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thestringpuller: ah. Well he honestly
thinks GPG contracts are failures because
they are
too hard
to use...which is like retard believing he is not retarded.
mats: turns out hes as retarded on a blog as he is on irc and
twitter
mats: i wanted
to see if he had anything useful
to say in a long form medium
mats: i spent
the last
ten mins reading BlueMeanie4's blog
ascii_field: boosts ego
to
the point of making any cooperation hard << wat
thestringpuller: i know
the script kiddies love it, but probably same reason
they defend node.js
mike_c: agreed. i
think rails has
too much black magic
mike_c: turbogears2 looks good
too.. i have some vague memory of not liking sql alchemy for some reason, but
that was awhile ago and i can't remember why.
mike_c: or for webdevs
that don't want
to rebuild every wheel
thestringpuller: django is good for marketing
teams who need
to deploy content fast and don't have IT
jurov: my impression of list is
that it boosts ego
to
the point of making any cooperation hard
ben_vulpes: (oh, and
those "experts" in rails/django/yii/whatever
tend
to swallow wholesale whatever braindamage comes out of
the "community")
mike_c: or,
there's something about
those
that choose lisp..
ben_vulpes: there's something about working in lisp
that seems
to reduce
the speed at which entropy chews apart a webdev project.
mike_c: ok, but i'm not going
to judge by how easy it is
to un-fuck a particular framework done poorly.
ben_vulpes: (most wordprexen are cobbled
together from plugins - not
terrifically difficult
to reason about)
ben_vulpes: miserable django shites made by novices rapidly become very expensive
to reason about.
jurov: ben_vulpes: so everything sucks because idiots can use it
to hang
themselves?
mike_c: idk. noobs will make sites. and
their wordpress blogs will be used in ddos reflection attacks. what can you do.
ben_vulpes: mike_c: keep in mind i'm approaching
this from an empirical perspective.
ben_vulpes: but
the surface area over which
they can make mistakes is vastly limited.
mike_c: so you are just offended by
the offering of something between cojure/ring and wordpress.
jurov: rdbms are easier
that
that
ben_vulpes: the novice's desire
to not learn how relational databases work and how
to leverage
their strengths is damaging
to both
themselves and anyone downhill of
them.
ben_vulpes: while again it can be used well by people who can use it well (intentional
tautology)
ben_vulpes: mike_c: ever
touched a clojure ring app?
jurov: oh,
that.
http is notable for its leaky effects into all higher layers
ben_vulpes: and in
their experiments with object oriented programming create
these insane class hierarchies
that are impossible
to fit into human working memory.
mike_c: and
the alternative is
they build from a microframework and fuck up even more?
ben_vulpes: while
they can all be used well by people who know what
they're doing, most people using
them categorically do not.
jurov: fuck everythign
that moves.
ben_vulpes: fuck django, fuck rails, and probably fuck
turbogears
too.
jurov: pity more people don't use
turbogears2. i have found it quite usable, with documentation uptodate and keeps improving
mats: a buddy of mine uses it only
the daily. moans constantly.
mike_c: what's wrong with django? i bit bloated, but
there's a lot of good code in
there.
mats: django. god help
the one
that accepts
the job.
mike_c: ;;later
tell mthreat is it an index option for periods
to break words?
mike_c: word breaking is different from stemming.
that feels.. wrong. mthreat is it normal for periods
to not break words?
mike_c: not according
to search
PeterL: pete_dushenski:weird
thing is: bablogs.btcscoop.com seems
to have no problem with it << I forgot I had
to do a funny
trick with codecs
to get
that
to work, lets see if scoopbot works now?
ascii_field: kakobrekla: how do -you- normally answer letters from people offering
to 'fix everything
that's wrong' ?
kakobrekla: a friend replied
telling
them he can fix everything
that is wrong, but
they dont want
that.
cazalla: shame you can't
todd gack someone on reddit with a few
thousand satoshi
cazalla: mircea_popescu:
todd gack mysteriously missing. <<< yeah, what sort of name is
that anyway?
ascii_field: electronic equivalent of
toilet
tank cocaine
mircea_popescu: the gays got
their way with marriage prior
to
the freeze, but
that's it. pedos aren't getting
theirs.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: but yes,
the "sexual disorder" of
the 90s is definitely coming
to a close. it's
too expensive, and
to most dickheads undesirable anyway.
mircea_popescu: cunts shackled and sad on
the internet
their forecunts had fought
to conquer ?
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: not banned. permitted in 'viewable only
to registered' sites.
mircea_popescu: no, it's just provincialism,
the same idiotic middle age women
that run apple now run google.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field how's blogger.com banning porn further
that ?
ascii_field: never know who might have
to be 'robert borked' in
the future.
ascii_field: porn - a-ok in usa; viewing porn without usg permanent record of
the act - nope
ascii_field: (i do have one of
these,
http://i.imgur.com/EuoNzHn.jpg - ~18 usd - but it suffers from lack of sata, 32M(ram) 8M(rom), and a wifi chip
that cannot be disabled - built into cpu and embedded antenna)
ascii_field: (expect mircea_popescu
to retort 'throw
the damn
thing out' but i'll note
that
they aren't exactly in limitless supply - nor do we yet know of an alternate box
that is)
ascii_field: nubbins`: it lets you debug boot, and see kernel output prior
to nic init
nubbins`: is
the serial mod necessary or can i just ssh
to
the silly
thing?
ascii_field: all
the rest of you with 'pogos', i highly recommend
taking
the
time
to do
this mod
ascii_field: (marvell will slurp up a boot image via 'xmodem'
though
tty if you feed it)
ascii_field: it is even
theoretically possible
to restore it if nuked 'uboot' as well
ascii_field: also note
that it will overheat if run at length w/out heatsink
ascii_field: failing
this, boot pogo into arch and echo "something" > /dev/ttyS0
ascii_field: then - without unplugging
the usb - power cycle
the pogo
ascii_field: also make sure your dongle is set
to 115200 baud
ascii_field: danielpbarron:
the stock uboot iirc did spew something
danielpbarron: do i need
to modify uboot
to make it send
through usb?
mircea_popescu: they aren't
thinking per se anymore
than an ashtray is a party.
ascii_field: quite possibly a species only ever gets one or
two of
them
mircea_popescu: tell me, if i burn
the walmart in connecticut
tomorrow, has capitalism had a setback ?
danielpbarron: ok well i got
the usb
thing
to show up in a live ubuntu, but nothing gets sent from pogo
mircea_popescu: ascii_field but you
take an eerily supermarket view of
this setback
thing.
assbot: If you are more practically inclined, and having understood, accepted and come
to
terms with your fundamental human inferiority as it flows from your poverty, some solutions
to your predicament of "I wish
to buy myself a basket" have already been discussed. : Buttcoin ... (
http://bit.ly/1zdoOma )
ascii_field: one (often overhyped but afaik factual) example of a
total loss
that is later 'un-lost' is archimedes having had fluxions
ascii_field: in some cases ( mircea_popescu of all people ought
to know ) partial copy of something survives