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ben_vulpes: <the_scourge> mircea_popescu: yah cool, i did read
through some logs << some lol.
the point is
that you've gotta pick up
the variety speak, and
that comes from reading logs in near-real-time for six months, not "some" or "a few" or "the ones i found interesting and/or easy"
☟︎ the_scourge: which is why we're going
to get 3-parent babies soon. which is bullshit it's just a mother, father + a different woman's mitochondira
thestringpuller: i was
talking about evolutionary.
the selection process of how
they end up in cells
thestringpuller: mitochondria are
the shit cause
they make ATP so efficiently
thestringpuller: it's not about energy exerted in
that case it's about
the cost
to build
the proteins/enzymes
to break
them down :P
the_scourge: thestringpuller: get on
topic. if you like biochemistry,
tell me what is
the cost of breaking spirulina cellular walls. now :)
the_scourge: BingoBoingo: yes, moving
to meat was a benefit in itself
BingoBoingo: the_scourge> when we started cooking our food (cause fire was a new
technology at some point), our intestine shrunk by over 20%, leaving more energy for our brain << More likely shrunk as meat became nutrient fire or not. Most carnivores have short GI
tracts because meat digest faster
than comlex plant matter. Cell walls are a bitch
to break.
the_scourge: i'm not disagreeing with you. i eat lots of meat. when i lived in a freer countries, i shot most of what i ate. you're preaching
to
the choir here but
there are huge benefits
to some of
the more accessible forms of protein
the_scourge: when we started cooking our food (cause fire was a new
technology at some point), our intestine shrunk by over 20%, leaving more energy for our brain
BingoBoingo: Mitochondria is not everything. with steak you pop cellular membrane and start
tearing a part long chains of proteins
the_scourge: and hey i'm of
the "catch and eat it raw" line of
thought as well, it's just
that from a scientific look, spirulina does require a lot less investment
BingoBoingo: Digestive effort is easy. Small intestine gets pumped full of all
the right enzymes
to process animal protein
the_scourge: basically spirulina,
the advantage is you have
to break down one cellular wall and you have mitochondria, meat is a MUCH harder process
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the_scourge: BingoBoingo: second point, valid. however, getting
the meat in your mouth is 1/10th
the battle
BingoBoingo: <the_scourge> spirulina is far better
than meat
than meat as a protein source. fake bio knowledge or not, ask you local biochemist what must be done
to meat before your body can digest it :D << Also even
though "complete" spirulina in low in some more important amino acids
BingoBoingo: <the_scourge> spirulina is far better
than meat
than meat as a protein source. fake bio knowledge or not, ask you local biochemist what must be done
to meat before your body can digest it :D << Must go in mouth. Even raw I digest fine.
the_scourge: except for
the end. kinda gets distracted by shiny misdirection :)
the_scourge: as for it being more expensive... what a retarded
thing
to say. even for USG
the_scourge: spirulina is far better
than meat
than meat as a protein source. fake bio knowledge or not, ask you local biochemist what must be done
to meat before your body can digest it :D
nubbins`: altho apparently
this is a misnomer, as it's actually prokaryotic
mircea_popescu: this is just a conspiracy
to drink more piss, isn't it.
mircea_popescu: The algae has actually been
tested and successfully grown in human urine at 1:180 parts. After 7days, 97% of NH4+-N, 96.5% of
total phosphorus (TP) and 85–98% of urea in
the urine (ca. 120-diluted) were removed by
the microalgae under autotrophic culture (30 °C).
nubbins`: spirulina seems
to be straight-up bacteria
nubbins`: "The U.S. National Library of Medicine said
that spirulina was no better
than milk or meat as a protein source, and was approximately 30
times more expensive per gram."
punkman: there is
that whole "may contain
traces of pig cocks"
thing, but meh
mircea_popescu: <punkman> asciilifeform: because
there is less crap
to undo? << because it's actually before
the "bitcoin is important" point of no return.
kakobrekla is unaware of how badly scattered
the mining code is
punkman: as for moving satoshi cpuminer
to different binary, it's gonna need
to use
the "getwork" avenue, so I'm guessing
that'd be a significant rewrite
punkman: well
that's what we want
to do, mutilate
the hell out of it. just in different direction.
punkman: asciilifeform: because
there is less crap
to undo?
nubbins`: ive seen members of parliament call each others sleeveens with impunity because
the speaker of
the house didn't know wtf it meant.
nubbins`: and generally when one is called a sleeveen, one does not know how
to
take
the insult, due
to being wholly unfamiliar with its definition and usage
punkman: asciilifeform: satoshi's miner is valuable for
the same reasonas
the rest of
that piece of shit << is it valuable? I
thought
the goal was
to replace satoshi's hairballs.
nubbins`: it's in
the dictionary of newfoundland english
nubbins`: try
to incorporate
the word "sleeveen" into
the article as well
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nubbins`: mp quote me saying some people don't bring shit
to
the
table
assbot: Search
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mircea_popescu: and now im off
to
trilemize
the dictionary/spec discussion, if anyone wants
to be in ask now.
the_scourge: mircea_popescu: jargon studies? i did read
the jargon file front
to back if
that's what you mean. long long
time ago
though
mircea_popescu: however,
the absence of "chthulhu" from
there will be regarded as prima facie proof
that
the word in question was in fact not 1900s london argot.
adlai: my dad has not one but
TWO dictionaries
that require a magnifying glass
to read
the copy
nubbins`: and a page from a word-a-day calendar with
the word "grok" defined,
that occasionaly *is* a dictionary
mircea_popescu: note
that
they usually explain
their limitations. "A dictionary of 1900 London argot" won't contain nixonisms
nubbins`: by
that measure, i've got 3,000-page beasts
that are not dictionaries
mircea_popescu: nubbins`
the only
thing
that makes you go "this isn't a fucking dictionary" is if you look for a word
that should be in but isnt
trinque: asciilifeform:
this student appreciates
the pasted lesson
nubbins`: <+mircea_popescu> dictionary = "exhaustive list of all
the symbols in a conventional symbolic space, with adnotations." <<< why does it have
to be exhaustive?
the_scourge: does assbot have a glossary? for
things like usagitalk?
the_scourge: which by
the way, if we ever
turn
THAT kind of proof (fuck, even literate code commits) into PoW,
then it's anybody's game (again) but ...
too
theoretical
nubbins`: we all don't bring something
to
the
table
the_scourge: mircea_popescu:
true but we all bring different
things
to
the
table, i could write a book on NRx history, philosophy etc:
that is proof of hard work done
mircea_popescu: i see little in
there other
than "agend desperate
to create personal raport as attempts
to control
teh public venue aren't working for ununderstood reasons
that look scary."
mircea_popescu: there's not even any need
to specify it actually contains definitions.
the quality of
the definitions distinguishes a good implementation from a bad one and
that's all.
mircea_popescu: dictionary = "exhaustive list of all
the symbols in a conventional symbolic space, with adnotations."
mircea_popescu: it's not a book, it's a list. and it doesn't have
to be alphabetically sorted.
mircea_popescu: leaving aside
that
there's no etc allowed ; A BOOK ? why
the fuck is it a book.
mircea_popescu: "a book containing
the words of a language alphabetically arranged, with
their meanings etc"
mircea_popescu: and
the problem is even more visible in dictionaries (as definitions are simply
the specifications of words). never is it
the case a dictionary manages
to not include extraneous nonsense in
the soup
mircea_popescu: i defy you
to find a spec anywhere in use in
the shitstack
today
that manages
to not include
things it really has no business specifying.