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gribble: The20YearIRCloud was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 10 weeks, 3 days, 22 hours, 58 minutes, and 55 seconds ago: <The20YearIRCloud> Big thing has been to have em look over all the financial documents as we're filing taxes for 2014 next month and I didn't want to submit till they had a good idea of it.
thestringpuller: ;;seen The20YearIRCloud
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Adlai: "I have to get back to work, have a nice end of days!" - Jesus 2.0
felipelalli: I have to back to work, have a nice end of day guys!
felipelalli: why only you online today?
ascii_field: no boobie trap needed
ascii_field: BingoBoingo: simple triangulation
BingoBoingo: Stallman was right about those
ascii_field: it's one of those faux loopholes that's really a honeypot
ascii_field: BingoBoingo: once you turn said pNohe on from your home, it may as well be registered to your face
NewLiberty: I almost became 'unbanked' this week. I've had >10 accounts terminated by banks this year. It seems with the latest guidance from the Fed, banks categorize 'precious metal dealers' in the same bin as 'arms traders' and 'ponzi operators'.
ascii_field: BingoBoingo: try buying one for 100k
danielpbarron: well you can buy them but you can't activate them
ascii_field: can't pay rent with them, either
ascii_field: ah and on the subject of gift cards, you can't buy them in usa without gov. id
ascii_field: but i for one can more easily comprehend how to move to ar and learn to be a shoemaker or ocelot-walker or whatever, than turning into one of the above
ascii_field: and yes there are many folks in usa who run on cash
ascii_field: suggesting that there is a substantial '2) ?????' in the path to '3) profit!!11!!!'
ascii_field: NewLiberty: that's precisely the observation i was making: there is no one who has found it worth his while to solve the problem for others
NewLiberty: If there were more with the problem ic could be 'worth it' to you to solve it for yourself and others.
ascii_field: -that- is what it means to 'go outside wot'
ascii_field: with all the usual sequelae.
ascii_field: danielpbarron: that is.. not outside the realm of possibility for me... not that i've made such an inquiry << the odds are that after you were to make two or three such inquiries, you will come across a usg stoolie
ascii_field: suggesting that the combination is 'not thermodynamically favoured' to borrow the chemists' expression
ascii_field: but that the intersection of folks who -have- the problem, and those able to solve it, is thus far zero
ascii_field: not saying that this is an impossible problem to solve
ascii_field: this is not an easy problem if you're talking about something necessarily high-value and non-parcellable
danielpbarron: that is.. not outside the realm of possibility for me... not that i've made such an inquiry
ascii_field: danielpbarron: one you'd trust to have the goods physically protected in the necessary ways ?
ascii_field: danielpbarron: got one you'd trust to buy 100k-usd of factory time ?
danielpbarron: couldn't i just pay a guy a premium to buy it for me?
ascii_field: danielpbarron: lucky fella, must be 100% theorist. i, for one, couldn't even get any of my experimental supplies without using electric fiat
danielpbarron: i could probably get to a non-fiat point; no kids no car no morgage no wives
NewLiberty: Only if they sell anything anywhere for dollars
NewLiberty: libel is the least of the concerns, but one that alone would be sufficient deterrance
ascii_field: because 'av vendors can have problems too'
ascii_field: NewLiberty: nothing to do with libel suites. notice that not one av vendor on the planet has yet fingered usg in the open. regardless of how obvious (e.g., 'stuxnet') the smoking guns.
NewLiberty: Also, plausible deniability for them to avoid making specific enemies. Presumably they like selling things and doing business in jurisdictions where assets can be seized by libelous claims.
ascii_field: (previous thread) if mircea_popescu seriously applied his criteria re: who is 'marginal', #b-a would likely be the #mircea_popescu-kakobrekla-jurov channel instead
ascii_field: picture this call to icann: them: 'who' k: 'nsa. please transfer domain to us'
ascii_field: incidentally, one possible reason for k's use of the fictional name was to streamline the process of getting the c&c domains sinkholed
pete_dushenski annoyed that there's no cross-platform scrabble game that works between desktop and mobile w/o facefuck account
NewLiberty: I don't imagine that they are alone in that effort.
NewLiberty: Yes, the "equation group" are just the ones that have been caught doing it.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well, that's kind of the problem with literature by committee. At some point someone's going to make the thing suck.
NewLiberty: A server has a storage eeprom that the enemy may already have hostage. http://securelist.com/files/2015/02/Equation_group_questions_and_answers.pdf
mircea_popescu: batman no good then.
BingoBoingo: The thing's got like 8 decades of history. Prolly happened several times.
ascii_field: who fed him to the locals
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> i never followed that franchise, but did batman have a vallet / << He did indeed
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: where does the dead usg sysadmin come in? somehow missing it
mircea_popescu: i never followed that franchise, but did batman have a vallet /
mircea_popescu: and again : sean's dead. your argument is therefore invalid.
mircea_popescu: the difference however ? one's nonzero ; the other 0.
ascii_field: not so many warrior monks on the ground in modern world, afaik
mircea_popescu: nothing in principle wrong with either approach, which was the point.
ascii_field: cheaper to knit the transistors than to build organization from scratch out of orphan bachelors
mircea_popescu: there aren't computers that don't depend on their compilers etc.
mircea_popescu: but it does run thompson's code.
ascii_field: a server doesn't have a family the enemy can take hostage
mircea_popescu: " machines are exactly as 'loyal' as their operator is clever and conscientious - men are not."
mircea_popescu: ascii_field the difference isn't there.
thestringpuller: ascii_field: this very much reminds me of aku's mentality in Samurai Jack...
mircea_popescu: the only thing that's blatantly ridiculous is that beck forgot to mention where he got it
mircea_popescu: "Here's one that even The Onion would reject as too blatantly ridiculous: American right-wing radio and TV clown Glenn Beck believes that Sean Smith aka Vile Rat, the EVE Online diplomat who was killed earlier this month during the attack on the US embassy in Benghazi, was actually a CIA agent, relaying communications to his fellow undercover agents at Something Awful." ☟︎
ascii_field: not a guarantee of defeat, sure, but machines are exactly as 'loyal' as their operator is clever and conscientious - men are not.
mircea_popescu: or that schmucky someting awful kid, whatever his name was.
mircea_popescu: well in that sense, clintron "didn't avoid it"
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: seems only way to avoid gasenwagen in this sense is to become BTC version of pablo escobar...
mircea_popescu: as opposed to "get me to think it's my gf"
mircea_popescu: no, like, get them to thing it's their bf.
ascii_field: interact with the girls ?
mircea_popescu: ascii_field see, this is how i distinguish a genius geek from a simple geek : the latter programs computer to interact with him. the former, to interact with the girls.
danielpbarron: oo speaking of which; if you want to knock someone offline for a spell, open up webchat to b-a from their ip :D
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: aren't there still political factors involved calling up senator to deliver shipping container of benjies to you?
mircea_popescu: remember, any systematic weaponry can be turned around the operator.
ascii_field: now we have human flesh in the loop
mircea_popescu: so pick up nomenklatura daughters, have them do it for you.
ascii_field: anyone who buys, say, $50k of gift cert cards in cash, is guaranteed to have some official scrutiny.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: yes. and this one of the very few reliable auto-tipoffs available to the gasenwagen
PeterL: ascii_field: you can take cash into grocery store, exchange for food, neh?
ascii_field: or through anything other than an american bank
ascii_field: at the risk of repeating myself, my rent, for example, is ~2k/mo, and not under any circumstances payable in cash
mircea_popescu: your argument reduces to "i can't make a bottling plant out of a gallon of juice". sure.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field the guy's 11k are NOT a crate of dollars. barely one brick.
pete_dushenski: and the risk of getting jacked for 11k should be zero
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller: then you're dealing with smaller amounts ?
ascii_field: aha. the only thing the hypothetical crate would do is get me moved up a few spots in gassing queue if it got out
thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: "you don't know me yet, but lemme build some trust somehow"
mircea_popescu: ascii_field you're supposed to report it neh ?
danielpbarron: ascii_field, need to launder?
thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: as is the nature of "becoming known" to a plug so you can re-up in the future.
pete_dushenski: sort of shit or get off the pot
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller: seems like this fringes thing is a fence-sitting
ascii_field: for folks who aren't subjects of us, try the mindfuck on for size: if a crate of benjamins were to drop from the sky into my yard, there is literally nothing game-changingly useful that i could do with them
thestringpuller: again I'm only talking about people on fringes of WoT
thestringpuller: danielpbarron: yes exactly! which goes to point mircea_popescu just brought up
mircea_popescu: because why bother, when you can just wail and wait for tit.
mircea_popescu: and pretend all along that "no alternatives exist"