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sjsqd: danielpbarron:then how am I going
to walk around with my augmented vision paying for
things in 20 years
time if bitcoin isn't
the ideal cryptocurrency?
danielpbarron: sjsqd, save yourself
the
trouble and don't install any altcoins
danielpbarron: thestringpuller, sure I wouldn't mind someone reading something
that had already been written down;
that's more like an audio book
than a podcast
sjsqd: so
they are completely separete
sjsqd: danielpbarron:when I get
the
time I will probably get a harddrive, install a barebones Debian installation on different partitions for each altcoin
sjsqd: although I did manage
to compile a few wallets on Ubuntu successfully
sjsqd: danielpbarron:yeah apt-get is easy enough
to use, but when you need
to install a custom altcoin wallet for instance
sjsqd: danielpbarron:to be fair when it comes
to interviews I'd rather hear
the full conversation rather
than what someone else has cut up from
the discussion
danielpbarron: sjsqd, not
that i'm recommmending debian, but it uses a package manager
that downloads binaries, not source
thestringpuller: danielpbarron: ah. but what about say, Gang Busters? Or rehearsed stuff. Orson Welles War of
the Worlds broadcast?
danielpbarron: talking free-form into a mic is for people not smart enough
to write down what
they mean in a concise manner
thestringpuller: jurov: i kno rite. so not only will someone kidnap me,
they'll cut off or extract appendages
to unlock my stuff...
sjsqd: and unless you're familiar with how
to compile etc it gets pretty confusing quickly
sjsqd: the problem I have with debian is
that unless you run some specific version (I usually run
the latest version) most of
the documentation on
the internet is kinda only 75%
there
danielpbarron: thestringpuller, if
there is something worth discussing, just write a blog post
thestringpuller: danielpbarron: curious
to
the reason you dislike
the medium?
sjsqd: danielpbarron:yeah I
tried it once on a VPS but it didn't end well
sjsqd: the biggest
thing I've noticed about computer security is
that its almost impossible
to get decent biometric security
sjsqd: its great functionally but it confuses
the hell out of me
sjsqd: I will be moving all my financial
things onto Ubuntu or something similar fairly soon
though
sjsqd: so its kinda
taken a back seat (:
sjsqd: and I'm writing articles about
the bitcoin foundation
sjsqd: but at
the moment I have a family member in intensive care unit
danielpbarron: and even
that is a bit pricy -- i picked one with a fast GPU
sjsqd: I have a laptop and I am moving *towards*
that
sjsqd: tbh, if I had
the choice I'd have a separate computer for linux and a separate computer for windows
sjsqd: having said
that, my disdain for Adobe is growing on a daily basis
sjsqd: but we haven't quite reached
that point yet
sjsqd: Unless you want
to deal with
the limitations of GIMP
danielpbarron: you won't use apple
to literally save your life but you'll use windows
to save your job.. ok..
sjsqd: Windows is kind of a necessary evil if you want
to play modern video games or use 'creative' software
sjsqd: danielpbarron:mainly because Adobe won't release
their software on Linux just yet
sjsqd: I don't care if its a lifeboat on
the
titanic
sjsqd: do you
think
there is an altcoin more suited for
that?
danielpbarron: you have apple pay and paypal and whatever app of choice for
that
danielpbarron: paying for
things with phones is NOT an application of bitcoin!
sjsqd: and send a shit
ton of money
through methods like western union or
their banks
sjsqd: 90% of
the population are foreign
sjsqd: here
there are interesting applications of bitcoin besides paying for
things with phones
danielpbarron: understanding
these
things is like understanding how
to ride a horse in
the 1800s
sjsqd: unless people understand how
to compile software its
too difficult
sjsqd: danielpbarron:as much as I understand what you're saying its difficult
to explain
to people
the fire safety aspect
lobbes: 'crypto on phone' defeats
the purpose of bitcoin
danielpbarron: they need
to refine
technical ability
then; don't give
them fire without
teaching fire safety
danielpbarron: the whole "crypto on your phone"
thing is more of a hinderance
than a help
sjsqd: danielpbarron:that depends on people's
technical ability
though
danielpbarron: you should better
teach
them how
to run a full node
sjsqd: but beyond having
to scrape into my savings
to pay for a VPS here or
there I actually don't have any way
to spend it here yet
sjsqd: obviously sent
them some dust just
to show
them how it works
sjsqd: and managed
to
teach a friend in pakistan as well as a friend in Dubai how
to set up a wallet on
their phone
sjsqd: On a recent flight I used
the plane's WiFi which cost like 1 USD
sjsqd: asciilifeform:I haven't really spent any, only
to show friends how it works
sjsqd: I'm not wealthy (at all) so its more an incapability of keeping more bitcoin at
the moment
PeterL: save in bitcoin,
then you don't have
to be
tied
to usd
sjsqd: PeterL:I obviously do, but have little choice in
the matter
PeterL: and you don't see being
tied
to usd as a problem?
sjsqd: it is permanently
tied
to
the USD
sjsqd: PeterL:there is almost nowhere
to even spend it here (beyond paying web hosting bills etc) so I am pretty much saving it right now
sjsqd: asciilifeform:yes I kind of understand
that bitcoin is more of a long
term cryptocurrency (my view anyway)
than a day-to-day currency for a number of reasons
sjsqd: I hate operating hours of banks (even
though you can access full bank services
till like 10PM at nighttime here)
sjsqd: and my card has been cloned once, and I've had
tons of issues with my bank
sjsqd: asciilifeform:that's why I want
to pay with bitcoin or something similar
pete_dushenski: sjsqd: it's more along
the lines of, just because you like
to do something, doesn't mean
than a particular avenue of approach is appropriate
sjsqd: and
then it sits in a cupboard
sjsqd: when
they get married or as an investment
sjsqd: and I've seen firsthand how depending upon culture people will dump
their life savings into buying some gold
sjsqd: I personally believe
that
the entire gold/silver/etc markets are manipulated like crazy
sjsqd: pete_dushenski:how is it stealing if
the vendor eventually accepts bitcoin?
sjsqd: asciilifeform:haha yes
there are 2-3 of
them, no I don't own any gold
pete_dushenski: sjsqd: just because you like
to eat, doesn't mean you should steal food
PeterL: why do you
think you need bitcoin for groceries?
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sjsqd: pete_dushenski:yes for long
term usage, no one is going
to pull out a fully fledged laptop
to pay for
their groceries
sjsqd: or moving
to
the Mozilla phone or something
sjsqd: I'm looking at upgrading
to a phone with a fingerprint scanner
pete_dushenski: but no one wants
to be another '4,500 btc hard drive in
the landfill' guy
pete_dushenski: of course, your level of security depends on how much you're
trying
to secure
PeterL: how long would it
take an attacker
to brute force your pin?
sjsqd: all my wallets are locked and require separate passwords
to open
PeterL: phones can get lost or stolen,
then what?
sjsqd: PeterL depends, I
try
to be sensible about what I install
sjsqd: camel
to computer in 30 years
sjsqd: danielpbarron:in
this specific locale
the government has
to allow it because of
terrorism and money laundering etc
PeterL: read
the logs,
then you will understand how bitcoin should (and should not) be used
sjsqd: PeterL:I use my phone, Windows computer and a VPS or
two
to store my coins
sjsqd: so
the likelihood of bitcoin being adopted widely is high (although it hasn't happened just yet)