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asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: imho time spent on 0.9.x other than mining for zoological data (mutilations, fixes) is wasted
decimation: mircea_popescu: maybe if we give them everything they will accept our love?
herbijudlestoids: 0.5.3 being the last version that -assets finds acceptable?
asciilifeform: herbijudlestoids: the basic idea, if i dare suggest that there is one, is a pedigreed 0.5.3 and a sequence of man-readable patches, signed by folks known to one another.
mircea_popescu: decimation i think it's just perverse masochism. self hating liberal white people finally found an empire of nationalistic chinese froggies that despise foreigners.
thestringpuller: trying to push upgrades
BingoBoingo: herbijudlestoids: I dare you to try a makefile for 0.9.3 on FreeBSD that doesn't lean on the linux emulation layer
thestringpuller: they are still pushing that fork on some level
mircea_popescu: but i mean this quite literally. scam foundation tried to push a bitcoin fork.
decimation: mircea_popescu: perhaps usg is desperate for china to become big enough so that usg can surrender to it
asciilifeform: herbijudlestoids: there is also a phoundation pushing crock'o'shit
asciilifeform: herbijudlestoids: this is the actual foundation
mircea_popescu: no, this is the nonfork foundation.
herbijudlestoids: oh, is this the fork foundation?
assbot: ..::[ The Bitcoin Foundation ]::.. ... ( http://bit.ly/1AyGpur )
BingoBoingo: herbijudlestoids: http://thebitcoin.foundation/ ben_vulpes and mod6 run the thing
mircea_popescu: his name's china, and the us can't even mention what he asks of her. let alone consider what to say.
decimation: I'm sure that there were 'conditions' on the 'sale' (what do you call it when you give money to someone in exchange for impoverishing you?
mircea_popescu: decimation if you review the us foreign policy, it can't escape your notice that the us is playing exactly the role of one of the classical woman in love : will pretend like she's a priss to all comers, except there's one she will literally eat the shit from.
herbijudlestoids gets right on that :/
herbijudlestoids: yeah, being QA for the bitcoin foundation sounds fun...
BingoBoingo: herbijudlestoids: You have jails you can build variations and see if they sync
decimation: asciilifeform: it kind of surprised me that usg allowed ibm to sell their fab actually
BingoBoingo: herbijudlestoids: In the 30GB's
herbijudlestoids: BingoBoingo: how stupid large is the blockchain right now? a billion gigabytes?
assbot: There is nothing new in the world. Except for the history you didn't know. | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1AyFWIv )
BingoBoingo: herbijudlestoids: If you want to play around with the foundation's 0.5.3.1 builds on FreeBSD they'd probably welcome it
herbijudlestoids: yea i did read some rants from you on trilema about that mircea_popescu
asciilifeform: decimation: the orbital nukes - do.
decimation: but leo is child's play compared to van allen belts & beyond
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Toilet pays. If volume and not weight is the concern though Osmium box.
asciilifeform: decimation: difference is that those ^ don't actually need to work
herbijudlestoids: TFW the USD spazzes out and causes bitcoin to drop from >1000 to <150
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids tons of things. qntra.net took over the business of bitcoin news. gavin has been shot in the head, foundation's over, bitcoin "development" past 0.5.x is being considered for deletion
decimation: asciilifeform: well, there are loads of silly-con valley satellite 'startups' that are launching plain arm chips into leo
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: who pays for launching the lead ?
asciilifeform: but this is a hatephact
asciilifeform: phun phact: radhard ic is quite arguably obsolete - similar effect can be had using tandems
decimation: asciilifeform: well, some elder thought it was smart
asciilifeform: decimation: you can probably guess that they didn't do it because 'smart', but because eternal contracts signed, likely, five or six presidents ago
decimation: the problem with keeping things alive on bezzlars is that there's always a runt who will squeal if not on the tit
BingoBoingo: <Namworld> Damn, I need to use gpg to log in here now? Gribble not enough anymore? << Gribble was down too long and nanotube's vacation was long enough for people to worry about abduction
decimation: of course they are
asciilifeform: decimation: their competitors are now whining, 'we want too!111!!!11'
asciilifeform: decimation: there was a scandal that broke not long ago, where it came out that usg is single-handedly keeping a number of fabs (mostly rad-hard stuff) in business
decimation: asciilifeform: the only possibility is that usg is buying vanity products
herbijudlestoids: just like the gud old days
herbijudlestoids: actually, in one sense it is *TOO* big, and i got tired of working on it all day, so for hobby i now admin my own freebsd server with jails
herbijudlestoids: im in charge of ops, but my counterpart is in charge of the dev stuff
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah and then compare to similar pile of arm chips
mircea_popescu: yeah, so what's the plan, sell to microshit for 100mn in a year or two once they decide to beef up that biz ?
asciilifeform: decimation: calculate what each unit would have to cost, approximately, for the vendor to stand any chance of breaking even
herbijudlestoids: deployment tools, config mgmt, automated service discovery etc
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: yeah. but we also develop IP as we go around that ops stuff
asciilifeform: decimation: they can claim whatever they like
decimation: apparently they have some chip with 16 cores at 8 'threads' each
decimation: no, they claim to still be doing r&d
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids that part i can see. so more like ops consulting for iaas ppl ?
asciilifeform: decimation: 7000 sold/yr is not 'continued production' on the planet i live in
herbijudlestoids: the big providers pay us lots of money to make their clouds gud
Namworld: Damn, I need to use gpg to log in here now? Gribble not enough anymore?
mircea_popescu: not up to you.
mircea_popescu: this is a noble goal, but a little like pron studios claiming the same.
herbijudlestoids: so there is no herbicloud
herbijudlestoids: we dont compete in the race to bottom
mircea_popescu: decimation on top of that lol
mircea_popescu: you telling me you can actually eke a living in such a market ?
mircea_popescu: i don't get it, there's literally an ocean of providers of this stuff.
asciilifeform: aha timesharing
mircea_popescu: did your burn rate finally catch up with the funding ?
herbijudlestoids: i came to check yall behaving
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, but in the wot, not in the world.
asciilifeform: thought this was about annihilated scientific fields
mircea_popescu: this is about me going "gtfo" to tim swanson while he derps about how "normal debates work".
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not particularly sad. the point ios for us to know syphilitic whore is syphilitic, not for her to not get laid anymore.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the "trading" fo shitty altcoins for inexisting bitcoin is the most important part of the altcoin pumping scams.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: sad thing is, idiots denied apa/ietf/international association of bloodletting & phlogiston - will reinvent them..
BingoBoingo: bitcoin-qt is seriously just chilling now. was getting killed by malloc every half hour and now isn't even touching the line that killed it earlier.
mircea_popescu: can't be arsed to fix the thing, can be arsed to ban evade. very fucking smart.
mircea_popescu: this includes the IETF as well as it includes the AMA.
mircea_popescu: this, incidentally, is why no us pseudoscientific body can be taken seriously to any purpose. especially not to the purpose it supposedly serves.
mircea_popescu: Medicine, or the APA, can legitimately express a policy only if the policy was grounded in science or logic. Perhaps the APA cares to release this intriguing scientific data? (While it is at it, perhaps it can also release the data supporting the use of half of the medications currently favored by APA Guidelines?) But this seems pretty much business as usual for the APA. Rather than work on its own serious failings,
mircea_popescu: What if the NFL came out against antidepressants in children? This is a perfectly valid analogy, because neither the NFL nor psychiatry have special knowledge that make their statements anything more than opinions. What do psychiatrists know about same-sex marriage that the quarterback for the Patriots doesn’t? Don’t laugh—I’m serious. What’s the answer?
mircea_popescu: suited to answering these questions than, say, the NFL.
mircea_popescu: And no, there isn't a difference between bankruptcy and gay marriage-- not to psychiatry. That's the point. These are social problems about which modern psychiatry is definitionally ignorant. The APA did not endorse polygamy. What's the difference? If homosexuality is not a psychiatric disorder, than there is no more reason to be more for or against it than there is for any other kind of marriage. The APA is no better
mircea_popescu: You can't get away with pat answers, such as psychiatrists see the psychiatric ramifications of discrimination or being unable to marry. There are psychiatric ramifications of bankruptcy, and war, but no one felt compelled to write a policy statement on it (and thank God.)
mircea_popescu: "Remember how in May, 2005, the American Psychiatric Association endorsed same sex marriage? And you applauded the moral fortitude and progressive instinct of this august body? Well, instead of debating whether there should or should not be same-sex marriage, perhaps we should ask what modern psychiatry could possibly contribute to this discussion. The answer is nothing.
Adlai despairs of ever writing fiction... the truth beats anything he can dream up himself
Adlai: "We noticed the hot wallets dwindling but assuming it was members moving their funds off site during the DDOS, we loaded all the cold balances onto the site so that users would not have withdrawals interrupted during our periods of up time."
asciilifeform: just astonishing that 2011 never ends
asciilifeform: or wait, they had btc too ?
asciilifeform: 'The altcoin exchange Excoin has announced that it will soon shut down after alleging that an attacker was able to withdraw all the bitcoins from the exchange. With a trading engine written in Go, Excoin launched what was predominantly a Blackcoin exchange...' << in other news, some animal stole the heap of shit a fox deposited in my yard.
assbot: Excoin Exchange To Shut Down Amid Claims Of Theft | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1AyATYG )
asciilifeform will show the next attempt at a proper fix reasonably soon.
asciilifeform is not at all interested in running infinitely-memcancerous bitcoind nor can recommend it to others. but also cannot recommend the experimental patch.
thestringpuller: i used mod6 's script to do download/compilation
BingoBoingo not burning bastards, also has not come the slightest bit close to the old RAM limit since implementing new one.
thestringpuller: damn this shit grinds to a halt as the blocks get bigger.
thestringpuller: mod6: it stopped responding to get_info or at least it looks like it's hanging
BingoBoingo: Background is Memorial Union at Mizzou, built in the days every public uni campus in USia was built in memorian falen soldiers of the franz fredinand police action against germany