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DanTheBitcoinMan: Yeah, the BFL Bet was beautiful.
DanTheBitcoinMan: Yeah, they'd manipulate and dumb to oblivion to win the bet, last ditch effort if it got big enough
mircea_popescu: this worked historically with bfl, stuck them for a decent sum
DanTheBitcoinMan: Ah, nevermind I completely didn't think about that.
mircea_popescu: DanTheBitcoinMan the idea is for the proponent of the scamcoin in question to put btc down on it.
BingoBoingo: DanTheBitcoinMan: I'm not a BitBet mod, but a short on XPY with small stakes looks like Garza looking to rob again
DanTheBitcoinMan: So many idiots out there supporting this blatant scam, surely they would bet on it. Kind of like how the BFL Monarch delivery bet went.
DanTheBitcoinMan: I see, but I thought it would attract some good betting action.
BingoBoingo: DanTheBitcoinMan: BitBet tends to reject bets unlikely to attract betting action
DanTheBitcoinMan: https://bitbet.us/propositions/ , the latest.
DanTheBitcoinMan: Trying to get rich off the XPY cult
BingoBoingo: ^ Won't expire like dpaste at the least
BingoBoingo: Fuck, is deedbot just too good of an idea to live
cazalla: well, in its absence, i have 2 people who are aware what that hash represents so it should work for a time stamp eh?
mircea_popescu: trinque was going to fix the bizarro counterintuitive interface last we went through this
cazalla: is that right or just no confirmation unless included in block?
mircea_popescu: http://www.kroah.com/log/blog/2014/01/15/kdbus-details/ btw, re the linus thing
BingoBoingo: Near the end of the last boom, they were building them to about the lifespan of American cars.
mircea_popescu: <Vexual> sounds like some good investigative journalism << very much this cazalla
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> (or rather, upper bound thereof) << your house doesn't collapse the moment a tile hanger in the bathroom falls off, but still,
assbot: Various kinds of stickiness pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1EauKBX )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform re the entire "shitgnome doesn't give up", you ever read http://trilema.com/2013/various-kinds-of-stickiness/#footnote_1_46308 ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Is that Kimbo Slice?
BingoBoingo: Vexual: Situation in this case is being handled politely
Vexual: dang that was quick
cazalla: OK, i know who the supposed winner of the 27k is
Vexual: thats the nature of theft
Vexual: its not funny really, the coins were stolen under duress, but you know
Vexual: youll need a secretarty that sounds like shes ovulating, and a jeb bush voice
Vexual: why not call the sherrif, stephen colbert wallpaer is either a derranged fag or a troll
cazalla: perhaps this person simply handle the coins on behalf of another and did not buy himself, i dunno, wild goose chase tbh
Vexual: sounds like some good investigative journalism, when did they get the money to afford such a bid tho?
cazalla: Vexual, attempting to dox mysterious winner of usms auction or at least someone connected to it
Vexual: are you doxxing somes or does qntra do fantail wrappers now? coz i think i know this
Vexual: well considering shafts and orbits, cruising in a sub is possibly the best of both worlds if money isn't an option
BingoBoingo: If you have a chance to resolve your deficit swiftly versus waiting for a problem to happen, doing the former offers leverage while doing the latter lets fucking New England win the superbowl.
assbot: In Partial Defense of the Seahawks’ Play Calling ... ( http://bit.ly/1MrOR2h )
BingoBoingo: Still, escape is more reliable for the same reason this "security" talking head is wrong https://freedom-to-tinker.com/blog/felten/in-partial-defense-of-the-seahawks-play-calling/
asciilifeform: (or rather, upper bound thereof)
asciilifeform: find the smallest number
asciilifeform: at any rate, basic formula that ought to put things in picture: take the mtbf of each life-critical piece of mechanism in your bunker
asciilifeform: Vexual: unless you're in particularly favourable geography (e.g. iceland) - the cost is roughly equal to orbit
Vexual: if you're digging deep, why not go to the hot rocks and steam power?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Most of Iowa is set upon a radio material goldmine, atm it is ust more economical to get food from the topsoil
asciilifeform: sell the Pu, buy a cuba.
BingoBoingo: Granted this is all easier if you conceed to having an RTG or twenty somewhere on the property.
asciilifeform: and what the mtbf of your turbine is
asciilifeform: and how much, e.g., diesel this translates into
asciilifeform: the concept of clandestine 'farm' with electric lights is a sufficiently familiar one that folks ought to be able to take a napkin calculation and say
BingoBoingo imagines better layout than popular belief one is modest wood frame farmhouse with "bunker" portion used as underground farm/garage
asciilifeform: instead of taking twenty seconds to find well-documented fortifications built in recent history, as many photos, drawings as could ever wish
asciilifeform: my mind is still reeling that anyone, anywhere, might have swallowed the '3000 sq. ft for two dozen people', 'grow room' the size of bedroom, idiot hollywood 'motorcycle garage' and 'gun vault', etc. ☟︎
asciilifeform invites aficionados of the subject to study what bunkers that were built by folks who weren't strangers to arithmetic looked like, what was inside, how long expected to function, under what kind of pushback, etc.
mircea_popescu: "solution to problem X"
asciilifeform: except in the 'fuck you i'm a dragon' (tm) sense, i suppose
asciilifeform: death bunker is not substantially the same thing as escape
asciilifeform: but sorta failing to grasp precisely which.
asciilifeform: i get that it's a price signal
mircea_popescu: substantially the same thing wil lcost substyantially the same in a free market. and this is one.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> the funny thing is, that the cost of a reasonable death bunker is nearly equal to the cost of escape. << if you think about it, this is necessarily so.
BingoBoingo: It would, but requires sinking more costs on expendables. Considering indirect air travel.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: If I did foot the whole way still ~3-4 months late, not counting the antihills of the Darien
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: if you start now, could make it to next year's.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I'm still on the wade through mud plan.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> the funny thing is, that the cost of a reasonable death bunker is nearly equal to the cost of escape. << Yeah, seems at least as much as cost of escape.
asciilifeform: (taken as an approximate thing)
BingoBoingo: Then again the last really big LSD production bust in the US if I recall correctly was an Atlas-F silo used pretty much this way
asciilifeform: the funny thing is, that the cost of a reasonable death bunker is nearly equal to the cost of escape.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I've actually though that kindest thing to do for customers in this market would be standard grain silo pointing down (jsut like missile silo) full of rye. At least can trip balls or have mash to distil before doom
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: there's ordinary chumpatronics, where someone at least showed a bit of effort, and there's utter rubbish that falls apart after thinking about it for ten seconds if you've half a clue
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: You've watch computer engineering long enough to know reality doesn't sell. Charging+Input port sells. Reflective screens sell. Actual reality doesn't sell.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i have no idea who the chumpatronicists in question are, or what they charge, but the drawings show that none of it has any relation to physical reality
mircea_popescu: dude got some pretty slick moves with da ladies i'll tell you that.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Especially lulzy since the already built nike garages go for ~$75k where one would need only hang drywall
assbot: I'll pay for your tits pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1CnVtLn )
mircea_popescu: hey, tell her i'm a fan, see if she'll do http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/
BingoBoingo: 2/3rd the square footage adds shooting range and "quarantine" room http://www.ultimatebunker.com/wp-content/uploads/6000-sq-ft-underground-bunker.jpg
BingoBoingo: Although in that example with their allocation of floor space I like how they in a historically justified manner unspokenly conceed the "dental Room" to all manner of surgery
asciilifeform: one inevitably concludes that it grows only ganja for the occupants
BingoBoingo: The prefab end times bunker honeypot
asciilifeform: or wtf is that honeypot
BingoBoingo: One good indicator though is people of the cloth who go for this sort of chumpatron are too be avoided http://www.ultimatebunker.com/wp-content/uploads/9000-sq-ft-underground-bunker.jpg
BingoBoingo: Anything too new or independent tends to attract investigations for any number of reasons.
asciilifeform: caveat is that the ancient truce whereby usg would not openly fuck with a church - no longer really holds
BingoBoingo: In USia there is a golden middle of Churches, generally for resource use you want an installation which is part of a larger mainline organization which happens to be helmed by a person favorable to yourself.
asciilifeform: complete with massive circa-1920s boilers that didn't work
asciilifeform: i was briefly a member of a kind of electronics club that met in a huge old church
asciilifeform: many such properties in u.s. cities are hard up for cash and will rent as much as half the premises to random folks
asciilifeform: incidentally, if you want a mailing address inside an actual, historically-mapped church - it is trivial to arrange.
asciilifeform: using the same 'church' as 100,000 other would-be spamatronicists - fail.
BingoBoingo: Sure any idiot can print a card, but special is the third pary that will keep a record of having issued such a card and affording it officialdom.
asciilifeform: incidentally, dye-sub card printers are plentiful on 'ebay' and the like.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: In plaintext best to attribute things to the imagination. Various other credentials that legitimate religious organization offers work well for prisons, nursing homes, other institutions....
asciilifeform: where, exactly, does one get in by virtue of having such a thing, that you would wish to go ?
asciilifeform was not involved in broadcast chumpatronics in any way, even remotely, but ended up having paycheques issued by one such thing by sheer accident
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: wtf is the point of the faux 'press' card ?
danielpbarron: stoya was here ?! << is this the stoya you were thinking of? -> https://twitter.com/danielpbarron/status/575129423097147392
cazalla: ah nevermind, in the logs..
assbot: Logged on 11-03-2015 00:12:42; cazalla: TIL danielpbarron is mircea_popescu
cazalla: <mircea_popescu> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2015#1048025 << wait wut ?! <<< reference to some guy you might know and have written about before named tim swanson who thought danielpbarron was you, occurred on twitter ☝︎