn't when i got a good slot in the british military. i was having the same thoughts as moldbug, but instead of blogging about it i decided to become as deadly as possible in as short amount of time as possible
adlai: but the soldiers themselves were just your average shmuck
adlai: mlrs is just a regular battalion in the army, but it used to be a special unit like that one... so there was this massive cognitive dissonance, where the higher up the officer, the more elite they thought their unit was
adlai: oh to be so young and patriotic again!
the_scourge: i was interested in shesh shesh tesha at the time :D
the_scourge: adlai: i don't even know what unit that is
asciilifeform: i could used a golden toilet too
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in their defense, they can actually use it
asciilifeform: for 75x the price
adlai: more bomblets! more rockets! firing faster! from a bigger vehicle! with better treads! etc
adlai: expecting anything short of retardation from a bureaucracy the size of the idf is hopeful at best
the_scourge: adlai: thanks, done
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the_scourge: which was retarded i was working on a kibbutz as a lifeguard and i was tearing up guys on their weekends on runs/workouts
adlai: the_scourge: now that mp gave you legal residency, you should be able to !up yourself in PM with assbot, and that lasts as long as you're connected to the channel
the_scourge: oh cool i was going to join the IDF but they said i was too old
asciilifeform: the_scourge: 'the fiat thing' ever tries, if you notice, to walk the fine line between scam and outright expropriation/dekulakization
mircea_popescu: hard times in the international diabetes federation :D
adlai: !up the_scourge
adlai: so yes, three years, full time, and reserve duty for the extent of my healthy adult life (unless/til i move out of the country)
the_scourge: asciilifeform: right, that's probably a stretch too far from reality. but USG and HMT and BoE have been doing the fiat thing for a while now, and that's just one step less crazy
the_scourge: full time?
asciilifeform: because it was pure idiocy. just as proclaiming a switch to edison's dc mains grid would've been.
the_scourge: you can monetize ANYTHING with enough mind control and military. post bretton woods, that's all we've been doing!!!
the_scourge: asciilifeform: yes, yes they can. hitler couldn't because his guys were getting beaten by our guys
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> [] 'vulture capital' << i'm surprised you're not making the easy poo joke here too
asciilifeform: (to the latter, there are some possible exceptions, see the ancient inca empire)
adlai still hasn't gotten paid for his reserve duty, but doing this requires physical presence at various government bureaus that keep excessively sane hours
asciilifeform: the_scourge: that king cannot simply order arbitrary objects monetized, or forgo the use of money entirely
the_scourge: adlai: i'm one of those damn tea drinkers. well actually i'm not but w/e
asciilifeform: the_scourge: point was the 'monetization' hypothesis
the_scourge: oh yah apparently mats is predisposed right now i tried pinging him a while ago
asciilifeform: the_scourge: you might enjoy reminiscing with them
the_scourge: the reich is interesting... oil was a big issue for them
the_scourge: unless someone can remind me what the point of the original shells comment was, we drop it :) ?
mircea_popescu: but weren't stupid enough to accept the balancers as their own currency.
mircea_popescu: ie, earlier european governments understood the problems of unbalanced trade, and invented balancers.
mircea_popescu: they did, kinda. cowries played the role in africa that opium played in china
asciilifeform: but then you learn that other aspects of physical world exist
asciilifeform: 'couldn't they just command it delivered'
the_scourge: from personal experience, it's so fucking annoying though the best of us could only last a short while on the inside
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform note that merely the fact of exchanging "Shiny" for "cunt" might well be reported as "monetary shiny" by some people and 'loads of fun whee' by some others.
asciilifeform: the_scourge: as a boy i was fond of reading ungodly quantities of ww2 minutiae. and i remember marvelling that the luftwaffe had to pay xxx reichsmarks, for, e.g., a v2 rocket. 'why did nazis have to pay for things,' i asked.
the_scourge: there is a lot you can learn about finance by signing up to be a uniformed tough guy for one of the big two, with your head already fully unplugged
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the way i understand, they were an early proxy slavecoin.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: afaik the post-slavetriangle use of said shells is a reasonably proven fact
the_scourge: because they're brainwashed into supporting a certain nation (the issuer)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform a word in your ear about "cowrie shells" : it is possible they were ever used for money. it is also possible libertard anthropologists created the pious fraud of "retarded non-white peoples also have some semblance of intelligence".
asciilifeform: the_scourge: but why does a particular army demand to be paid in one thing and not another ?
the_scourge: nothing holds their value other than the force of the issuer's military. i served in one of them
asciilifeform: the_scourge: why, then, were cowrie shells demonetized ?
mircea_popescu: the pound was mini-usd at the time eh.
the_scourge: mircea_popescu: they're not monetizable (paper dollars) - just like the pound
asciilifeform: the_scourge: what's the secondary use for a benjamin? cocaine straw ?
the_scourge: nothing has ever been monetized successfully that couldn't be turned into swords or necklaces or circuitboards or compressors (or eaten but i'm going back a ways now)
the_scourge: and... that assertion is true until proven false
the_scourge: i was thinking about this the other day ... some smart people say that if there is not secondary use (no matter how minor, compared to the total volume) then something cannot be monetized
the_scourge: i know the story
mircea_popescu: at the time the pound was on the receiving end of german rape.
the_scourge: sorry, i was going to ask earlier but... shit happened
the_scourge: mircea_popescu: in your soros example, what is the unmonetized commodity? surely not the gold
ben_vulpes: <chetty> [] email that actually sends what you want and nothing else would be a worthy project :) << gnus, part of emacs, has worked for probably longer than i've been alove
ben_vulpes: <punkman> [] there's this robocaller that waits for me to pick up the phone and say something, pauses for a short time, then says "Goodbye" and hangs up. << calling to find people who pick up
mircea_popescu: aww coin telegraph goiung teh way of what was the one they kept pushing, that was supposedly big ? also coin something
the_scourge: adlai: to be honest my time doing the market data, i was more focused on getting an inside education on the more... interesting things in the financial markets, than stacking my CV with kernel/ASIC achievements. and in that regards i came out quite well
the_scourge: right so translation helped. and i knew there was a reason i still keep a urxvt instance running, even though it's horribly bloated
thestringpuller: ^- that's what she said
the_scourge: um what's the best way for me to find out what that says
the_scourge: hence, the kernel tuning. csets etc
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the_scourge: adlai: oh, i should have said there was custom hardware involved. and 48 core bulldozer CPUs (bad decision, but made before i arrived)
mircea_popescu: !rate the_scourge 1 легальные резиденты
the_scourge: to be honest i just did the studies to get away from computers for a few hours a day.... also to answer the big questions in life
the_scourge: and for education... fuck that seems like a long time ago but among other things i did a masters in ancient philosophy, languages and regilion. studied greek and aramaic and history as well
adlai doesn't see the connection between "linux kernel" and "market data", but if that's interesting/profitable, glhf
the_scourge: kernel as in... the linux kernel
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: leprous beggar sounds more like undead beggar in your instance then.
the_scourge: in another life it was all systems programming etc but then i decided to go to the UK and join the Royal Marines... really really long story
adlai: kernel as in trick?
adlai: "market data kernel tuning"?
the_scourge: erm well i work for myself doing ... what is interesting/profitable. was market data kernel tuning, then perl coding, now more 'devops' stuff
mircea_popescu: the suspicion being that perceived brilliance in other fields may be more the newspaper memory hole than his own merit.
the_scourge: mircea_popescu: well what do you want to know
the_scourge: thestringpuller: also, probably best to avoid parallel womb renting
the_scourge: i've just finish reading all of his non-bitcoin and non-economics posts (those are two things he ... isn't that brilliant with)
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: neh, that's honest work
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: is this similar to female who rents out womb for having babies for infertile couples?
asciilifeform: trinque: try reading
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the_scourge: for a bunch of scottish guys to buy their porridge with... really?
asciilifeform: trinque: that was moldbug's notion
trinque: I hadn't ever thought about it in those terms before
trinque: was talking with someone the other day about how the american system of govt is a shattered sovereign
mircea_popescu: trinque quite exactly. accidental central planning and laika is alone in the control center.
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: if a leprous beggar could rent out space in his necrotic arsehole by the hour, to several clients in parallel, why wouldn't he
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller you ever read that crooked timber tyhing about the bezzle was in log yest ?