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asciilifeform used to have a 'subaru'
pete_dushenski: saving the volvo idea for later ?
thestringpuller: all these unicode characters!
asciilifeform: had to issue pet new box.
asciilifeform: and couldn't be arsed to take the mobo out beforehand
asciilifeform: bottom is molten slag because i tried the traditional hot air reflow machine repair method
pete_dushenski: thx for the offer though
asciilifeform: (it being the original series)
asciilifeform: sadly it's the former.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform ok, so here's the air display situation: if you have the 1280x800 screen, i'm out of luck, if you have the 1440x900 then we're good!
pete_dushenski: i have an old apple box or two that is blue mooning
asciilifeform: somehow this is simply not done...
asciilifeform: i'm actually the only person i know who keeps an apple box 'for testing xxxx on apple once in a blue moon' without sitting on it all the time
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform danke for the offer at least!
asciilifeform: but lcd ought to work
asciilifeform: itching to get rid of that thing to good use, it's cluttering up my machine shop
mircea_popescu: http://41.media.tumblr.com/40c900a0b6e296ee104f65275903124f/tumblr_ncoltiHwzR1rdc5oto1_400.jpg << anyone know that signature ?
pete_dushenski: i think a new screen will run about 200 for this air
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asciilifeform: looked like a botulismed tin can
pete_dushenski: the screen on this 'air' is already mroe borked than us science
pete_dushenski: and while the new stuff is faster, it certainly isn't built to last
asciilifeform: and thereby know
asciilifeform: i'm friends with several folks like that in meatspace
asciilifeform: iirc pete_dushenski is a hereditary apple user, ought to deeply grok this ^
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform:it's about the get-the-microshit-out-of-my-fucking-face-i-dont-care-what << now, as ever
mircea_popescu: but who in the 60s said the same ?
mircea_popescu: hegel and shaw were great friends of the third reich,
mircea_popescu tries real hard to imagine the next generation shamir putting to paper the 'friend of the us' string.
asciilifeform: 'we don't need no stinking jew crypto here in the reich'
pete_dushenski: us just wants to bury its head in the sand
mircea_popescu: "why get now for free what you won't be able to afford later on ?!?!?!!?"
mircea_popescu: "As a friend of the US I am deeply worried that if you continue to delay visas in such a way, the only thing you will achieve is to alienate many world-famous foreign scientists, forcing them to increase their cooperation with European or Chinese scientists whose countries roll the red carpet for such visits. "
mircea_popescu: In my humble opinion, we are heading toward a disaster, and I have heard many people, among them our top scientists, saying that they are not willing anymore to visit the US, and collaborate with American scientists, because of the difficulties.
asciilifeform: 'In July 2013 I told the NSA-affiliated conference organizers that I was having some problems in getting my visa, and gently asked whether they could do something about it. Always eager to help, the NSA people leaped into action, and immediately sent me a short email written with a lot of tact: “The trouble you are having is regrettable…Sorry you won’t be able to come to our conference. We have submitted our program and
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mircea_popescu: mebbe we should ask adlai to pay him a visit ? do an interview for qntra
asciilifeform never saw shamir alive and doesn't expect to, iirc he was perma-banned from usa
asciilifeform: in 'twinkle', you just have a led in each and a phototransistor on top.
mircea_popescu: is shamir still working on those light machines ? ☟︎
asciilifeform: in a von neumann machine, you'd have to individually address and ask each cell what its output is, to take the sum, like a total idiot
asciilifeform: (i'm nearly certain we did these here)
asciilifeform: back to thread, momentarily, before i nod off to sleep; certain problems (i dare say most of the 'big ones') in algorithms magically dissipate when you burn the retarded von neumann thing
mircea_popescu: sort-of ? that's proper break
asciilifeform: does the string 'spaghetti sort' occur in it ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: look at the result
asciilifeform: where you can determine precisely what objects are live simply by... forming electric circuit (yes) from the root node
asciilifeform: i'll add that neither 'mark and sweep' (stop-the-world in its basic form) nor 'reference counting' are necessary on a dataflow machine
asciilifeform: 'stop the world' is also called 'semispace'
asciilifeform: literally, like keeping two flats, occasionally taking useful objects from one to the other, then setting off dynamite in the old flat.
asciilifeform: but yes, garbage collection will have a terrible reputation for at least another half century on account of the state-of-the-art half a century ago when john mccarthy invented it, 'stop the world'
asciilifeform: in fact, i dare say it is the only good work on the subject in dead tree.
asciilifeform: the ultimate mega-death-star reference work on the subject is 'garbage collection algorithms for automatic dynamic memory management' (r. jones & r. d. lins)
mircea_popescu: i think you see my point. well "my". porobably the oldest point in computing.
mircea_popescu: so there you go.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: beg to differ. there are very good algos for garbage collection with hard real-time guarantees. they are complicated and i know of no system other than common lisp where they are implemented with any quality.
mircea_popescu: i can follow that logic there. "for ten cents we can't be bothered, write your own damned card"
asciilifeform: c doesn't do the garbage collection thing at all
chatquack: Oh I bet! Sounds tasty though
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so i fail to see how "reference counting" is any sort of anything resembling a solution nor c etc demented for not having it.
mircea_popescu: chatquack i just went through home made cherry brandy, im full up on sweet liquor
asciilifeform: it's about the get-the-microshit-out-of-my-fucking-face-i-dont-care-what
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it isn't about the money. talk to a 30+ year apple user. the kind that stuck to it 'through thick and thin'
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller reddit runs out of 6k a month worth of servers ? impressive if true.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> to avoid winblows. << it could be because they don't givew so much of a shit about the money. if he/she could afford a pointless masters,
asciilifeform: creating eternal turds that never get collected
asciilifeform: mega-lulz when they pop the hood and succeed anyway
asciilifeform: which would be, on such systems, the only means for crafting a self-referential data structure
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but you dunno to begin with wtf data strcutres its gonna have.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller i have no idea what that is. what's a reddit gold ? a dollar ? 2 ? 10 ?
assbot: 3 results for 'fork in the eye' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=fork+in+the+eye
asciilifeform: !s fork in the eye
thestringpuller: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douche_and_Turd << no its essentially having to choose between giant douche or turd sandwich
asciilifeform: would take the thermos smiling
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: are you familiar with giant douche vs turd sandwich?
asciilifeform: i suspect that a sizable majority of apple users, if offered the choice between using winblows and being buggered with a thermos, complete with handle, every night,
asciilifeform: for the record, it is very important to understand why folks put up with this.
asciilifeform: ^ thoroughly typical
asciilifeform: 'My wife got through her Master's on a G3 iBook, and we paid to have its motherboard replaced twice for the same graphics issue, a little over a year apart. Having to pay for the first repair sucked, but sometimes those are the odds. Having to pay to repair it a second time due to identical symptoms a couple of months after the initial repair warranty was up was a kick in the teeth, and was a good indicator that there was some ☟︎
thestringpuller: makes me think of high school. charging that thing each night
thestringpuller: jurov: ah the nightly recharge of the ipod
jurov: i once won a free ipod mini from ibm...that thing recharged longer than played
asciilifeform: on the strength of a reputation that has long been entirely, thoroughly baseless.
asciilifeform: the 'secret' is that *no one* is making quality hardware. but apple is the most egregious sc4mz0r, for continuing to maintain the pretense.
asciilifeform: it was precisely the gpu thing that cured me of the 'omg only apple knows how to make Quality Hardware' (tm)
asciilifeform: and should be sold to coprophagiacs specially labeled.
asciilifeform: if it doesn't - that is to say, doesn't match fucking 1980s state of the art - it's a turd.
asciilifeform: i buy hardware, it is expected to last for 15-20 yrs.
asciilifeform: and the comments on the article are blood-boiling
asciilifeform: whatdidjathink, they'd run a one-off with leaded solder just for you?
asciilifeform: they give you a board with the same ticking bomb
asciilifeform: and the repairs -are a scam-
asciilifeform: the apple gpu thing is a true plague
jurov: ;;later tell mike_c most qntra shares in coinbr custody was claimed and afaik sold already. And I promised 14 day delivery of the rest on request, so prolly not what you want
asciilifeform: jurov: last i checked, they are already able to buy coffee, lol
jurov: thestringpuller: MPEx may one day allow redditards to buy coffee << lawl
asciilifeform: hence the david moon anecdote.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: reference counting... [david moon tale] ...but sure, it'd be great if it worked << there are quite a few systems which used reference-counting in garbage collector (other than in the demented c++ and apple systems, it is generally used in a garbage collector to determine 'what's garbage?'.) appears in, e.g., wolfram's 'mathematica.' down side: cannot have circular data structures.
asciilifeform: usually a month or two after warranty expiration.
asciilifeform: i had half a dozen die in precisely this way on my watch.