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mircea_popescu: this meta cancer upon
the modern brain. people spend so much
time considering "the implications" of shit
that never happened
they have no energy left
to do stuff.
mircea_popescu: well it's certainly closer
to being pursued after being measured
than before eh.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: walk where? wants grant money for himself as a result of
the discovery?
mircea_popescu: all
this nonsense of little girl stuck on
the
trans side of maturity river, discussing whether she wants
to cross or not, what if
the cis side won't be all
that it's cracked up
to be etc. wtf.
mircea_popescu: you will notice
that
the scam foundation is being fucking buried. in spite of... welll... consensus.
mircea_popescu: just measure
the damned
thing. if it doesn't come out, either refine
the machinery or give up.
assbot: Logged on 27-11-2014 15:36:04; mircea_popescu: no wonder everyone in
the us needs a college degree.
there's no way native intelligence could deal with a
tenth of
the cognitive dissonance dished out on a daily basis.
mircea_popescu: the shit's hard enough without waiting for complex voodoo
to allign.
mircea_popescu: i never heard of
this bizarro shamanistic approach
to research.
gabriel_laddel: If you're not strong enough now, retreat, lick your wounds and
then strike when
the
time is right.
gabriel_laddel: As far as I can
tell, it comes down
to
the basic strategic necessity of killing your enemy when you indend
to.
gabriel_laddel: "1) Search for experimental signs of quantum gravity
that violate Einstein's Equivalence Principle and/or
the Newtonian inverse-square law."
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: but
this is not germane
to
the issue. << Oh, but it is.
These people are prepared
to lie at every
turn. See
the stack overflow post, or
the output of
the Eot-wash group. If Al or Stan were make a mistake in
the run,
they'd never be able
to
test it again.
mircea_popescu: and
the proponent can't be doing or not doing "because of other people" (tm)
mircea_popescu: we're not discussing why some other blokes aren't
testing it, we're discussing why
the proponent isn't.
gabriel_laddel: The Eot-wash group won't
test
this. And
the string
theorist in
that stackoverflow question is more
than happy
to state
that because a large construction of molecules falls at
the speed we expect it
to, it couldn't possibly happen on a small scale.
gabriel_laddel: What Al would like
to
test is pretty simple. Is gravity mirror-symmetric? If it is,
then you can drop
two stereoisomers in a vacuum, and
they'll fall at
the same rate. We don't know
that
this is
the case, and
the universe actually violates mirror-symmetry on many scales. Perhaps a violation will be observable.
assbot: organic chemistry - what is
the simple enantiomer in
the powder form
that one can get? - Chemistry Stack Exchange ... (
http://bit.ly/1CbyBAs )
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller makes you wonder how children were made before
they invented shoes.
gabriel_laddel: lemme finish making
this burrito and I'll write up something on
the game being played
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: did you read
the stackoverflow post linked above?
mircea_popescu: this is science not politics, what's biding your
time do.
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu:
the opposition lie
through
their
teeth at every given moment, you don't want
to give
them anything
to work with
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: how would i learn
to play footsie if not via a wikihow article?
gabriel_laddel: he isn't giving up, as far as I know, but biding his
time
gabriel_laddel: iirc, it was an even bet whether
the effect - if real - is even large enough
to measure with current instrumentation at all <<
this makes a great deal of sense
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu stoner paratrooper << fighters have a lot of relaxing
to do!
mircea_popescu: i don't get it. he didn't want
the experiment made in
the end ?
mircea_popescu: re alexa : last
time i measured
their accuracy, it came out
to about 96% error rating. ie, if alexa reads 100, it can see anything between 4 and 2500.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, in
the ideal model which sits at
the fundament of us academia,
this would have been arranged over a phone call and
tried
the next week.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform>
that could easily be
tested. << not easily, no. but yes,
they could be.
mircea_popescu: think of it in
terms of
throwing bowling balls at a
tree from outer space. you won't get within a mile. and if
the first ball lands 735`331meters rom
the
tree,
the next five won't land 735`331 meters from
the next five
threes.
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel string
theorists are a lot like freudian psychanalists.
the better ones follow
the lieberman line.