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cazalla: gmaxwell, what about #b-a is not to your liking?
BingoBoingo: The lulzslide is spectacular in this case
gmaxwell: This channel isn't usually to my taste, but I knew some here would appricate this latest BCF lolspectacular.
thestringpuller: gmaxwell: now that is a name I have not seen in a long long time.
gmaxwell: BingoBoingo: nah, it seperately tracks 'counterparty' value, like a colored coin, the bitcoin is irrelevant, and just gets around the fact that bitcoin core won't relay 0 value txouts and miners are lazy and don't change defaults.
BingoBoingo: To the best of my knowledge the counterparty altcoin s just BTC that's mislabeled when you look at it through their wallet
gmaxwell: (well the UI doesn't prevent it, but the user appears to have the private key for it.)
gmaxwell: looks like one can just take the 0.0021 BTC and not vote.
gmaxwell: looks like for each voter they fund them with 0.0021 BTC (and some amount of 'counterparty' altcoin, I dunno how to tell how much)
gmaxwell: They have some hacked up flaky counterparty wallet software that gives you some preset destitions to vote.
gmaxwell: fluffypony: looks like it, hard to tell this system is opaque doesn't seem to be publically documented.
gmaxwell: sadly they didn't use this in round 1 where a real statement could be made by buying all the votes and assigning them to a joke candidate.
fluffypony: how are the votes authenticated? based on the address they're coming from?
gmaxwell: Another interesting property is that it should be trivial to buy votes with this thing.
gmaxwell: yea, I actually thought there work there more or less made sense; it had some liability (since they couldn't seem to resist letting people think they 'spoke for bitcoin') but it generally seemed to be going okay. Mostly burning pointless peoples pointless time, sure; but it was nice having _someone_ in combatting all the really agressive fud that some 'bitcoin alternatives' are slinging.
BingoBoingo: I mean they were not doing too bad when they were just burning various agencies' time, but then they just pivoted and stopped doing that
assbot: Logged on 24-02-2015 17:39:09; mircea_popescu: this is exactly like suicide : the people who succeed we want. the people who fail should have succeeded.
gmaxwell: I also like that contacting Jinyoung Englund to report how buste things are, gets me a "I am out of the office Weds, February 25 through Sunday, March 1, 2015"
gmaxwell: Org seems to be doing its damndest to commit suicide.
gmaxwell: oh the jim harper options are up now too.
gmaxwell: At the moment it seems all you can do is vote in favor of Olivier Janssens (thats why I'm able to see the address there), the rest of the options are coming up as "not available yet"
BingoBoingo: I am astounded at all of the ways they manage to keep screwing this election.
punkman: well at least they didn't do another fork to implement colored voting coins or whatever
gmaxwell: (the site is so broken that I'm having a hard time extracting addresses for the other options)
gmaxwell: So if you want to block Olivier Janssens from getting approved; for example get miners to just block payments to 1MG6SSwK2qSASM2QgBez2g4YFe3ib4d2eL.
gmaxwell: man y'all will get a kick out of the latest foundation lol-event. They have some _utterly_ braindead 'blockchain voting' scheme for their board vote run off (gotta love changing voting infrastructure mid election for election integrity) ☟︎
ben_vulpes: if it's not one thing it's a dang nother.
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ben_vulpes: the trick is (drumroll please)
cazalla: mmm home made potato gnocchi with muh tomato/chilli sauce (both from garden) and chorizo.. just missing a beer :\ ☟︎
asciilifeform: (from vintage quasi-usg catalogue, http://www.tscm.freeservers.com/stu.html - apparently this has 'always' been on the net)
asciilifeform: ' If you have a powered up NEXTEL on your belt and you walk within 12 feet of a STU-III in secure mode you have just compromised the classified key.'
asciilifeform: ada, like common lisp, is interesting for the mostly-complete absence of any obviously braindamaged decisions forced upon the user
decimation: all the examples I've found start with a 1
decimation: ah that's useful
ben_vulpes: jurov, asciilifeform: as though "lisp" and "algol" even exist as actual things.
mats: granted, they were trounced in ... northern africa? my ww2 history knowledge languishes.
mats: SS didn't get stomped multiple times and asked to enjoy it.
asciilifeform: this is simply what usg... is. at least since it was grown enough to even -have- a foreign policy.
decimation: asciilifeform: why does usg keep wanting to bring back the cold war? nostalgia?
decimation: at least as long as the dollars keep rolling
decimation: unfortunately, this means that the current population of the military is strongly selected for nominal loyalty to usg
mats: too much political fuckery, civ and mil, for any useful body to bear
mats: the clever ones are already losing their minds in group
decimation: mats: I've witnessed that happening too
mats: give it another four years and all the useful combat vets will have exited the service out of sheer disgust
mats: that post is silly. the guard would fail overnight.
decimation: "Oh I'm totally an awesome diplomat, look at my years of usg experience!"
mats: "They have been persisting in their misrepresentations, lies, whatever you want to call them, about their activities there to my face"
assbot: ClubOrlov: The Amherst Cauldron ... ( http://bit.ly/1vxF5Hn )
decimation: or maybe Obama fires people for failing to deliever?
decimation: who is accountable to a chain of bosses who ultimately account to themselves
asciilifeform: in actual practice, there's an ordinary boss.
decimation: actually there's a deeper problem. When you 'work' for a 'democracy', your boss is 'the people'
asciilifeform: overpaid << who envies these folks ?
decimation: so, sure some feds are way underpaid, but the majority are overpaid losers
decimation: re: federal employees overpaid < I suspect the whole system operates as a net with a hole - all the talent get sucked in and immediately leaves, but the bottom suckers end up 'caught'
decimation: how do you negrate the city of chicago
mircea_popescu: what;s the guy's name, Jon Burge
mircea_popescu: you or them, about even odds atm.
asciilifeform: that's storing iPnohes or toilet paper today
asciilifeform: but just as easily to another warehouse
ben_vulpes: where's the anger?
asciilifeform: i mean, yes, we'll go there when time comes
ben_vulpes: "boring, world's going to hell in a handbasket."
ben_vulpes: this "snore" attitude is part and parcel of the decay.
mircea_popescu: “It’s sort of an open secret among attorneys that regularly make police station visits, this place – if you can’t find a client in the system, odds are they’re there,” said Chicago lawyer Julia Bartmes.
mircea_popescu: part of the reason nasdaq would like it to is that it's yet anopther "make bitcoin more like fiat retardness"
assbot: The disappeared: Chicago police detain Americans at abuse-laden 'black site' | US news | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1AIGUR4 )
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller part of the reason it doesn't matter is that nasdaq would like it to.
mircea_popescu: <mats> i'm not certain that submission as evidence nullifies IP rights << it's a right nightmare.
Vexual: Only took a week and everyone happy
Vexual: New rules for foreign investors buying real estate in oz. You pay a small lubrication fee to the firb and despite any n shell companies you are liable for theoretical noncompliance fines.
thestringpuller: nasdaq.com covered that C4 nonsense: http://www.nasdaq.com/article/why-the-proposed-security-certification-for-bitcoin-matters-cm447831
assbot: Europol Uses Kiddy Porn Hysteria To Attack Bitcoin | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1FqGnnC )
mats: i'm not certain that submission as evidence nullifies IP rights
asciilifeform: can we do that to the rest of them ?
mats: er, that's a terrible construction, but anyway http://cryptome.org/Citizenfour-HD.7z
mats: hm, 'Citizenfour' is public domain due to being used as evidence in a suit
thestringpuller: similar to rejection
mircea_popescu: as that kid told that retarded cop once.
mircea_popescu: <mats> and anyway i like to see what people offended by mp are up to << lol me too. but this guy... he's not offended, he's just trying to you knwo, "make it in this game".
assbot: devsata.c - inferno-kirkwood - Inferno for the Marvell Kirkwood/Sheevaplug - Google Project Hosting ... ( http://bit.ly/1zFdfp0 )
asciilifeform: while hunting for marvell errata sheets, found http://code.google.com/p/inferno-kirkwood/source/browse/devsata.c - driver for same, written for bell labs's 'inferno' os (interesting animal all in itself, see old thread) - contains some clues re: reset behaviour ☟︎
mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> (oh, and those "experts" in rails/django/yii/whatever tend to swallow wholesale whatever braindamage comes out of the "community") << that's because these are experts in groupthink, having come of age in the 90s at the earliest.
mircea_popescu: <mike_c> idk. noobs will make sites. and their wordpress blogs will be used in ddos reflection attacks. what can you do. << kvetch
cazalla: actually there is a new report.. may as well write it up
thestringpuller: about as bad as Gavin killing those kids
cazalla: plus the paedos have the gall to use legitimate services such as Bitcoin
cazalla: microsft really enable these rapes because not only do the paedos use skype, but they use windows as well
cazalla: thestringpuller, yeah, i was gonna write it up under heading of hundreds of paedos use microsoft products to rape kids, but actually covered the report the above article mentions back in october or november last year
cazalla: it's old news btw, for some reason they dug up a report from last year and ran it today as new
cazalla: how many times can you spot "legitimate" http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2967084/Paedophile-porn-rings-selling-live-streams-rape-involving-children-young-six-Skype-return-Bitcoins-warn-Europol.html
asciilifeform: jurov: my impression is, eveythign around lisp is considerably fragmented << algol's mighty fragmented too
thestringpuller: but this is irrelevant of execution i suppose
thestringpuller: Adlai: drafting them to spec is difficult sometimes. Like coming up with a good statement of work, or an SLA
Adlai: if anything, GPG contracts are too easy to use
gribble: evoorhees was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 year, 31 weeks, 4 days, 23 hours, 29 minutes, and 46 seconds ago: <evoorhees> I need to go for now, on later
mats: (the ones that used to hang here, anyway)
mats: and anyway i like to see what people offended by mp are up to