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asciilifeform: as are a thousand mental dysfunctions most of which haven't even a name
gabriel_laddel: if iq tests worked we'd have usable software. << see symbolics inc
asciilifeform: that tells you just how fucked you are
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: can work without being any more than 'dismal science'
mircea_popescu: if iq tests worked we'd have usable software.
decimation: AFQT means 'armed forces qualifying test'
decimation: one datapoint "“The NLSY, administered in 1980 to by far the largest sample (6,502 whites, 3,022 blacks) in a national study, found a difference of 1.21 standard deviations on the AFQT.”"
mircea_popescu: but the whole thing strikes me like an attempt to establish a link between female beauty and hair color.
asciilifeform: visit a university library; 'bell curve' is a little brick, the 'refutations' - a book case and climbing
mircea_popescu: ftr, i dun actually credit the race/intelligence theory. not that i have strong feelings either way
asciilifeform: almost impenetrable by the idly curious
asciilifeform: that's why the solid wall of bullshit built around the subject by usg
mircea_popescu: i was all prepared to hear 300 and say "rubbish"
decimation: no, but they strongly 'taught the controversy'
asciilifeform: instead they had to declare murry a public enemy and 'hitler'
asciilifeform: the conclusions of which, interestingly, none of the establishment types bothered to attack directly
mircea_popescu: how did the ets do ?
decimation: which controversially asserted that jews were smarter than blacks
asciilifeform: (green for the colour of the prophet's banner, naturally!)
asciilifeform: adjunct to blue & red already in the pharmacy we know
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform basically they yearn to be women.
asciilifeform: i, (in my mental card catalogue, naturally) call this 'the green pill'
decimation: george will sort of fits that description
asciilifeform: mr mold once confessed that he might like an 'islamization pill'
asciilifeform: and openly profess to wish for a pill that would 'turn them catholic' or whatnot
decimation: while they silently keep those mores alive amoung themselves
asciilifeform: one of the mega-lulz re: 'paleoconservatives' is that most of these folks (that i've had the fortune of reading) struggle with a mental bug - they yearn to roll back to some known-good state where various old-school religions were still strong, but don't personally subscribe to them
mircea_popescu: i dun think this is controversial.
decimation: one of murray's books advanced the idea that the ruling us elite were cutting asunder all social mores and strictures that bound the masses
mircea_popescu: for the record, the earl dunmore was pretty cool too.
mircea_popescu: 3. too.
decimation: generally, my understanding is that 'paleoconservatives' want to wind us society back to something resembling the 'cis-democracy' in that moldbug peice
gabriel_laddel: people try codifying common sense to make it more palatable - doesn't work
mircea_popescu: 1. Any rule applied uniformly over a group with a view to some purpose will result in measurable contradiction of the purpose before it results in measurable achievement of the purpose.
mircea_popescu: no idea why this'd be "murray's law", but at least i see something.
mircea_popescu: ok, that much makes sense.
mircea_popescu: 3. The Law of Net Harm: The less likely it is that the unwanted behavior will change voluntarily, the more likely it is that a program to induce change will cause net harm.
mircea_popescu: 2. The Law of Unintended Rewards: Any social transfer increases the net value of being in the condition that prompted the transfer.
mircea_popescu: 1. The Law of Imperfect Selection: Any objective rule that defines eligibility for a social transfer program will irrationally exclude some persons.
mircea_popescu: or to wha texactly. erotica ?
mircea_popescu: as opposed to what, finance ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you need a full body containment suit just to survive as a thinking man here.
mircea_popescu: in that cesspool they can't be anything but louts.
asciilifeform: murray put his hands firmly on the 'third rail' in usa
decimation: not exactly, but he wouldn't be invited to any parties at cpac
decimation: mircea_popescu: roughly, 'conservative' in america today means 'republican', which also means 'pro-state'
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: try to see the pattern here
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: so wait, would visiting e.g., Schwartz qualify for "stepping into the sewer"
asciilifeform: nah the other one
assbot: Charles Murray (political scientist) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1BNZ33v )
asciilifeform: they're mainstream 'guiding lights', albeit - in the degenerate anglo world, with a 'minus' sign
mircea_popescu: what murray is this ?
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: you don't need to open a sewer hatchway to get to herr murray
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: this is, as far as I can tell, roughly the equivalent of reading your blog.
mircea_popescu: "but honey, you can't marry this guy. his parents have no library in the house!"
asciilifeform won't give a damn if thiel appears with watson and putin also
mircea_popescu: anyway, back to the intelligence vs education thing. i wish i had words to express my meaning in intelligible english. let's try by saying that a good mark of one's education is what sort of thing he fills his space with.
gabriel_laddel: debating on the /same side/?!?!?!
gabriel_laddel: 10:37 - who is that with Thiel, could it be the evil racist Charles Murray?
mircea_popescu: https://bitcoinpresscenter.org/presslist-filtered/spoken-arabic << this shit's so lulzy.
asciilifeform: that is, to exhaust the resources of folks tasked with arranging mircea_popescu losing it
asciilifeform confesses that he wondered if the purpose of that bet was not necessarily to win, but to soften a target
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, i meant the berkshire bet.
asciilifeform: unless i catastrophically misunderstand, ^ the bears inevitably get the coin unless a fully bitcoinized supply chain materializes for mircea_popescu and others to use
mircea_popescu: what WAS that chick's name ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, whatever would happen would come as a surprise to everyone, including in no particular order : a) the people running btc-usd exchanges ; b) you ; c) the friendly usg log reader delegate ; d) isabelle boring or w/e her name is ; etc
mircea_popescu: so far my bitcoins are getting sent to the btc bears lol.
asciilifeform: ^ which is entirely true, imho
asciilifeform: this is more along the lines of the mircea_popescu article where 'buffett is not actually rich because his dollars can't be sent to isis'
mircea_popescu: what you describe is a what, 3 sigma event ? there's not a plan in place for two sigma events even. banal shit like "they used plane as rocket"
asciilifeform: or use a ten cent bullet
mircea_popescu: in your craziest models you don't have a hitler lizard tribe capable to handle such sudden bends of activity.
asciilifeform: would the folks who can zero his bank balance by pressing a button, let btc climb to 100k usd ?
asciilifeform: what do you suppose would happen if herr thiel decided to pump every penny he had into buying btc ?
mircea_popescu: for instance i said null hypothesis as part of a deal with my brain to allow me to continue to exist.
asciilifeform: that precludes certain things, and requires others
mircea_popescu: we're at the "known for a long time" hurdle yet.
asciilifeform: which is that herr thiel is operating on an understanding with the folks who allow him to exist
assbot: Logged on 01-03-2015 06:10:30; asciilifeform: which was known for a rather long time prior to becoming an industrial product
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-03-2015#1037147 << if memory serves industrial productness was no part of the discussion. ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'll add a third
asciilifeform: so as to work your hindbrain.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: he's selective re: which trendisms to employ
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel there are two threads here. one is "thiel is dumb". this is not being entertained. the other is, "thiel's uneducated". this is my position.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i was speaking of work in the economic sense rather than physical
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: if he was spewing trendisms he'd be /supporting/ the MOOCs
ben_vulpes: oh and dealing with the output of people who "like it".
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: thiel's spewing trendisms to work your hindbrain
gabriel_laddel: Yep. Which is my point. Thiel has detected this.
mircea_popescu: the very fucking point of academia is to sail away.
mircea_popescu: well... because it's "universal". once no kid's left behind, the boat's not sailing anywhere.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform gabriel_laddel i just parsed it as "a weird way to say mountebanks"
assbot: Logged on 01-03-2015 06:11:21; gabriel_laddel: It took 3 generations of masters to produce Leonardo
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-03-2015#1037154 << i have my doubts about this "productive" perspective. ☝︎
asciilifeform was actually trying to picture casino game
ben_vulpes goes to buy a bottle of wine to fuel the ruby rage
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel actually moocs are the superlative american college.
assbot: Peter Thiel Was Right - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1BNYvux )
gabriel_laddel: Youtube doesn't have grep, and I'm not going to troll through all these videos to find the one I'm thinking of. In any case, in one of them he states that "scientists have been replaced with baccarats" and that "MOOCs are not going anywhere"
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> i'd guess that many folks can't even think about this subject without their brain melting from rage << a good eighth of my time is spent talking smart young guys down out of a shartup-inspired rage attack