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thestringpuller: i can't stop watching this gif
ben_vulpes: cunts are objects too
mats adds cattle prod to purchase list
mircea_popescu: not bad but why teh panties!
mircea_popescu: but otherwise the css/html difference is not unlike the "food division" and "detergent division" difference at unilever.
ben_vulpes: hah yeah i mean you have to learn 3 different chodes at the same time
mircea_popescu: i explained a little about the difference between imperative and notation, i think she got the gist.
mircea_popescu: you know, for a cult this chan is one of the most diverse places in the world.
ben_vulpes: kinda curious about the complexity
mircea_popescu: nubbins`: what's a young anti-consumerist to do ;/ << shit look at that, "mother earth news" is actually a thing.
mircea_popescu: most common, of course, is spending some time in jail, but hey.
mircea_popescu: inasmuch as i understand it, his chief complaint was, "no criminal empire footprint". easiest way to get into that, from memory, is dating the whores.
jurov: you too mentioned obama daughters and so explicitly
mircea_popescu: "what type of thing".
mircea_popescu: but this is a quantitative discussion and he was making a qualitative challenge
mircea_popescu: nubbins`: you know i took a ninety per cent pay cut two years ago? << you actually made money at some point ?!
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: now *that*s tears. << i met a chick that quit her previous job, is learning to program in html nao.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: what's the equivalent of the 'stop gluttony and exercise' here << start dating whores.
mircea_popescu: i need tp for my punhole.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: just appreciating the pun
mircea_popescu: nubbins`: why do i get the impression [...] << because you're an asshole. just like me.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: danielpbarron: in other news, i got netbsd ramdisk to build. << o hey wd. what was the catch ?
mircea_popescu: you threatenin me ?!
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [] it's really not hard to block. but domestic isps = blockheads. << hurr durr
assbot: NetBSD Documentation: Porting NetBSD to a new ARM SoC ... ( http://bit.ly/17mdhuC )
danielpbarron: asciilifeform, is this the same documentation you've been looking at? -> http://www.netbsd.org/docs/kernel/porting_netbsd_arm_soc.html
decimation: out, that we should think very carefully about eliminating or demonizing genetic engineering."
decimation: "Guest: One, we could feed the world without GMOs; there are other practices that we could follow. So the idea that we are prisoners of this technology I think is something that should be dispelled. On the other hand, I don't think we should try that. I think if our water is precious, if our topsoil is precious, if we really care about the hydrocarbon footprint that we have in terms of the amount of cultivation that we need to carry
decimation: I didn't even know cargill was the biggest private company in the us
decimation: actually the cargill guy was not super-pro gmo
decimation: yeah, the next episode he interviews taleb on gmos
ben_vulpes: decimation: thanks for the econtalk recommendation
jurov: til about the " fresh ready to eat" salads
nubbins` prepares to cheer
jurov: remind me to revisit this back in 10 years ...whether fluffypony will still endorse such changes (or apple at all) by then
decimation: asciilifeform: does this mean you installed on the pogo's nand flash?
danielpbarron: i'm still trying to get that to work
ben_vulpes: because seriously sudo install libs to system?
ben_vulpes: i am tempted to make a vm for this ruby project.
ben_vulpes: dude ruby what the ever loving fuck
decimation wishes to shun nobody, but is somewhat mystified about how to discern between tidbits of data that relate to long-running discussions and 'boring' 'preaching to the choir'
ben_vulpes: shun the nonbeliever.
ben_vulpes: fluffypony: don't disturb the cult!
fluffypony: it becomes a circlejerk when "preaching to the choir" devolves, and here we are
fluffypony: asciilifeform: precisely, but *everyone in this room already knows*
asciilifeform: fluffypony: the pill against coinbase is precisely the same as the one against apple: 'don't do it'
decimation: it's an interesting specimen for folks to study
fluffypony: hey I know, let's complain about how Coinbase is ruining Bitcoin with their centralisation!
fluffypony: and the hate circlejerk is boring
decimation: the world's greatest thing that solves all the problems becomes the 'deprecated feature' 3 years later
decimation: fluffypony: apple has been pulling this kind of thing for decades
danielpbarron: my portugese speaking american samoan born connecticut raised friend apparently had an aunt that owned land in rodesia (phew what a mouth full)
fluffypony: so Apple is saying -shit- about a language, and fuck, it's their language (inasmuch as they're the only ones still using it)
decimation: he's getting kinda old and tired frankly
asciilifeform: last time was in the 2.4 - 2.6 transition, really
decimation: userland is trying to usurp it
asciilifeform: the 'centrally imposed' i was speaking of was the 'apple says -shit-, devs answer -what colour-' one
fluffypony: my mum was born in the then-christened Rhodesia
decimation: but it is understandable why apple would want it on their c-machines
decimation: my original 'lol' was because I see 'centrally imposed' memory management as worse than garbage collection
fluffypony: pity about their moneyh
asciilifeform: now, i get it, damn-near everybody is stuck in his particular gulag. fluffypony, it appears, is sitting in barrack where what-happens-in-apple-os-matters. i'm in one where they use weird zimbabwe money. etc. but being in jail doesn't mean you have to -like- it and deny the existence of outside.
punkman: fluffypony: don't tell us you love systemd now :P
asciilifeform: (short of chimeras in the vein of 'prolog' where anything you cook up is likely to be asking machine np-complete questions)
fluffypony: at the cost of X
fluffypony: the rejection of every abstraction, every high-level language, simply because it makes things slightly easier
asciilifeform: but this is actually a popular hate mail subject
asciilifeform: fluffypony: i can easily see how you might have arrived at this, but you must be ~111th one in a row to think that i like 'old' for sake of old
asciilifeform: android works in much the same way as apple's regime, iirc
fluffypony: sure, GC -> ARC is changing the label on a knob
asciilifeform: requiring everyone to drop everything and 'get into compliance'
asciilifeform: new can be a pleasure if done for some actual reason and not because a monkey changed the label on a knob
asciilifeform: now it isn't on c/unix. that'd require magic tough
fluffypony: yes, let's all decentralise all of the things
fluffypony: API stability != complete API freeze forever, and the same goes for patterns and practices
fluffypony: also their transition doc has a 2013 timestamp, so if developers have taken 2 years to cotton on to changes then wtf, they should choose a different career
fluffypony: decimation: I don't get what's lol about that, .NET faces the same issue (as have many high-level abstractions / languages), whereby trying to force GC collections or modify GC behaviour invariably ends up being messy. Frankly, handing off to a reference counting system is way, way better than GC bullshit.
asciilifeform: for some reason i thought the question was about the 'pink pogo'
danielpbarron: s/black/purple/ they are both black; one has blue logo, other has purple logo, which is removed with the cap that covers sata port
asciilifeform: there's no reason why we can't do an x86 build of this
ben_vulpes: hola trinque
asciilifeform: in the purple unit, that'll necessarily be a usb drive
asciilifeform: nubbins`: i'll just have it probe (and if doesn't find blockchain, format) the largest mass storage device found at boot
nubbins`: asciilifeform this'll work on purple and blue units, yeah?
assbot: Accused British hacker, wanted for crimes in US, won’t give up crypto keys | Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/17FV9LU )
assbot: Mac Apps That Use Garbage Collection Must Move to ARC - News and Updates - Apple Developer ... ( http://bit.ly/17FUEBC )
decimation: lol apple https://developer.apple.com/news/?id=02202015a "Beginning May 1, 2015, new Mac apps and app updates submitted to the Mac App Store may no longer use garbage collection, which was deprecated in OS X Mountain Lion."
asciilifeform: next problem is how to get it to automatically bake into the kernel .ub image during build.
asciilifeform: (the default one. still need to cut unnecessary crud from it)
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: the trick is to run nbmake-evbarm from your TOOLS path, rather than nbmake
danielpbarron: the netbsd ramdisk thing
danielpbarron: asciilifeform> danielpbarron: in other news, i got netbsd ramdisk to build. << yay! in related news, i got some links from a guy in #olimex who tackled this problem back in 2013; haven't checked it out yet / just got back from stocking up for the impending snow storm
decimation: heh that's amusing
asciilifeform: yes, plugged into a jack in the back
asciilifeform: consider also that the 'connection machine' was not usable at all except as an expansion plug-in to a symbolics lispm
asciilifeform: iirc not a single such machine sold to anyone but usg or a directly usg-funded org.
decimation: yeah, it sounded to me like he was mostly helping to 'sell' the machines to academic types
asciilifeform: but iirc all that is publicly known about his work there, is in that piece.
decimation: also the link that ben_vulpes dropped about feynman working at thinking machines was interesting. I didn't know he worked there
decimation: well, certainly it could be the case that the compiler is untrustworthy, but much higher on my list of concerns is that some combination of new-jersey syscalls I'm using in my code will stab me in the back