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ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: did you pay to have a block mined including your transaction before sending the dup?
PeterL: danielpbarron yes, but that would require there to be something rotten to fight against, I think mircea_popescu is just jumping at shadows
asciilifeform: in light of mircea_popescu's hypothesis.
PeterL: are you saying mircea_popescu is an idiot?
assbot: Logged on 02-03-2016 16:35:04; mircea_popescu: you have to understand that the direct correlate of "bitcoin protocol is nowhere" is that i'm stuck sitting here wasting tons of resources and various people's time doing an endless array of stupid or plain weird shit to see what happens to try and understand what's what.
asciilifeform: tbh i'm a little surprised that mircea_popescu was pinching pennies on tx fees
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'd be curious re: what the 'technical solution' is.
jurov: yes, because as opposed to mircea_popescu i did read the code closely and it does maintain chains of unconfirmed transactions
assbot: Logged on 02-03-2016 17:15:50; mircea_popescu: kakobrekla yes, by the time the 4th txn trying to pay out bitbet vanished without a trace, i was sort-of expecting it.
asciilifeform: but if mircea_popescu coughts up a (c), i'll enjoy reading.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you cannot solve the problem of hygiene with technological means, no.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: trb didn't even get off the runway until magic constants, recall.
asciilifeform: which we (other than mircea_popescu) have nfi what it does.
asciilifeform: ahahahahaha so we have mircea_popescu's mpb mysterymeat in the mix.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> historically i thought this is just random variance between divergent implementations, but now i think it's a single unit behaviour modulated somehow << Could be turdacious relay network or it's replacement's evil
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha, which is why i did not ring the alarm.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is not a thing you can actually do
punkman: mircea_popescu: which implementations would accept a replacement tx with a fee, assuming they still have the 0fee tx in mempool
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: granted, i have nfi what the heathens run.
assbot: Satoshi asciilifeform_add_verifyall_option/src/main.h ... ( http://bit.ly/1VQCwsA )
assbot: Logged on 02-03-2016 16:20:40; mircea_popescu: the protocol is that 0 fee txn can't even be relayed.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-03-2016#1420119 << this is untrue. >> http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/main.h?v=asciilifeform_add_verifyall_option#0526 ☝︎
PeterL: mircea_popescu ^
assbot: Logged on 02-03-2016 15:54:27; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i do not believe in singlehandedness.
asciilifeform: and the remainder was sourced, i think, from something mircea_popescutronic, as almost all of my coin in fact is.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform was it sourced from bitbet payouts ? i recall pete_dushenski saying the same happened to him, originally blamed it on multibit.
assbot: Logged on 01-03-2016 23:32:18; mircea_popescu: i personally think the only reason it's not mined yet is that there hasn't been a block.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: lemme guess, you have the thermonuke ready and loaded ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: chinese cockroach demolition derby when ?
PeterL: mircea_popescu: so the Jeb Bush bet winners were sent their winnings twice? Does that 16 btc go as a loss on the bitbet books?
jurov: ;;later tell ben_vulpes till the cache hasn't cleared, use http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/bitcoinrpc.cpp?v=0.5.3.1 instead
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes> BingoBoingo: what does all of this mean << replace byt fee, sorta a poor man's version of your original "run a pool!"
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Yes
hanbot: hey mircea_popescu, is it okay if i defer this month's pc4 report and combine in april? ☟︎
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Haven't really noticed it yet
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes is drinkng?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes aha. the americans did what they do best - lost.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes understand, this isn't a field that takes well to distribution.
mircea_popescu: on what miners ben_vulpes ?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i have no idea.
mircea_popescu: ftr ben_vulpes the c spelling is antiquated but english!
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: why would the cartel have picked up the original 0 fee transaction instead of the feeful later?
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: nm, fxd
mod6: <+ben_vulpes> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-03-2016#1419829 << with phf's patch (are you going to post that to the ML or shall i?), my post-clean compile takes 1m 16s << im not aware of phf's patch. i did recompile with shiva when it was first introduced, didn't add or subtract any compile time as far as I could tell. ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: astonishing, how the same old crud comes back again, again.
mod6: ben_vulpes: ahh. ok
ben_vulpes: mod6: this is 'rotor_bitcoin_only.sh' in the rotor tarball
BingoBoingo: !up _FeltPen
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: ty, fxd
punkman: mircea_popescu: were the disappeared transactions low-s btw?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It's how the html you submitted parses. Looks legible even if some line spacing is weird. I just assumed you did that for emphasis.
mod6: mircea_popescu: interesting day re-betbet txn & miner witholding.
assbot: Logged on 01-03-2016 08:54:01; ben_vulpes: i am also curious to hear about how long the bitcoind recompile is in your various workflows, asciilifeform, phf, mod6, punkman, jurov
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://qntra.net/2016/03/a-miner-problem/#comment-47559
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i had this exact same experience when making the alphago bet. only difference is that malleation was involved.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Apparently the dude sold the site to another dude and retroactively converted the sale into a lease by claiming US copyright law.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Cool, ty
asciilifeform: (unless mircea_popescu wants to do it himself, which in his place i probably would)
jurov: mircea_popescu: mpex.biz does not recognize my sig and mpex.site threw error 500
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what do the miners win from this behaviour ?
assbot: Logged on 01-03-2016 23:27:41; mircea_popescu: anyway. miners must be broken, burned and the land fucking salted.
assbot: Logged on 01-03-2016 23:16:38; mircea_popescu: the problem is broadly speaking that bitcoin is not actually fit for commerce, and that fixing it necessarily requires changing the pow to exclude f2pool/antpool/etc.
assbot: Logged on 01-03-2016 21:39:15; mircea_popescu: that trump thing's on fire
mircea_popescu: and in other usda news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/d66ceb781a14c8f70b3183b999b9ba4a/tumblr_mmput3xwme1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg
thestringpuller: thx ben_vulpes
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: dulap is not only platform for phuctor, but will host 'g', gossip, etc., and is presently the largest and most reliable trb battleship. and i will pay for it personally, because wtf.
asciilifeform: initially, mircea_popescu propelled the sled
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: snsa is supposed to drag phuctor as a sled behind it
ben_vulpes: and what is 'cdb' mircea_popescu ?
asciilifeform: anyway mircea_popescu signed addr plox.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu himself taught us, 'dont't be poorfag'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: gimme an addr, i'll pay for it myself until it is +ev.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: virtually nothing to do with computing, works.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i deal in boards that spontaneously turn into radioactive weevils.
trinque: mircea_popescu: ah
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the situation you described is called 'skilled labour' and it is how i eat.
asciilifeform: trinque: the fella on the left hand side is you, i recall. right hand - i think might be mircea_popescu ?
asciilifeform: i thought mircea_popescu taught us that odin will smite those who hire hirelings
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu is hiring a what ?
asciilifeform: out of curiosity, what failures has mircea_popescu observed that can be reliably attributed to shit hardware ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: tx tends to be slow nowadays due to crapolade flood
mircea_popescu: and in other news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/2101614620ddddd2978e7e6ce64dc1d4/tumblr_mmuc4eEsgJ1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg
jurov: and maybe some other stuff you forgot :_
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu is clearly not an aztec.
assbot: Logged on 18-05-2015 19:48:18; ascii_field: 'It doesn't work when Nadia Heninger goes to sell Phuctor before Stanford - Nadia Heninger doesn't own Phuctor, and the actual owners are very much present and very much capable to bitchslap her into oblivion.' << actually, 'crime pays.' chick gets a phd and cushy sinecure, etc.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu ^
assbot: Logged on 01-03-2016 08:52:51; ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-02-2016#1395250 << asciilifeform what was the actual trigger for the blackhole? requesting a specific transaction?
assbot: Logged on 01-03-2016 14:04:40; mircea_popescu: $30 a night ?! such can't be had in all of buenos aires.
assbot: Logged on 01-03-2016 14:04:10; assbot: Logged on 01-03-2016 09:02:12; ben_vulpes: there's only so much damage the little fuckling can do in 485 ft2
assbot: Logged on 01-03-2016 14:18:16; mircea_popescu: then i went into them financially and they actually burned a few millions propping it up, and that pretty much brings us to the present day.
assbot: Logged on 01-03-2016 14:43:25; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-03-2016#1418901 <<< i was certainly never in a bed with a woman and her 80 lb "lovedog" before, whatever that may mean.
assbot: Logged on 01-03-2016 15:10:48; mircea_popescu: lol. brace yourself, that's also coming.
assbot: Logged on 01-03-2016 13:55:33; assbot: Logged on 19-02-2016 15:24:53; mircea_popescu: * #freenode :Cannot send to channel
assbot: Logged on 01-03-2016 13:54:05; mircea_popescu: o brother. i've been trying to give servers and stuff to the freenode shitheads for YEARS
asciilifeform: either that or mircea_popescu is using a 486...
assbot: Logged on 01-03-2016 13:44:43; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-03-2016#1418803 << about 18-20 minutes.
jurov: deedbot-: http://explo.yt/public/fmpif_201602.txt.asc
phf: ben_vulpes: i don't ever touch dependencies, so 40s for a full rebuilt
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: I don't even know what people are revolting about anymore. It's like watching #occupy wall street with BTC
assbot: Logged on 01-03-2016 13:42:04; assbot: Logged on 01-03-2016 06:02:07; ben_vulpes: flycheck just deleted the contents of an entire buffer