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mircea_popescu: not sure what it is in english, tho im sure it must exist. perhaps something like "shamanistic narrative".
mircea_popescu: cazalla you know there's a word for this, among people who shovel this particular sort of elephant shit for a living (mostly, clinical psychiatrist)
trinque: mircea_popescu: hello there. https://blockchain.info/address/1BkCTj36DMdcF8TVa1by9zfwdcMFm3VAES
punkman: trinque, last time that happened I threw bucket of water on the loudest ass
trinque: not a good fight either; I think the one winning is crying
trinque: punkman: seems like they're for simulating situations that'd be riskier to learn from in the real world
BingoBoingo: punkman: I dunno really. In this one chase followed having fun in the maze with the girl and started when girl began throwing rocks at the police from the maze
punkman: BingoBoingo: There were mazes, girls, low speed chases, shootouts, and orgies of celebration... Basically I dream in action movies << why is maze/chase/shootout such a common theme? always comes up when discussing dreams
BingoBoingo: I'd basically be doing what, loading trucks with office supplies and busses headed to the Uranium mines?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: thank you for nominating me to tae Patraeus's chair at central Intelligence
cazalla: i love those ones
cazalla: i've had 2 nights straight of dreams where people get hit by trains
cazalla: ah, the life of a qntra writer/bachelor!
assbot: U. Of Minnesota Removes Race Descriptions In Crime Alerts | The Daily Caller ... ( http://bit.ly/1Auy9eD )
cazalla: ;;later tell mircea_popescu Bitcoin is not your toy, OK! http://qntra.net/2015/01/the-hard-fork-missile-crisis/#comment-11703
cazalla: ;;later tell pete_dushenski works fine!
kakobrekla: seems to work?
kakobrekla: !rate assbot 1 test
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell BingoBoingo samesies: https://dpaste.de/8vo7/raw
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell cazalla let's see if this works for qntra submission: https://dpaste.de/8vo7/raw
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thestringpuller: i have no idea what is going on in that gif
assbot: Logged on 26-02-2015 02:54:26; asciilifeform: !s teaching the controversy
thestringpuller wonders when US will have their version.
danielpbarron: i thought it was like the trains that took people to the camps
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: in the german variant
danielpbarron didn't realize the wagon itself did the gassing
thestringpuller: "A converted 24-seat bus, the execution van keeps the appearance of a normal police van on the outside with no markings indicating its purpose. The rear of the vehicle houses a windowless chamber where the execution takes place. Several cameras are present and feed closed-circuit televisions in the front of the van; a recording can be made if desired. The bed itself slides out of the wall under its own power, on which the convi
thestringpuller: The gas van was invented in the Soviet Union in 1936, by Isay Berg, the head of the administrative and economic department of the NKVD of Moscow Oblast which suffocated batches of prisoners with engine fumes in a camouflaged bread van while on the drive out to the mass graves at Butovo, where the prisoners were subsequently buried.
thestringpuller: The gas van was invented in the Soviet Union in 1936, by Isay Berg, the head of the administrative and economic department of the NKVD of Moscow Oblast which suffocated batches of prisoners with engine fumes in a camouflaged bread van while on the drive out to the mass graves at Butovo, where the prisoners were subsequently buried.
asciilifeform: according to one version, there was a ru wagen in the '30s
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: i just learned the gasenwagen was invented by the russians
decimation: with that, good night
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decimation: http://tgeonetta.com/cost-of-living-vs-salary-best-cities-for-software-developers-and-engineers/ < heh. apparently programmers in the new york 'profit' about $16k per year
decimation: related: http://www.slate.com/articles/life/education/2015/02/university_hiring_if_you_didn_t_get_your_ph_d_at_an_elite_university_good.html?wpsrc=fol_fb < The data revealed that just a quarter of all universities account for 71 to 86 percent of all tenure-track faculty in the U.S. and Canada in these three fields. Just 18 elite universities produce half of all computer science professors, 16 schools produce half of all business
decimation: surprisingly when left to their own devices they choose... more clownishness
asciilifeform: let them stand on head, crap in own mouth
asciilifeform: who the fuck even cares what these clowns do now.
decimation: 'nobody understands what p-values mean so let's ban them'
assbot: Psychology Journal Bans Significance Testing « Science-Based Medicine ... ( http://bit.ly/1DcpHO9 )
decimation: asciilifeform: http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/psychology-journal-bans-significance-testing/ < teaching the statistics 'controversy'
cazalla: is the other one the little mermaid?
cazalla: trinque, lulz i just thought that
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thestringpuller: lol bitbet is loading real slow today
asciilifeform missed the gigantic 'no' bets after september's series
mircea_popescu: "i don't remember seeing before the parts i don't like seeing today"
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danielpbarron: i will not spare the whip.
danielpbarron: oh i thought you were asking if i was here; didn't realize i just got nominated to run the .. CIA!?
mircea_popescu: "pull together" usg.
decimation: "MR: I think we can work our way through this."
mircea_popescu: obv, not exactly what's being contemplated with the "pull together" talk
mircea_popescu: then we'll pull together just fine.
mircea_popescu: sure, we'll pull together : come swear fealty to me. bring me your daughters, let me name the head of each usg agency
mircea_popescu: "we must pull together" is the age old statist refrain.
decimation: 'one point of view is that usg should have all ur bits'
assbot: Logged on 17-11-2014 04:49:54; asciilifeform: all you have to do, then, is to pile on the meat puppets, until suddenly there is a 'controversy', and there are 'points of view', and eventually - a 'consensus.'
assbot: Logged on 17-11-2014 04:48:53; asciilifeform: what's more, this follows inescapably from any situation, anywhere, where someone gets to 'score nonzero points' merely for showing up.
assbot: Logged on 12-09-2014 16:47:19; asciilifeform: because suddenly, there is (or you think there is) a debate. with 'sides.'
assbot: Logged on 12-09-2014 16:47:05; asciilifeform: once you've been 'taught the controversy' - that is, convincing that there -even is- reasonable debate among informed people, on a particular subject - the lie becomes a kind of half-truth, automagically
decimation: the thing is, you need to learn to do what I say
assbot: 7 results for 'teaching the controversy' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=teaching+the+controversy
asciilifeform: !s teaching the controversy ☟︎
asciilifeform: 'Because we have got to be willing as a nation to have a dialogue. This simplistic characterization of one-side-is-good and one-side-is-bad is a terrible place for us to be as a nation. We have got to come to grips with some really hard, fundamental questions. I’m watching risk and threat do this, while trust has done that. No matter what your view on the issue is [... snipped crapolade]'
mircea_popescu: mike_c well, i think on the mid term qntra has better earning perspectives than whatsapp.
mats: and why is that
mats: asciilifeform: iirc that was not a stable release
decimation: (other than through nat)
decimation: I don't see need for router to talk to outside world
asciilifeform: if you have external ssh open (why?) into the thing, keep in mind that recent versions of freebsd had diddled rng
mats: does anyone here actually expect qntra to pay for itself?
decimation: one day soon I will try to re-write with bsd
decimation: I use the edgerouter with built-in firmware, it definitely performs
thestringpuller: thank you for that asciilifeform
thestringpuller: Care to elaborate? :P
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: how does one procure a non-spookware router tho?
mike_c: probably not right for owner to pontificate on that too much.
mike_c: too bad mircea_popescu can't say what he thinks qntra share price is right.
decimation: "AS: So you do believe then, that we should build those for other countries [Russia, China] if they pass laws? MR: I think we can work our way through this."
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: as if 'nonspookware' is a thing in the store
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: I've been to several stores and they put the Cisco routers on the bottom with sign "Spookware" and Asus routers on the top shelves with "No Spookware"
decimation: MR: I’ve got a lot of world-class cryptographers at the National Security Agency." < MR is 'mike rogers', new director of nsa
decimation: "AS: No, I think Bruce Schneier and Ed Felton and all of the best public cryptographers in the world would agree that you can’t really build backdoors in crypto. That it’s like drilling a hole in the windshield.
mircea_popescu: i'm happier with trilema's monetization than with cisco's soviet future.
mike_c: asciilifeform: problem is, that's not a growth story.
mircea_popescu: absolute texbook case on the dangers of "obeying the laws".
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: cisco dead << still crown-blessed, usg supply alone could feed it sov. factory style till the bitter end
mircea_popescu: mike_c cisco pretty much imploded once it became clear they're working for the usg against their customers.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: trilema is 8 years old?
thestringpuller: mike_c: qntra may very well outgrow trilema
mike_c: holee shit. 60->0 is two years?
mircea_popescu: "Chief casualty is U.S. network equipment maker Cisco Systems Inc, which in 2012 counted 60 products on the Central Government Procurement Center's (CGPC) list, but by late 2014 had none, a Reuters analysis of official data shows."
mike_c: trilema's monetization level doesn't support the current qntra share price to me.
thestringpuller: well given trilema is well monetized I wouldn't worry too much about qntra implementing a revenue stream in the future
mike_c: yeah, i agree it shouldn't be trying to monetize yet. but that helps fuel investor optimism.
thestringpuller: mike_c: i don't think it can make money yet. it's in egg phase. egg must hatch first.
mike_c: plus it hasn't tried to make money yet (with one tiny exception), so it's still hopes and dreams phase.
thestringpuller: so people buying MPEx seats just to subsidize qntra?