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adlai: kernel as in trick?
asciilifeform: trinque: he believed in 'conservation of sovereignty' (as if energy)
asciilifeform: the_scourge: you can now self-voice, as described in the assbot manual (message it with !up)
thestringpuller: so will raising VC capital soon be viewed as a negative sign for a company
mircea_popescu: as soros proved for the benefit of the bank of england.
mircea_popescu: you can always derive a profit by attacking unmonetized goods, or rather ; by exploiting the false claim of anyone putting forth an unmonetized good as money.
assbot: The woes of Altcoin, or why there is no such thing as "cryptocurrencies" pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1IGVwSi )
mircea_popescu: the particulars are discussed in http://trilema.com/2014/the-woes-of-altcoin-or-why-there-is-no-such-thing-as-cryptocurrencies/
asciilifeform: (possible criminal complaint if you don't pay, and referred to collections apparatus as a civil debt)
jurov: yes, saving it as txt would help. but best to fix it for once.
mircea_popescu: should i force clearsigned material be saved as .txt ?
mircea_popescu: well it is not text, technically, because you can also send it as binary.
mircea_popescu: jurov oh as opposed to attached ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: turdatron, as originally built, expects a pattern like this: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-February/000040.html
mircea_popescu: anyway, explain to me like i'm slow, there's a problem with the thing as presented ?
asciilifeform: chetty: expect this number to reach 99+ as the residual fucks given re: political apparatus waft away
the_scourge: oh wait, i've only set up my gpg key, do i need to associate a bitcoin address as well?
the_scourge: this definitely had ntp as well
asciilifeform: it is actually a bit hard to take a proper capture of ddos (as in, all or even most of the packets) with common equipment
the_scourge: um... recently? as in the last 5 hours? :)
mircea_popescu: just as long as i get back the control, i see no problem with !derp!herp!router!alf
mircea_popescu: jurov resent, with signed material attached as file. still nothing there apparently.
mircea_popescu: jurov btw i can guarantee my client did no skullduggery to the email. i have the outgoing saved as sent by the mta.
jurov: in any webmail, you can save the finished message as draft and then try to gpg verify the text. that should take care of 90% of above problems
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: jurov: without so much as a burp. << you knoiw you keep saying this, but it's an email drop. how would you want it to burp ?
mircea_popescu: currently doing something on sillycon funds with gmaxwell as a public whore.
asciilifeform: jurov: if i attach it as attachment, will it display as normal message in turdatron (special case rule ?)
jurov: everyone PLEASE either wordwrap text before signing, or attach it as file so that email client as no chance to munge it (you can leave empty body then)
asciilifeform: jurov: without so much as a burp.
trinque: the whole document store thing too, that's just looking at the net, accepting it as gospel
asciilifeform misread as 'Waffen DB'
trinque: lets not invent a database poorly as part of the problem
trinque: maybe when the deturdulation is all said and done, the act of programming against the thing can be improved as well
asciilifeform: decimation: as part of the traditional protocol, yes
mircea_popescu: the fact that someone has a port open matters about as much as the fact someone scribbled something on github/wikipedia/we
asciilifeform: but that it be performed, now and again, as a scientific enterprise
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i do not grasp how one could see the 1848 revolts as failed.
asciilifeform: how many folks in usa can survive a month w/out 'business as usual' (mains, fuel, water, just-in-time deliveries to local 'food' shops)
asciilifeform: as it does not guarantee that the 'generals' march simultaneously or in any useful pattern at all
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the rebellion thing is not a cowardice problem as such but actually a byzantine generals problem.
mircea_popescu: fine. just as long as we all stop pretending like this is "impossible" and we understand that it's quite possible, perfectly feasible and practically effective.
decimation: http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/surveillance-national-rifle-association-cars-license-plates/2015/01/28/id/621159/ << " The National Rifle Association is investigating reports that a leading federal agent proposed using license-plate readers to scan vehicles at gun shows as part of a gun-trafficking crackdown."
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: your advice makes the same amount of sense as solzhenitsyn's
mircea_popescu: decimation pity they don't have the backbone (and leadership) to start a cash only program, and publicly denounce banking as a scam.
decimation: "The House Oversight and Government Reform Committee released a report last month showing the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) targeted gun dealers and other businesses like payday lenders and pawn shops as illegal operations, and pressured banks to halt dealing with these businesses. The administration’s program is now known as Operation Choke Point, which is run by the Departments of Justice and Treasury."
Vexual: einstein would be sitting there, drunk as fuck in austria, thinking, "nah thats the same shit"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nobody lost his job as ubs cio by doing old idiocy
assbot: Introducing new "the only official foundation of Bitcoin" [sign up as president] ... ( http://bit.ly/1Dz6wQr )
asciilifeform: the escrow can have -only one- purpose - to let nice folks at usg forge packets as 'provably' from your house.
asciilifeform: satoshi's miner is valuable for the same reason as the rest of that piece of shit
decimation: ah "The CM MUST have two factory installed CM Device Certificates (and their associated private keys). The CM MUST have a CM Device Certificate installed that is issued from the new PKI. The CM MUST have a CM Device Certificate installed that is issued from the legacy PKI. The CM MUST have the same RSA public key in the CM Device Certificate as the RSA public key in the BPKM Attributes depending upon which CM Device Certificate is
Vexual: even if just to check if your dna is the same as when you arrived
asciilifeform: and, what gets used as the block cipher ?
mircea_popescu: it doesn't really need as much.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it needs roughly same resources as a good spamatron
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Glub&defid=4862930 | Tipping a narrow necked bottle of olive oil upside down in an attempt to pour a greater quantity which results in a "glub" sound as air fills the bottle replacing the  ...
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as it is, it's a fallback after dns (snipped in patch i proposed last night) and irc mechanizms.
mod6: well, but also, i like i was saying, it's inconsistant. because TomServo has checkpoints included and he got through the gauntlet, and I did as well lastweek before the version patch.
asciilifeform: as described in http://therealbitcoin.org/mailman/listinfo/btc-dev
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so how doers this work, email to address, gz in attachment, clearsigned text as email body ?
asciilifeform: as big fat gz
asciilifeform uses bitcoin as a scientific toy, curio, but if he had been firing it in anger for years as mircea_popescu had, would have finished own implementation eons ago
asciilifeform: not proclaiming a molested britneychain as proven fact yet, but if it had been, it would look rather much like this.
mod6: We wanted to collect as much data as possible before we let other know in #b-a. Hence the delay until now.
asciilifeform: cuntbearer << can't help but imagine this as something like a cupbearer
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: and it reads as the usual tedium because it -was- same, with words swapped
mircea_popescu: he seems to be proposing the notion that saying she when i mean a cuntbearer is about as bad as inventing a special ble pronoun to denote a guy's color
asciilifeform: mr h was trying, as a young academic in usa, to troll liberasts without being stoned to death immediately
mircea_popescu: ith this piece, despite-but also because of-its shock value. I think it makes its point better than any factual article could. As a friend of mine said, "It makes you so uncomfortable that you can't ignore it." I admit that rereading it makes even me, the author, uncomfortable! Numerous friends have warned me that in publishing this piece I am taking a serious risk of earning myself a reputation as a terrible racist. I
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no but looky : "Perhaps this piece shocks you. It is meant to. The entire point of it is to use something that we find shocking as leverage to illustrate the fact that something that we usually close our eyes to is also very shocking. The most effective way I know to do so is to develop an extended analogy with something known as shocking and reprehensible. Racism is that thing, in this case. I am happy w
mod6: but, its weird, because a week ago i ran a full sync of: v0.5.3 + {1, rm_rf_upnp, 2, 3, 4, 6} and sync'd just fine, as you can see in the matrix notes (was able to send/receive here: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=FSA9gxs8)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it occurs that at 4mb, nodes can be run as virii by now without problems
asciilifeform: even if you absolutely need it somewhere (e.g., bitcoind as malware payload)
jurov: yes, as a separate daemon
asciilifeform: jurov: you know, upnp can run as a separate daemon
mircea_popescu: that's quite right : nobody ovulating today will get as far as sara mccune.
mircea_popescu: i tell you, within twenty years if that as much as having been interested in the left will be a hanging offense.
trinque: today as back then, you can bootstrap yourself so long as you're prepared to lay brick by hand for a half decade
jurov: and it was the first thing excised... it will ran as standalone daemon, i guess
asciilifeform: dh is best known as an american/eng author, but iirc his native lang is fr. on account of peculiar upbringing. and he knows plenty of others.
asciilifeform: i do happen to know something about those. usually they exist as a little flea on the back of a larger flea, sometimes three or four fleas in a circuit
asciilifeform: theoretically - if registrar won't pull, we can regard the shilling as a proven fact
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know that's just a general support email, and the connection between fenton and fdvt is about the same as between reddit feminist incel and starbucks
asciilifeform: mike_c: iirc you can only offer one seed in the conf as of 0.5.3 ?
asciilifeform: the irc thing is a chokepoint. in my head it counts as 1 hardcoded node, really
asciilifeform: and, much as it is intriguing that so many nodes still hang out on irc bitcoin-xx channel, that thing doesn't belong in the RI
asciilifeform: so people are going to download this file by IP address << can come straight from the fuhrer's arsehole, so long as it's signed by genuine foundation
asciilifeform: the_scourge: i occasionally use it as a healthier, low-tar substitute for perl
asciilifeform: PeterL: having hardcoded seeds is, in my opnion, a silly way of doing things << what do you suggest as an alternative? how is the proggy to know what exists anywhere without a hardcoded something or other
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller well, romania as a sovereign nation was mostly constructed around this event where the czar declared war on the turks on the fumes of imagining himself like the germans, and buying the british propaganda about the "dead man of europe". the turks were the origina lrhodesia.
mircea_popescu: stress test the system, as it were. see what happens when there's i dunno, 500k pps ddos, but not from wordpress to me.
thestringpuller: kinda like Michael Scott from the Office just not as dimwitted.
mircea_popescu: "Organized by Bruce Fenton of the Bitcoin Association and Atlantic Financial, participants in the first annual Satoshi Roundtable include top executives from companies such as Blockchain, BitGo, BitPesa, Chain, ChangeTip, Coinapult and MegaBigPower, as well as noted VCs in the space such as Erik Voorhees and Roger Ver."
asciilifeform: trinque: gentoo is as good as operator. you can excise the crud permanently and from everything running.
asciilifeform: dnsseed snip should work for -any-, as it only concerns net.cpp
TomServo: danielpbarron: as I understand, with upnp being clipped IRC was the remaining node discovery mechanism
thestringpuller: I missed the "exciting part" as I drove home. No radio station was giving highlights.
mircea_popescu: as if that's how the world works, old men get what they want for wanting it.
coderwill: trinque: but years ago, i must admit that i played so much that my eyes would tear as if i were crying or something
mircea_popescu: "The anti-fork crowd mostly consists of a small minority of ego-maniacal, 1% wannabees who want to keep Bitcoin as a niche market for elitist whales because it suits their vested interests. "