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mircea_popescu: well obviously profilers exist. just, people seem sorta shy
to put
the bytestream in your face so.
assbot: Logged on 05-02-2015 04:48:10; mircea_popescu: You can see
the compiled assembly code for any just
typed in function
mircea_popescu: the sorts of
tediums i have machines do is generally seen as closest
to c
mircea_popescu: im {un/}fortunate
to be in
this position where
thje actual business end of my mental life can in no manner by done by machines. so lisp is entirely useless
to me.
mircea_popescu: still,
this is like
the first
thing i've seen in nigh on 20 years making me almost feel like
trying
to code in it.
BingoBoingo: decimation: Julia is generally aimed in
the direction of scientific computing crowd.
mircea_popescu: this would be
the first compiler brave enough
to expose itself
to programmer scrutiny
thus
mircea_popescu: You can see
the compiled assembly code for any just
typed in function
☟︎ BingoBoingo: It's still node.js and iterations on
that
theme.
decimation: I donno,
they are probably selling each other software as a service as a service
decimation: so guido has no audience other
than
the one
that he is
trying hard
to ignore
decimation: all
the 'web developers' have already moved on
to node.js or whatever crazy shit of
the day
BingoBoingo: I guess even
the scientific stuff
though is just acaderps prefering python
to perl
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo
that was
the lulziest
thing ever. "we'll break with 2.x but still have 1.x issues"
decimation: BingoBoingo: yeah
that's precisely my point
BingoBoingo: substitute for perl, substitute for matlab, and all of
this on version 2. Version 3 is a hostile hardfork.
decimation: guido has managed
to completely ignore
this set in exchange for creating some random dangly bits
that no one cares about
mircea_popescu: decimation except ruby came
to peak and
then withered before python managed
to get a new major version out :D
decimation: whatever life python has left is primarily driven by usg academic
types
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Hence
the PNGs of
the pages and
the hashes.
decimation: comparing guido and linus, one finds guido did all
the wrong moves
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo no, it just wants
to go on doing what it's best at!
assbot: Logged on 26-07-2014 18:48:15; asciilifeform:
this is why i simply don't get people who continue
to
think of
their relationship with
the u.s. court system in legal, rather
than military,
terms.
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BingoBoingo: <decimation> what about
the 'altruism' of mitocondria? << It's not altruistic. It is lazy and wants
to be fed with minimum effort.
trinque: might've
taken a while but
the end result isn't a piece of shit
trinque: almost done rsyncing my wad o blocks
to
the server; when I come back in a bit imma publish
the first bundle
decimation: what about
the 'altruism' of mitocondria?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform basically,
this
thread is about new guy
trying
to make sense of
the batshit insane
that is b-a.
mircea_popescu: of people with different characteristics. Animals are animals. It's a
thing into itself, not some anthropomorphized cuteness. Fundamentally, we could present
the problem in saying
that you're a furry."
mircea_popescu: "You're
thinking of animals based not on interaction with animals, but on interactions with human depictions of animals. Such as animals drawn by a person in a book, "animal" cartoon characters made
to resemble people, people in animal plush costumes and so forth. All of
this creates in you
the false but deep seated impression
that animals are residually a sort of people.
This is not
true. Animals are not at all a sort
assbot: Peripateticists, kinda, except girls not boys, bare cunt instead of
toga and walking around
the house not
the garden, but otherwise exactly
the same. pe
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phillipsjk: mircea_popescu, you called it :"The way
the Air Force had it figured, if a canopy could survive an impact with a frozen bird, it would certainly live
through a chance introduction
to one
that could still fly under its own power.
They further believed cold chickens provided a better simulation of a bird
that had
tensed
to prepare for
the impact. "
mircea_popescu: like
the us borrowed a uk gun, and
then
trying
to understand why
the damage was so bad asked
the english
decimation: re: stronger airplane << can be a problem - what if you want
the engine
to shut down?
mircea_popescu: well it's engineering... if
they
test with it still frozen
phillipsjk: Um It is my understanding
that
the
turkey is supposed
to be
thawed for
the
test.
decimation: they are actually a fairly significant object
to hit at high speed
decimation: I saw a goose
trying
to cross an interstate once; it caused a feather explosion
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
throughout eastern canada
too, or at least were.
mircea_popescu: trinque actually
they'll fight you,
too. more
than one woman got scared shitless of flocks of geese
mircea_popescu: whosoever
takes will
take in
the manner
that it is given, and
there you have your submission.
phillipsjk: You seem
to be claiming
that hierarchy always forms in groups of animals.
Therefore, any non-hierarchical behavior noted just reflects
the observer's bias.
mircea_popescu: by its very definition, no less.
to give, someone has
to
take.
mircea_popescu: and
to complete your headspin :
there is no altruism, either ever seen or in principle possible, outside of a domination/submission relationship.
mircea_popescu: tho perhaps some observer may
think he understood
the example better
than
the geese
phillipsjk: Well, with
the goose example,
the lead bird has
to work extra hard
to fly
through
the air. By
taking
turns,
the "leader" does not have
to drope dead half-way.
mircea_popescu: but it would seem
to me
that even should i decide
to
take
turns with
the woman as
to who's on
top,
this does not automatically preclude us from enjoying a D/s relationship.
mircea_popescu: which of
these examples is "without submission/domination" ?
assbot: Logged on 04-02-2015 19:39:56; mircea_popescu: submission is cooperation, just, functional.
the sort of cooperation you have in mind is simply not found in nature is all.
phillipsjk: mircea_popescu, cooperation is common in nature. Even without submission/domination. Examples include Geese
taking
turns leading migrations, alarm signals (sometimes seen as altruistic), herd/school protection.
Vexual: i guess it's gonna
try explain
the battle for control of nassau
PeterL: in
the way of people do what
they want and rape each other and kill anybody in
their way, etc
PeterL: I
thought it was great