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mircea_popescu: what was this based on, "Fewest fat fucks" ?
BingoBoingo: The countries with the healthiest diets overall were: 1. Chad 2. Sierra Leone 3. Mali 4. Gambia 5. Uganda 6. Ghana 7. Ivory Coast 8. Senegal 9. Israel 10. Somalia
mircea_popescu: motherfucker, why does everyone want to indemnify the vcs ? they're absolutely the only guilty party in all this.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: The list is all African countries.
mircea_popescu: "Regarding the VCs, I would give them the benefit of the doubt as well. What where they pitched?"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> (anybody else here take o-chem in school << originally, 9yo me despised ochem, because no great flames like sulphur | potassium chloride etc.
asciilifeform: this is what the clandestine chemists don't always bother with.
asciilifeform: and the remaining filling in the flask, hasn't gone anywhere, but has to be removed somehow.
PeterL: alot of what I was doing the past 3 years involved trying to get %yields higher
PeterL: on some multi-step reactions, think 50% yield 4 times, and you are lucky to have 6% of what you started with
nubbins` adds wheat germ, crushed flax, hempseed, rolled oats to bread
asciilifeform: and hence are more or less stuck with 1840s state of the art
nubbins`: betcha they use white flour with a handful of other grains mixed in
asciilifeform: and not only for dope. in usa restaurants have been selling 'fashionable' multi-grain bread. which i fully expect is made from shavings of cutting other kinds of bread at the bakeries
nubbins`: made from leavings of the coca process
nubbins`: asciilifeform when i was in colombia, there was a byproduct called "bazouk" or similar
asciilifeform: (anybody else here take o-chem in school... other than PeterL and i)
assbot: Revealed: the countries with the best and worst diets in the world - Health News - Health & Families - The Independent ... ( http://bit.ly/1AnH69o )
chetty: and todays propaganda prize goes to: http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/revealed-the-countries-with-the-best-and-worst-diets-in-the-world-10057363.html
asciilifeform: hence for every type of -synthetic- (vs. refined from vegetation) dope, there is at least one 'krokodilian' variant where the folks making it didn't see it fit to bother with this detail.
asciilifeform: some of the costliest operations in traditional pharma industry are recrystallizations/purifications
asciilifeform: the basic concept, as PeterL (chemist?) will attest, is that a synthesis doesn't necessarily (and most often) produce only one thing. each step will result in one or more unwanted substances, including everything that failed to react in previous steps
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nubbins`: BingoBoingo :0 i guess the chili powder will work about as well as the eyedrops, then
asciilifeform: 'the only winning move is: not to play'
BingoBoingo: <nubbins`> except you don't inject meth into your bloodstream << Sometimes actually used in this manner
asciilifeform: or rather, the answer from the film 'war games'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: to which there is no answer
mircea_popescu: "what should i get for this weekend, meth or krok ?!~?!?!"
mircea_popescu: methinks the consumer has a legitimate question
mircea_popescu: "So what the hell do we buy now? HP's quality has hit rock bottom and is starting to dig, Lenovo is doing their best to destroy the Thinkpad brand, Asus is incapable of making a device without at least one fatal flaw... is Apple the only one making laptops that aren't garbage anymroe?"
nubbins`: something along the lines of the "chili powder" meth in breaking bad
nubbins`: asciilifeform definitely was not an ingredient in the reaction they were trying to make occur.
nubbins`: the krokodil doc is gross enough to distract from it
nubbins`: "now we add the eye drops" "why?" "makes it stronger"
asciilifeform: fact is, every modern product 'for the poor' is a kind of krokodil
mircea_popescu: nubbins` yeah i totally want to hear what vice has to say o.O
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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: my impression is that it isn't. just a very marginal synthesis with the byproducts left in, with various grotesque 'zombie' aesthetic of decaying user. makes up in sensationalism for what lacks in actual 'epidemiology.'
nubbins`: there's a short Vice documentary on it, if you can stand to watch
nubbins`: mircea_popescu seems like meth in the usa -- cheap, so poor destitute people in poor destitute towns love it
mircea_popescu: is this krokodil thing actually as widely used as teh "horrors in russia" ussa press makes it sound /
nubbins`: OH WAIT THEY DIDN'T
asciilifeform: not because harder to synthesize, but because not a performance-enhancer that sets one going strong in the kitchen thinking of new methods
nubbins`: and all the addicts just vanished
nubbins`: until they took oxycontin off the market
nubbins`: no krokodil here, too many prescription opiates to abuse
asciilifeform: nubbins`: when opiates took off, the approach failed
mircea_popescu: yeah but you two aren't really people. you're in here.
nubbins`: that's what they're cooking at home these days
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: no idea. the woman - cooks
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mircea_popescu: "oh, its a recession" "learned how to cook yet ?" "wut?!?!?!"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform got as better question for you. why do us dumb broads not switch to cooking at home ?
nubbins`: well, shitty dope doesn't have that, but if you spritz it with saline...
asciilifeform: (the first popular dope in ussr was what is today called meth, but there was no market in the usual sense. folks who took it, usually made it)
mircea_popescu: and speaking of which... everyone i suppose is familiar with the otherworldly beauty of potassium permanganate ?
nubbins`: y'know how good dope has that covered-in-crystal look from all the resin-y trichomes?
asciilifeform: i've always wondered why american dope aficionados don't follow the 1980s soviet example and all switch to making (or at least refining) what they use personally
nubbins`: reminds me of the time SWIM bought some adulterated marijuana
mircea_popescu: anyway, clean gets you rid of all the stupid shit, anti worm medicine, drywall, w/e the fuck
nubbins`: anyway, worth noting that most recording musicians who tried heroin produced some of their best work while in the depths
nubbins`: to the point where a dose lethal in another man will maybe stop their headache.
nubbins`: opiate users can reach terrifically high levels of tolerance
asciilifeform: aha this is specific to opium
asciilifeform: they take their customary dose, having lost the tolerance
nubbins`: asciilifeform some of my favourite musicians died this way
mircea_popescu: but that's heroin.
asciilifeform: nubbins`: opiate users typically od, paradoxically, after successfully quitting and then doing a bit again 'for old time's sake'
nubbins`: this is why the purity of coke will not rise
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform actually the most common circumstance-driven attack is, older sedentary white male goes out to shovel snow.
nubbins`: but it looks the same
nubbins`: asciilifeform: now imagine today's exercise/shit/dirt pile is at 100% (or even 80%) strength instead of 20%
asciilifeform: nubbins`: folks also have heart attacks in exercise, in the shitter, while shovelling dirt, etc.
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mircea_popescu: what was that needle made out of, neutronium ?
nubbins`: but for srs, people have heart attacks on coke all the time
nubbins`: hence her heart stopping, 3 stabs to chest, etc
nubbins`: that the girl snorted as coke
nubbins`: mircea_popescu that was actually a bag of white heroin :D
mircea_popescu: actually iirc pulp fiction revolves around guy getting a proper bag and dumb ho hitting it as if it were the stuff she normally gets in clubs
nubbins`: because i know for a fact that he didn't
nubbins`: do you think that guy even googled "can you snort glucosamine" before cutting his stash?
nubbins`: mircea_popescu pure being the only thing around is safest, sure.
nubbins`: asciilifeform you don't need schooling to make crack
mircea_popescu: nubbins` pure is the safest by far.
nubbins`: someone who isn't me has witnessed dealers receive new shipment, open bag, set several spoonfuls aside for sef, then dump 8-10 tbsp of random white in there
asciilifeform: it is, as i understand, a severe taboo among them, to sell it undiluted
mircea_popescu: "dealers" doesn't mean what it used to mean 30 years ago.
mircea_popescu: eh get out. they won't tell you this, but a good half of the captured stuff - on the street - is actually pure.
asciilifeform: sorta like asking to have -one- aluminum cd pressed.
asciilifeform: iirc this is not usually possible in small quantity
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i think he're referring to the dilutants
mircea_popescu: i don't think you can confuse cocaine with anything else.
nubbins`: besides, i definitely do not want to snort weightlifting supplements
nubbins`: i like things way too much to justify trying it
nubbins`: also have never tried coke
mircea_popescu: what the fuck is the point of living in wash dc
asciilifeform: nubbins`: the coke 'barons' would be the first to push for 'vaccine' if it had any threat of working
nubbins`: that's gonna hit the glucosamine suppliers where it hurts.