asciilifeform: or the used-condom quality sandisk ?

asciilifeform: srsly yer gonna put intel ssd in a box ?

asciilifeform: also BingoBoingo wtf, they don't sell samsung -- i.e. the only ssd worth using

asciilifeform: 'support' is a joke.

asciilifeform: TomServo: picture trying to ~get~ this support.

asciilifeform: ( granted , i make'em out of a mix of new and used components, like mp makes his bmw fleet . but even so. )

asciilifeform: for comparison, 24core opteron with 256G ram , with 4 ssd disks ( 1TB total , 750 after raid ) , and with the raid card, costs me still < 1700. ☟︎

asciilifeform: 1disk lol

asciilifeform: holyfuq, konsoomer towers in racks in dc

asciilifeform: don't forget, 5k ~pentium4~

asciilifeform: *individually

asciilifeform: these prices make asciilifeform+suitcase+airplane for ~every box indididually~ look cost-effective.

asciilifeform: ^

asciilifeform: supposing the shipments get through -- yes

asciilifeform: i'd even be satisfied with something exactly like BingoBoingo's link httpd but minus the nulltermed pointeristic string warcrime. (i.e. direct adaization)

asciilifeform: unfortunately.

asciilifeform: trinque: pretty much anything on the existing iron is wartime compromise.

asciilifeform: tcp gives every allcomer a quite-expensive 'something'

asciilifeform: mod6: not, sadly, practical with tcp at all

asciilifeform: !#s postel

asciilifeform: the 'postel's law' nonsense, of silently forgiving people who send liquishit at the dusty disused corners of the protocol, enabling there to even ~be~ such a thing as dusty corners in a protocol!, MUST die. ☟︎☟︎☟︎

asciilifeform: recall malleus ?

asciilifeform: likewise i do not ever want to see FARTs.

asciilifeform: just like you don't want to write fs code that knows what inodes are

asciilifeform: i want to write proggy with zero httpism baked in. is whole point of a library.

asciilifeform: trinque: depends what sorta library neh

asciilifeform: or is this what it all ends up costing after the extortionate tax..?

asciilifeform: is this thing connected through a timewarp into 1990s ?

asciilifeform: 2k for laser printer

asciilifeform: 170 usd for a 20usd label printer, notbad ☟︎

asciilifeform: you don't miss cgi in hunchentoot.

asciilifeform: trinque: that's exactly the kind of thing i wouldn't do. my hypothetical http serv would be strictly for fully adatronic app. like hunchentoot in cl world.

asciilifeform: 1 , the subhuman simian kind, where duct tape is added. other -- when screaming living flesh is removed, as necessary.

asciilifeform: there's 2 kinds of 'fix'

asciilifeform: ( granted this is a bigger bite to swallow ... )

asciilifeform: trinque himself had iirc a good argument for removal of PUT and POST

asciilifeform: trinque: i dun have a replacement, can relax for nao. but would like to know which of the knobs actually do something useful.

asciilifeform: q is, how much can be removed from http and still result in e.g. proper display on typical heathen browser, wget-able tarballs, etc

asciilifeform: i'd like to shoot it behind the shed already.

asciilifeform: and example of just the kind of thing that makes http's designers subhuman

asciilifeform: having to ask the 'did it change' question per-file, is terrifyingly bad design

asciilifeform: 'telegraph office is three doors down'

asciilifeform: 'sorry i only have 1 bit of storage', picture this.

asciilifeform: all protocols require some minimal space to work in.

asciilifeform: there gotta be to hold the http header already.

asciilifeform: this is elementary.

asciilifeform: then it oughta be in sections, and the sections in small manifest. merkle-style. ☟︎

asciilifeform: what other http knobs are there that, despite that neither i nor deedbot nor anything any of us have made , ever use, but somehow essential ??

asciilifeform: something that i actually keep around

asciilifeform: i'm trying to find something that does

asciilifeform: trinque: does rsync rely on HEAD ?

asciilifeform: i dun see why this requires a 'send ONLY the header' special knob to exist.

asciilifeform: well naturally you wouldn't ctrl-c with hands, but break yer connection after you got what you want, i.e. the header

asciilifeform: without loading whole thing

asciilifeform: so you can learn a file size with ordinary GET

asciilifeform: my copy of wget doesn't seem to use HEAD for this, tho. it puts out a GET and simply aborts if you ctrl-c

asciilifeform: and http servers end up 50MB of ???.

asciilifeform: aaaand this is how stateolade gets into 'stateless' protocol

asciilifeform: ditto OPTIONS and other liquishit. ☟︎

asciilifeform: decade+ of reading http log of my www daily, and ~nobody outside of spamchina issues HEAD. ever.

asciilifeform: we don't use it ? it dies. that simple ☟︎

asciilifeform: no srsly

asciilifeform: deedbot's rss doesn't

asciilifeform: trinque: what do we have here that issues HEAD ?

asciilifeform: the http protocol is not the place for manifests.

asciilifeform: if you want to know that file has changed, you update a manifest, and other side fetches that.

asciilifeform: mirroring is to be done the sane way, by fucking loading the file.

asciilifeform: and don't intend to

asciilifeform: i've never written proggy that issues 'HEAD' ☟︎

asciilifeform: trinque: by loading it.

asciilifeform: prolly also other things.

asciilifeform: HEAD requests ☟︎

asciilifeform: 'keep-alive' ☟︎

asciilifeform: mallocism.

asciilifeform: the use of linked lists (wai??)

asciilifeform: ipv6ism

asciilifeform: e.g. directory listing ☟︎

asciilifeform: even in this one, i can already see obvious candidates for snippycutters

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: that's more or less exactly what i was looking for, ty. not to use, of course, but to adaize.

asciilifeform: and imho selling 10+ yr old server, prolly complete with fan dust cake, for 'you must ask for quote!' takes some cheek. ☟︎

asciilifeform: 'how many zeroes can we glue on'

asciilifeform has nfi

asciilifeform: it is also possible that this is one of those orcistans where there is not such a thing as a scrapyard, errything gets picked up by scavengers and reused same day ☟︎

asciilifeform: ( and at any rate oughta have empty cases.. )

asciilifeform: i suspect that it has better boxes than the one linked above

asciilifeform: incidentally, BingoBoingo , have you visited local scrapyard yet ?

asciilifeform: fuck'em

asciilifeform: or lol, 'es necesario registrarse'

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: where is the price on that page ?

asciilifeform: ave1: and plz post the output of gnat -v . ☟︎

asciilifeform: ave1: you see this for all of the invocations ? and 0 speed diff when removing ( not -gnatN, but remove, with sed ) ~all~ of the inline directives ?

asciilifeform brb, teatime

asciilifeform: you can trivially verify the latter by commenting out the Inline param and observing 5-20x speed differential

asciilifeform: AND included as functions

asciilifeform: this is a known bug in 2016, and is a red herring, they still get inlined

asciilifeform: lemme guess, you disasmed the bin and saw them as functions ?

asciilifeform: ave1: tell me how you determined that they were not inlined

asciilifeform: why. did. you. use. this. flag.

asciilifeform: consider answering the question, ave1 ?

asciilifeform: do i misunderstand what ave1's complaint is ?