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asciilifeform: except that this is an astonishingly abstruse model for what the lamp/socket do.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform> when you plug a lamp into a mains socket, is that also a 'streaming query' ? << For some kinds of lamp sure.
trinque: vs say asking "hm, at this point in time are there electrons moving in this wire?" *plug* "Yes." *unplug*
trinque: asciilifeform: yes, the power has been declared to be, then the lamp may make use of that fact as it does
ben_vulpes: every night my tiny brain
ben_vulpes: every night these koans
asciilifeform: when you plug a lamp into a mains socket, is that also a 'streaming query' ?
trinque: there's this idea of streaming queries that's been kicked around a bit
trinque: I was thinking my love of relational databases (view composition, etc) would map to that model pretty well
trinque: -or- when the hell do I get a dataflowputer
punkman: but also it died the other day, and no warranty
trinque: asciilifeform: nah, tis but the rambling of an addict who will never find his fix
punkman: jurov: https://www.olimex.com/Products/OLinuXino/A10/A10-OLinuXino-LIME/open-source-hardware guess we'll end up with this << I had one of these. It doesn't have wifi or built-in NAND, has SATA, can run off battery. Doesn't need binary blobs if you don't care about GPU.
asciilifeform: trinque: ever found the 'easier machine' ?
ben_vulpes: oh asciilifeform that's a great story
trinque: and that is decidedly not anything lenovo's squeezed out recently
trinque: that said fuck that shit; I'm sure there's an easier machine to deal with
trinque: I still have the kernel config somewheres
asciilifeform: trinque: finished in the sense of there not remaining a single peripheral that could be described as not entirely working to spec ?
trinque: asciilifeform: I once finished gentoo quest on a two-generations-back macbook pro
ben_vulpes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TzGV6YNmEM << what is this shit Vexual
asciilifeform: 'the new state-of-the-art destroyer, her ambitious captain and seemingly fumbling crew were placed under arrest and sent to Bermuda for trial. it was the first time in the history of the United States Navy that an entire ship and her company had been arrested. The William D. Porter was surrounded by Marines when it docked in Bermuda and was held there for several days as the closed-session inquiry attempted to find out what ha
ben_vulpes: punkman: using addnode= to add a node from which to pull the blocks
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Nah, hand listed at least for now. Over the next month or two will work on making categories more useful for browsing since mike_c wanted it so
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [] a) what chicks and b) what pay. << i can speak to the chicks
ben_vulpes: oh, d'ja hack the whoopies BingoBoingo?
BingoBoingo: Everyone who wanted qntra to have a category page http://qntra.net/categories/ now lives
ben_vulpes: phillipsjk: what does bootstrap.dat have to do with anything?
phillipsjk: I don't think 0.5.3 supports bootstrap.dat, but I could be wrong.
ben_vulpes: thanks for the repro, punkman
punkman: I setup a 0.5.3.1 node yesterday, stuck on 168000 today
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cazalla: oh that argentine pres.. what a racist! http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/04/argentinian-president-racist-joke-china-trip
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> chick's so drastically ugly tho... << pretty indicative of the tail to which us brass has access
mod6: anyway, thanks guise.
mircea_popescu: anyway, that's all for me. nighty!
mircea_popescu: whichever's not 2gb is the one you're working on
mircea_popescu: mod6 they become full at 2gb
mod6: think that's the one to check?
mod6: during debugging, i did see something that mentioned "blk%04d.dat" when looking at the txout.scriptPubKey vector: http://dpaste.com/1E4QQ9A
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes have a logwatcher trigger ? renice everyything ?
mircea_popescu: there should also be a bdb based method but it probably would take longer to untangle
mircea_popescu: if the worst comes to worst diff blk00x.dat pre and post
Vexual: 053 becomes a thing
asciilifeform: http://www.fiftythree.org/etherkiller/img/idekiller.jpg << as do these
ben_vulpes: instead, instruct me on the arcane art of dumping specific blocks from a bitcoind 0.5.3
asciilifeform: http://geekotic.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/image37.png << these do work
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: your lessons come too late, sir!
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: if you were trying to get $proggy built for apple's gui to draw on an x11 instance, i regret to inform you that this won't work...
mod6: how can i do that?
mircea_popescu: well is it the same ?
ben_vulpes: while it must surprise everyone here, the fact that i am a process man who's only barely grasped the basics of *nix operation bears trotting out on a *regular* basis apparently
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: actually this very wedge (though differing tx id) has been documented in the past. see last night's log.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: where did you get them?!
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i assume you built them for x11
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i'll have to compile it meself, apparently.
mircea_popescu: but no one else ever ehard of this, and so we wish to see his block
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes the idea with the native cruftery is, he found a reliable way to wedge the bitcoind at a certain heright which just so happens to be the checkpoint
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i did burn in excess of two days attempting to get either a firefox or chrome to connect to x under os x
mircea_popescu: a damned sight more optimistic than you, this pessimist
mircea_popescu: g when their decks are awash. It is only that the other element in man, the lazy, cowardly, debt-bilking adulterer who is inside all of us, can never be suppressed altogether and needs a hearing occasionally."
mircea_popescu: sentiments make no appeal. Nevertheless the high sentiments always win in the end, leaders who offer blood, toil, tears and sweat always get more out of their followers than those who offer safety and a good time. When it comes to the pinch, human beings are heroic. Women face childbed and the scrubbing brush, revolutionaries keep their mouths shut in the torture chamber, battleships go down with their guns still firin
mircea_popescu: here asciilifeform : "I never read the proclamations of generals before battle, the speeches of Führers and prime ministers, the solidarity songs of public schools and left-wing political parties, national anthems, Temperance tracts, papal encyclicals and sermons against gambling and contraception, without seeming to hear in the background a chorus of raspberries from all the millions of common men to whom these high
mod6: i'll carry on tomorrow. im like X_X at this point.
ben_vulpes: why would one bother with the native cruftery?
mod6: i've basically run and break when nBestHeight=167999 and then go from there, but not turning anything meaningful up yet. however, i'm sure i'm not sure how to dig into these vectors properly yet.
asciilifeform was about to be surprised
asciilifeform: ah then
ben_vulpes: mas tracks sil vous plait Vexual
ben_vulpes: i'm using sbcl for stump, now that we mention it
asciilifeform: in case ben_vulpes wants to play with it on one of his existing stock macs
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> ben_vulpes: sbcl runs entirely without problem on mac os << so as to say "why bother with gentoo?"?
asciilifeform: describing the gotchas from the last time i personally tried this.
Vexual: do tell
ben_vulpes: myeah, but i think i missed a leap in your reasoning.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i somehow got the impression that you were considering gentoo-on-applehw
ben_vulpes: is the point to run sbcl on "strange iron"?
asciilifeform: strange iron being, say, that very same 'air' (circa '09)
asciilifeform: it was long ago that i last tried.
asciilifeform: actually for all i know, they might
ben_vulpes: what do you mean by "strange iron", though?
ben_vulpes: i'm entirely naive to quirks of the underlying chips.
ben_vulpes: gabriel_laddel: for a gentoo like what you describe, i'd go through the headaches of dual booting.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: laugh, but that's actually what i used mine for
ben_vulpes: but that which gabriel_laddel described was a damned siren song for a boy who grew up on os x.
ben_vulpes resists temptation to troll alf
gabriel_laddel: ben_vulpes: I'm currently counting lines of algol and fixing up the dashboard
ben_vulpes: gabriel_laddel: i yet yearn for the day i dual boot os x and a lispy gentoo
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: lol. The idea of a closure doesn't need to be stretched out across several chapters, but e.g., the cl-ppcre chapter is good for the non-lisper to read.
asciilifeform: 'only the top percentile of programmers... if you can understand this book, you are in the top...'
asciilifeform: that book had possibly the spammiest jacket, for reasonably sane subject matter, of any crackpot self-pub work ever printed.
gabriel_laddel: ben_vulpes: Hello. How is life treating you?
asciilifeform read 'let over lambda', was not terribly thrilled
mircea_popescu: an' tbh it wasn't much more than a passing remark anyway, so we've made more of it than its frail back can carry
gabriel_laddel: regarding the preceding discussion on asm, common lisp vs. julia vs. C, the book Let over Lambda is quite good and discusses these and related issues in-depth.
mircea_popescu: wasn't this improved out of it ?
mircea_popescu: you'd normally expect the opposite
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the original point wasn't that there don't exist profilers, but that it's rare for a language to put the bytecode in the programmer's face, and especially for a new and (at least in my perception) hip one.
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asciilifeform: perhaps adlai would care to offer a neater one.