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Adlai: also nitrous isn't
that cheap
mircea_popescu: it's kinda illogical
to
tell me you actually
think billions of gallos of heavy duty intoxicant are being sold otc all over
the world.
Adlai: or rather,
the n2 high is
the most common one, by faaaaar
Adlai: it's kinda illogical for n2
to get you high
nubbins`: "actually,
take
the word 'like' out of
there"
nubbins`: Adlai i can recall
trying
to explain
to someone what it's like being put
to sleep by "gas" when in
the hospital
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes but in any case, it probably happens even rarely-er
to slavegirls.
nubbins`: why did
this man feel
that
taking 400mcg of LSD, alone, in a rowboat, in
the middle of a lake, in nepal, was a good idea?
Adlai: the cock wagging
the hand?
nubbins`: actually i guess i can do
this myself right on
the page
jurov: almost all alternative cancer
treatments i saw had some emdee face from
the US attached
nubbins`: "Have you ever
traveled, beyond all mere metaphors,
to
the Mountain of Shame and stayed for a
thousand years? I do not recommend it."
ben_vulpes: "Why, he will be castigated by
the authority, cast out by
the other doctors, and no longer be able
to call himself a doctor." << rarely happens in
the ussa, but
this place is a hellhole.
assbot: This is why medicine is not a liberal profession, but a servile career pe
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Adlai likes mckenna's "If
the words 'life, liberty, and
the pursuit of happiness' don't include
the right
to experiment with your own consciousness,
then
the Declaration of Independence isn't worth
the hemp it was written on."
jurov: -query
thestringpuller
nubbins`: "I can
think of no right more fundamental
than
the right
to peacefully steward
the contents of one’s own consciousness."
Adlai left out
the part about sam doing
this on a rowboat in a nepalese lake
Adlai: "I ingested 400 micrograms of LSD. I was
twenty years old and had
taken
the drug at least
ten
times previously. What could go wrong?" lol
Adlai: or,
to bastardize sam harris, 1000 years at
the Mountain of Shame
nubbins`: that'd buy you between one and
three beers at a bar, depending on your
tolerance for seediness
PeterL: so I just applied for a job at a company,
their hr is handled by SilkRoad.com , made me lol
nubbins`: $15 a
tab seems
to be dark-market standard
these days
Adlai: "Interestingly,
the $10/100mcg price is approximately what
the research chemical firm Sigma-Aldrich charges (Product Link). I'm guessing
the main expense is regulatory compliance. $1 for
the chemicals, $99 for filling out NIDA paperwork."
danielpbarron: it's not unlike
those "asic" chips where
they would burn part of
the board off
to make
the lower end version
nubbins`: but yeah, straight up,
the actual cheapest drug
to produce once you're set up
nubbins`: actually maybe
that was
their wholesale rate
Adlai: the price of lsd is an interesting
topic, given
that once you pass some rather priceless hurdles,
the actual cost of producing a kilo of
the stuff is epsilon
nubbins`: (c) it was underpriced
to begin with
nubbins`: it's
twice
the cost of
the late 90s/early 00s
nubbins`: now when you buy LSD from a guy off
the street, it's actually LSD.
Adlai: yknow, reagents existed even before
the internet itself
nubbins`: because it
turns out people are perfectly willing
to buy 2-5i-NBOMe.
nubbins`: and people stop misrepresenting what
they're selling.
nubbins`: then SR comes around and
there's a category for LSD and a category for NBOMe
danielpbarron: that is exactly how
the scam works ^ : kids
these days have no idea what LSD is supposed
to be like
nubbins`: always sold as LSD, because who
the fuck wants
to buy something called 2-5i-NBOMe?
nubbins`: for
the better part of a decade, NBOMe was
the ONLY "acid" you could get on
the street.
nubbins`: active at very low doses -- enough
to fit on blotter -- and similar enough
to LSD
that
those who hadn't dosed before could mistake it for
the real
thing
nubbins`: in 2006, 2-5I-NBOmE or however
the fuck it's spelled was created
nubbins`: danielpbarron now here's an interesting
thing.
nubbins`: Adlai i mean
the RCs on SR were mostly fake.
nubbins`: "i
think i can feel it coming on"
Adlai: they're not fake, you can buy
them straight from
the lab
Adlai: bulk research chems were sold on
the open internet long before sr existed
nubbins`: nevermind
that most of
those were undoubtably fake.
danielpbarron: when i found out
the kids were buying bulk research chems,
that was
too much for me
nubbins`: kept young white kids outta
the hard parts of
town
nubbins`: it was DESIGNED for
the petty stuff.
danielpbarron: hey i
totally agree; silkroad was perfect for
the petty stuff
nubbins`: Adlai "ideally"
the first
time someone buys weed from you,
they're not a repeat customer
Adlai: get cheated, find a new stranger. but
this is far from perfect
nubbins`: 1) hit up
the park and ask
the hippies 2) hit up
the alley and ask
the sketchbag 3) pop on SR and purchase from a
trusted vendor with a list of ratings
Adlai: ideally
the promise of repeat business would keep
them honest
nubbins`: suppose you moved
to a new city and you wanna get lifted
nubbins`: <+nubbins`> it's just as moronic for someone
to move a kilo of cocaine on a dark market as it is for someone
to buy a personal amount of pot from a stranger, in person.
BingoBoingo: Or you
tattoo he shortchanges onto his forehead in
the back of a van.
danielpbarron: it's not so risky asking a stranger for pot where I live; recreational amount is just a
ticketable offense
these days
nubbins`: because
there's nowhere i can "leave a rating" in meatspacethat will follow him around?
nubbins`: generally
the purchaser in a face-to-face
transaction is at a distinct disadvantage.
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: Well
the risk for
the in person personal weed deal is functional. It keeps everyone honest.
nubbins`: that
the
two activities carry significantly differing levels of risk is worth noting, but
this point aside,
they're equally nonsensical.
nubbins`: it's just as moronic for someone
to move a kilo of cocaine on a dark market as it is for someone
to buy a personal amount of pot from a stranger, in person.
nubbins`: consider: what is every dark market currently selling as
their #1 product?
nubbins`: that
this sort of
thing directly led
to its demise is no coincidence
nubbins`: its purpose was never, ever
to do something as ludicrous as move a kilo of cocaine
nubbins`: also FWIW i
think mp et al precisely misunderstood
the function of silk road
nubbins`: BingoBoingo:DPR, literally
the guy who wasn't good enough
to sling dope as a profession <<< if he'd stuck
to website admin, his actual job, he'd prolly still be out
there
nubbins`: *:asciilifeform wonders if he's
the only fella here who has never rage-smashed a keyboard, pNohe, pNablet, ..., etc <<< i rage-smashed a set of folding binoculars at around age 8, broke
the little compass on
top. wept bitterly at
the loss, resolved
to only smash
things i didn't value from
then on
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: My naive understanding is
that older client just see it as noise. Like
the multisig stuff.
BingoBoingo: I can't
tell what if anything it is holding
BingoBoingo: I
think it is pretending
to be a boulder
to get down a slope
mike_c: i want
that
to be cute but i can't
tell if
there's a death struggle going on.
hdbuck: danielpbarron yea i like
that article, read it already when it came out, anway gotta go,
thanks for
the heads up. ++
danielpbarron: "I remember a
time when
those barely visible bumps around August 2012 and February 2013 filled
the whole screen with
their rollercoaster-y appearance. I remember
that
time because I was
there and saw it, but
to anyone looking
today
they don't matter and could as well have never existed.
This will happen again, in
the future."
assbot: Things
that matter
these days ;
things
that don't matter
these days. pe
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hdbuck: eh,
thats just stating
the obvious. not
that anyone could do anything about it. cycle of life.
danielpbarron: "When a small majority* of participants behave irresponsibly however
the net result is not just pain
to
their own fortunes, but pain spread across
the board. All of a sudden you have
to be very intelligent, and very experienced, and very well informed
to manage
to keep your money safe, and often enough even
that's not going
to suffice."
hdbuck: anyhow if
that helps i’ll gladly plug back in my antminers
to mine ‘mpcoins’ ^^