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asciilifeform: do i have to draw ~you~ a picture, BingoBoingo ? stop enabling the derps by nodding along
BingoBoingo: I take these as orders to go to sleep and see what the morning holds.
lobbes: BingoBoingo: Do I have the okay to bring an uncloaked auctionbot online?
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-05 16:59:59 BingoBoingo: And the last two IPs are released, much faster than before. I am going to arrange a sit down with Latecho folks next week.
BingoBoingo: Of course there's also the chance something works out to extend Pizarro's life in Uruguay, but I'm going to look for some Qntra fodder, maybe put together a blog post, and see what Sunday and then later Monday hold.
BingoBoingo: Trinque's recent post had me reevaluating the dietary situation and adjusting. I'd been taking it for granted Milk is rich in Vitamin D, etc only to discover... The locals throw some folic acid in flour y Ya! After making some dietary adjustments the last few weeks of winter were less "blah" burdened than te preceeding.
BingoBoingo: If another lord wants to step up and try Vienna, Portugal, Minks, etc... I don't know that "Señor (Herr?) Rogier hopped on a plane to a strange land before" should necessarily block someone else from the opportunity.
BingoBoingo: Uruguay isn't without its charms, and it may be time to let another lord the opportunity to claw their way out of the zone. I woke up today with the oddly relaxing freedom that comes from not knowing what the immediate future holds, even if last night I put a good number of kilometers on the odometer in the drizzle loosening the big ball of stress I'd been trapped in.
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: I'm giving the matter a think.
billymg: no worries, i was keeping up with the logs during the whole episode. seems quite unfortunate that even the datacenter hosting piz suffers from http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-05#1940547 but i certainly don't put this on you
billymg: ah, i missed the second message about a key for a shared server, is that still needed?
BingoBoingo: billymg: ty for your patience, but please temper your thanks to me. So far I handled this clumsily.
lobbesbot: billymg: Sent 17 hours and 1 minute ago: <BingoBoingo> Please send my an SSH public key. I will set up an account on the shared server for you from which you can access your Rockchip
hanbot_abroad: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-05#1940645 << thanks, oughta be fixed. first time i've had enough comments to notice, i think! :D
mp_en_viaje: hanbot_abroad, you know i changed my mind, bring the camera over
BingoBoingo: And the last two IPs are released, much faster than before. I am going to arrange a sit down with Latecho folks next week.
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, i offered them a server back in 2011 ; and then throughout cca 2014. they never took me up on it, and eventually sold out to usg agency
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: do you know where is freenode's "won't federate answer"? I can't seem to find it at all; there's the initial talk in #freenode and then follow up in #eulora but nothing after that
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-05 05:59:20 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-04#1940517 << this is reasonable. maybe once outage is actually resolved, forward them something like "look, this is how much i settled on my customers for outage costing, 50% discount on your bw price for next month will very much help". let them feel the burn of their own idiocy in their pocket. if they pay, okay, if not they clearly intend to continue in the same ve
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-05 05:59:20 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-04#1940517 << this is reasonable. maybe once outage is actually resolved, forward them something like "look, this is how much i settled on my customers for outage costing, 50% discount on your bw price for next month will very much help". let them feel the burn of their own idiocy in their pocket. if they pay, okay, if not they clearly intend to continue in the same ve
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-05 05:23:04 mp_en_viaje: atm i dunno i'd trust anyone from russia or recommend anyone move there. the one time this happened it blowed up in such a sickly manner, i absolutely don't want to spend the significant resources involved in dealing with the clean-up. as far as anyone knows, moscow's bogon-radioactive
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-05 05:22:08 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-04#1940510 << problem is we did have one such, and he decided the best thing to do to himself is be as utterly stupid as possible. i very much suspect the actual driver behind http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2018-07-04#1831652 mystery is the fucking air, or something, makes the locals subtly suicidal.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-05 05:18:07 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-04#1940507 << you should actually see vienna. all i used to know about how "things are" from my days in olde yurp, 100% confirmed, just as i was starting to doubt.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-05 04:49:08 mp_en_viaje: this is a judgment much akin to, "look, in your locale enel spa is the energy provider, monopoly by law, you're buying energy from them" "i'd have to look for my contract" "no, actually, you don't have to. i can tell you from ten thousand miles away, on this basis"
mp_en_viaje: ah no, i just misread.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-04#1940517 << this is reasonable. maybe once outage is actually resolved, forward them something like "look, this is how much i settled on my customers for outage costing, 50% discount on your bw price for next month will very much help". let them feel the burn of their own idiocy in their pocket. if they pay, okay, if not they clearly intend to continue in the same vein so what
diana_coman: I suppose my limitation/narrower viewpoint might come at times from not really granting everything the infinite set of axes, yes; on looking at it, there's no reason to limit it upfront like this, no.
diana_coman: I can see it; there's no limitation due to axes, it's n-dimensional space so infinity of axes
mp_en_viaje: as far as i'm concerned, any two subsets of the universe that have no shared points are in principle opposite, and the symmetry point is to be established through conversation if interesting.
mp_en_viaje: your notion is exactly my notion, "subset of same set" translates as "they're the same thing" as in, "measures of x coord". then you emphasize giving the symmetry point, where i couldn't care less. and BECAUSE your notion of opposite requires a given symmetry point, then therefore your notion of "what the set may be" is limited thereby, so it'll be things like "measures of coordinates" or such narrow things. whereas my set i
mp_en_viaje: i see the difference now.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: ah, I see; I can work with the set-theory, just not the one I directly reach for when "opposite"
mp_en_viaje: i use the set-theory basis for "opposite", yes. two subsets of a set are opposite if they have no shared elements. i'm not entirely sure how to construct an algebraic notion of "opposite" that's not immediate nonsense.
diana_coman: I don't see it; owning is the opposite of not owning; in as much as borrowing is not owning, there's the opposite; ducks don't enter into it
mp_en_viaje: i have a lot more in common wit ha woman than with most other things.
diana_coman: I'll have to watch some of that then.
diana_coman: that's what I saw and so -> wtf
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, are you talking of post kill-bill tarantino ? because in that we agree, i banned him.
mp_en_viaje: "oh, you'll understand by yourself" "of course i will, bitch. and i do not need you for this, or even permit you to live after"
mp_en_viaje: to me they seem exact polar opposites. consider... i dunno, consider his rendition of the stupid white man, as seen in dennis hopper's character in true romance. dude EXACTLY GETS IT, there he sits, "enslaved on a continent his fathers fought to conquer", the moron incarnate. he "did things his way" or whatever the fuck it is he did, became an alcoholic. now lives in a container next to a railway and other piled ifnrastructu
diana_coman: dunno, on the same approach I could add tarantino really
mp_en_viaje: solaris specifically, i didn't look at any others after that.
mp_en_viaje: like in that solaris nonsense. i thought it was unspeakably stupid when it came out ; i still do -- but i am starting to suspect it's not stupid because of itself ; but instead because of the subject matter. in itself, exact blueprint of muscovite.
diana_coman: anyway, anyone able to actually do something useful is someone I want to talk to, yes.
mp_en_viaje: atm i dunno i'd trust anyone from russia or recommend anyone move there. the one time this happened it blowed up in such a sickly manner, i absolutely don't want to spend the significant resources involved in dealing with the clean-up. as far as anyone knows, moscow's bogon-radioactive
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-05 05:28:45 mp_en_viaje: http://trilema.com/2013/eulora-august-update/#comment-94603 << hey diana_coman looksy what i found. you want that guy's email maybe ?
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-05#1940558 - sure, I'll shoot him an email, why not; fwiw I haven't yet got to struggling with the sound stuff (still at particles&proc textures) but it's getting closer
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-04#1940510 << problem is we did have one such, and he decided the best thing to do to himself is be as utterly stupid as possible. i very much suspect the actual driver behind http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2018-07-04#1831652 mystery is the fucking air, or something, makes the locals subtly suicidal.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-04#1940507 << you should actually see vienna. all i used to know about how "things are" from my days in olde yurp, 100% confirmed, just as i was starting to doubt.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-04 23:32:29 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: back in '17 when dulap-I crater was still smoking , asciilifeform wanted to try ro . but mp_en_viaje said that it was poor site, and i'm inclined to think that he had good reason to say this.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-04#1940500 << well, i dun currently host there, nor have i in the interval.
mp_en_viaje: ow, half a year later, that anyone anywhere actually believes norway is a rich country. i've not encountered poverty like that since egypt, yet people actually believe this, that norwegians are not the bottom of the desperation pile.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-04#1940496 << problem with orcs, that even evaluating their poverty is impossible from a distance, gotta go there first. much more competent and capable at "giving the impression of" than actually doing the thing they're giving impressions of, by design and deliberately constructed. i can't fucking comprehend, even n
mp_en_viaje: http://trilema.com/2013/eulora-august-update/#comment-94603 << hey diana_coman looksy what i found. you want that guy's email maybe ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-02-11 23:46:30 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's dumber, schmuck's like "hi there, i r anon please delete my name". how fucking stupid does he need to be, "anon" is not listed there.
mp_en_viaje: this is a judgment much akin to, "look, in your locale enel spa is the energy provider, monopoly by law, you're buying energy from them" "i'd have to look for my contract" "no, actually, you don't have to. i can tell you from ten thousand miles away, on this basis"
mp_en_viaje: i do not believe it is possible the dc in question has any kind of alternative, on the simple basis of their asn being shown to peer with nobody other than antel, which is specifically uruguay's state monopoly on data transport.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-05 01:27:12 mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, i suppose the next step is to go through the list of ixps see where you can sit.
snsabot: I am bot version 597858.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'd prefer to do these via 1) 2nd nic 2) tomorrow
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: possibly, but i'ma also have to sleep shortly.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: when dulap is accessible, i'ma ask BingoBoingo to reserve a coupla spare ip for it.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: back in '17 when dulap-I crater was still smoking , asciilifeform wanted to try ro . but mp_en_viaje said that it was poor site, and i'm inclined to think that he had good reason to say this.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-05 01:27:12 mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, i suppose the next step is to go through the list of ixps see where you can sit.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-04 17:48:11 asciilifeform: ( evidently somewhere do exist 'serious adult' carriers, i.e. where mp_en_viaje parks his box. but for some reason he sent BingoBoingo to uy, and not to there )
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-04#1940365 << i don't even recall now how uy was picked. must've been a lsit and some sorta process
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, i suppose the next step is to go through the list of ixps see where you can sit.
BingoBoingo: Thank you. I guess I'm going to have to do the only things I can right now. 1. eat some food 2. Take a walk, etc and try to have burned more calories in activity today than stress 3. Go to sleep sober
mp_en_viaje: on any kind of radar, i feel like an idiot showing people a trival example of a saturated pipe and pretending like they should be impressed.
mp_en_viaje: nevermind questions. 1. i am stuck with customers correctly pointing out that my uptime this month will ~maybe~ reach two nines. it'll be a wonder if this outage doesn't put me entirely out of business. 2. do you have any actual substantial anything to point to, because brandishing about "hostile" and "attack" and etcetera empty wordage isn't doing anything for me. in particular 20mbps for a few minutes doesn't even register
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-04 21:34:03 mp_en_viaje: "either you get your shit together or i move on, pick exactly one."
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: Thank you. I am wondering if there's any questions I missed short of going straight to http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-04#1940463
mp_en_viaje: 3. What carriers run fiber to the datacenter? I would like to know what all the connectivity options available are. << dawg ffs, i showed you them.
mp_en_viaje: "either you get your shit together or i move on, pick exactly one."
mp_en_viaje: "I would like to know what options are available going forward" is about 500 words too many for the simple concept of
mp_en_viaje: the reason i asked about the graphs was because, eg, "Oscar helpfully shared graphs showing particular IP addresses being hit with substantial, apparently hostile incoming traffic with targeted at a few IPs in the IP range." is entirely false.
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, if you're gonna send as is anyway, why the fyuck am i reading it
asciilifeform: ftr this is longest dulap outage since dulap-I was blackbagged.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I fired it off
BingoBoingo: I have no idea what te vertical represents
asciilifeform: presently i suspect that we would not have even ~noticed~ this nonsense if they hadn't unplugged
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: I did not post the graphs yet, will post
mp_en_viaje: Oscar helpfully shared graphs showing particular IP addresses being hit << were these in here and i missed ?
asciilifeform: i've had industrial pipes cut out for whole biz day on acct of backhoe. but this aint a backhoe, backhoes make some sorta sense. this dun make sense.
asciilifeform: this was ( and continues, dulap still dead ) a maddeningly sovokesque experience, where we pay vendor for fish 'that's what they don't have at the fish counter' but short of borrowing mp_en_viaje's freighter and laying own fiber i can't presently think of a final solution to it
BingoBoingo: <mp_en_viaje> what's a firewall gonna do in this context ?! << I have no idea wtf a firewall is supposed to do against an inbound DDoS
lobbes: in any case, no live auctions atm. I can let it sit for a minute
lobbes: asciilifeform, heh I saw. Though I'm just a customer; I'll respect BB's wishes if he wants to ban naked joins for the time being
asciilifeform: lobbes: the cloaks thing is 100% red herring, i have a deliberate bait running for 2+h nao naked, and 0 floods
lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-04#1940398 << this would be auctionbot. I dun presently have a cloak for it, so feel free to just kill the process (it is running in sbcl) and that should prevent any naked joins. I can move bot to a non-piz box in the interim
BingoBoingo: I also just received http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=4nFG "We can have a call next Monday, if that is OK with your schedule. We think that a firewall will help you with this type of problems."
BingoBoingo: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=MHHw << Here is a draft of what I have so far to send. asciilifeform mp_en_viaje I would like your input. Please let me know if anything is missing.
asciilifeform: i'ma take a walk an' come back.
BingoBoingo: I keep playing this fucking game of telephone with Latecho/Antel
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'm starting to suspect that your theory re irc bots dun hold water
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I'm working on putting together a draft for that. Before I send it, I will paste it in channel because I would like serious feedback to make sure I am putting the right questions and pressure on them.
BingoBoingo: I suspect 1. blip in Pizarro network causes big batch of IRC reconnects, 2. Pretext to walk IPs emerges, hitting ips from /join messages during window
BingoBoingo: There doesn't seem to be any non-Gossip protocol solution to DDoS. As far as I can cleave the problems right now Latcho/Antel's inept handling of DDoS is one problem. Denying cheap cover to DDoS'r is other problem.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i would also like to find a solution that is cheaper than 'switch continents' . but 'cloak bots and pray to satan that enemy doesn't realize that he already knows the piz ip range' aint any kind of solution !! at all
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i aint about to use sslism.