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mircea_popescu: it's the simple knowledge that the usd is just a scam altcoin anyway.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's not the abundance that makes them not news worthy.
mircea_popescu: cazalla: lol @ USGavin pumping satoshi for his dox straight off the bat << funny how that works, in retrospect huh.
asciilifeform: ^ items like above are so plentiful that no longer considered newsworthy
asciilifeform: the $maxints that simply vanish into the mountain of paper, where a missing $bil in the balance sheets isn't even interesting to the accountants - to the extent the sums represent real, vs. imaginary buying power -
decimation: everyone else in wash dc is just the help
decimation: yeah, they are closest to the money that spews forth from usg
asciilifeform: the actual slurping black hole at the center of usgalaxy.
asciilifeform: -this- is where the usg budget actually goes.
asciilifeform: cutting straight to the chase - the folks at the management layer of all of these bezzlatrons are kept in mansions, boats, 'hookerz and blow', expensive lawyering, investatron fuel rods, etc.
decimation: someone has to 'provide' the muscle, buildings, etc in all those third world countries usg mucks with
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=potomac | The "Darkhorse" of rich American towns, Potomac is, based on per capita income , the richest community in the Country. While it is often believed that Greenwich ...
asciilifeform: decimation: virtually none of the real 'winners' are on civil service payroll
decimation: lobbyists, lawyers, contractors who 'bill' usg for their services
decimation: asciilifeform: yes but most of those 'usg employees' are not actually on the official payroll
assbot: Mike Tyson Potomac Home | Family of boxer Tyson unhurt after fire at Potomac home - Baltimore Sun ... ( http://bit.ly/19aRWp1 )
asciilifeform: paying for hundreds of thousands of imbeciles to attent harvaprinceyaleton
decimation: as I recall mike tyson had a mansion there, had real tigers
mircea_popescu: much like the russian leftovers.
mircea_popescu: the thing is, a destroyer "cost" a coupla bil, and will sell for what, 10-20k btc.
asciilifeform: (how? see tlp article)
asciilifeform: at this point, virtually anyone living like 'upper middle class' and above in usa, is usg spending personified
decimation: of that 17%, probably only about 10-20% of that is actually 'keeping boat afloat'
decimation: well, most of that is simply stripping people with money and giving it to 'deserving groups'
asciilifeform: if you want to see usg spending, visit the 'potomac' quarter of d.c. area, for example
mircea_popescu: the other 50% is spent on imaginary things that meet no pactical verification
decimation: yeah that's about right
mircea_popescu: decimation but it's about 50% of the spending that actually does something, you see.
asciilifeform: but it would be grand to see old 'movers and shakers' of usg row until the end of their days.
decimation: actually the carriers and the entire dod welfare parade is only about 17% of the total usg spending
asciilifeform: it doesn't have to actually move
asciilifeform: that's what i always wanted to see
mircea_popescu: take it to venezuela and bombard the capital.
asciilifeform isn't usg vizier, isn't paid to plan
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform your model implies i am going to be able to buy off us destroyers.
asciilifeform: slaves to crew the boat, pull the hydrocarbons out of the ground, everything in between.
mircea_popescu: only provided they're allowed to roll debt.
decimation: not to mention keeping old people & minorities in free living
mircea_popescu: that takes money.
mircea_popescu: the incas carried out considerably longer on that principally because they weren't trying to keep carriers afloat.
decimation: asciilifeform: what does usg have to compel a trade?
asciilifeform: will chug on until the conquistadores show up.
asciilifeform: the incas carried on considerably longer than that...
PeterL: at that point they will need to speed up the presses and hyperinflate out of debt
decimation: the fed will just print more bezzlars and loan them at whatever rate is our choosing
mircea_popescu: sure, it's not a problem. but there's no paying for anything either.
asciilifeform: so usg will move to straight command economy.
decimation: liberals think now, they would say 'that's not a problem'
mircea_popescu: does that include the belgium trololol ?
decimation: well, the way all the 'smart
assbot: Foreign Ownership of U.S. Government Debt Passes $6 Trillion | CNS News ... ( http://bit.ly/19aRhUu )
mircea_popescu: yes, but it's a fairly major player in the financial markets.
mircea_popescu: if the chinese go 8% or fuck you, that's the end of paying. for anything.
mircea_popescu: decimation if the chinese shock the market (putting obama in the position of putin), they won't have what to pay for limo gasoline with.
asciilifeform: decimation: they're working on a smooth transition to straight inca mode
decimation: now, the problem that usg has is that in 30 years, they might not be able to pay for missiles or soldiers
mircea_popescu: let the social studies experts rot in tokyo
mircea_popescu: but that's "why" : let the engineers move to st petersburg.
decimation: I don't think china has the balls to start a missile war with usg
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i would not take either.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: would you take jp? and for what ?
mircea_popescu: it's kinda close to them
mircea_popescu: decimation it has missiles capable of bridging to hawaii just fine.
mircea_popescu: i wonder, which way they;'d go.
decimation: nah, the prc doesn't really have a blue water navy
mircea_popescu: if they do that russia can simply move into poland. or japan.
mircea_popescu: and about 50 to 70% of the rest of the fleet ?
decimation: of course, if they are too poor to pay anyone...
mircea_popescu: lose 6 of the 10 aircraft carriers ?
decimation: I don't think the us military would give up hawaii without an actual war
asciilifeform: another factor is that the 'middle kingdom' has yet to invent the modern military golden toilet.
mircea_popescu: decimation if they're going to be a bitch they might as well suck the shorter, better paying cock.
mircea_popescu: ask anyone working for military tech, they'll tell you 2/3 to 90% of the chinese performance is due to "Stable financing"
decimation: if they became 'independent' they would just become someone else's bitch
decimation: hilariously, the actual hawaiian islands are 100% dependent on usg military, etc for income
mircea_popescu: decimation they could get it next year if they cared enough.
decimation: well, if they have the patience to wait 100 years they might get it
PeterL: decimation: next bombing of Pearl Harbor comes from the east?
mircea_popescu: that's clearly drawing to an end, yeah.
decimation: there has been 'debate' for years on whether the 'native hawaiians (korean slaves)' should be considered 'indians' and given bezzlars
mircea_popescu: you know they want it. you know they could actually get it.
assbot: China threatens to arm Hawaii separatists who want kingdom - Washington Times ... ( http://bit.ly/19aQvqA )
decimation: speaking of predictions: I predict that hawaiians will be considered 'official indians' and be put on the bezzle dole http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/feb/10/china-threatens-arm-hawaii-separatists-who-want-ki/
mircea_popescu: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/16/Flag_of_Adygea.svg < yeah that.
mircea_popescu: the traditionally highest priced white chicks in arab slave markets
mircea_popescu: how the fuck do you call these people in english anyway ?
PeterL: mircea_popescu: but this sentiment is not reflected in the US press
mircea_popescu: PeterL this would be the general sentiment.
asciilifeform has blood relations there, ditto
PeterL: I have a friend from Crimea, he still has family there, says they are all grateful to Putin for saving them from the fate of the rest of Ukraine
asciilifeform: kiev 'idea' was 'let's shell'em a bit and they'll pack up to ru, then we get cities, factories that we had no part in building, gratis, free of ru speakers, we can settle in our west ua orcs'
mircea_popescu: (if anyone's going send me a coupla cherchez chicks too)
mircea_popescu: perhaps because of all the derpage about "women slave markets in the middle east"
mircea_popescu: i dunno dude, i seem to have missed the 500 headlines a day about how kiev is atrocious.
asciilifeform: anyone who gives a fuck can get a live video feed of the 'fun'
mircea_popescu: but somehow the us propaganda machine seems to have never heard of this.
asciilifeform: via shellings, rather than gasenwagen, but quite deliberately
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i know. i'm the one with the intel.
mircea_popescu: it's like the loser husband with a smal penis - always beats the wife.
mircea_popescu: i have never known of a militaristic regime that was frustrated in the field / widely inept military that didn't start massacring civillians.