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mircea_popescu: ascii_field ahem.
the us is sitting on a lot of unearned mineral resources and unraped land. like say, alaska.
ascii_field: and jurov is right - from nato-world standpoint, ru is holding
the rest of
the planet back - by annoyingly remaining alive and sitting on all
that 'unearned' mineral resource and unraped land
mircea_popescu: ascii_field an advantageous explanation would be :
they knew
they didn't do it, so...
jurov: no
that's sop, RT rushed with its version likewise
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ascii_field: jurov: do you not find it peculiar
that
the verdict was decided on by nato media immediately, without
the corpses so much as having even cooled down ?
ascii_field: jurov: admitting
that i wasn't
there, didn't shoot it,
mircea_popescu: you shouldn't go around logged into
the windows equivalent of root.
mircea_popescu: lobbes well actually, since a bunch of uninformed idiots are creating
the problem in
the first place, adding more resolves it rather
than anything.
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mircea_popescu: all it
takes is
to make inner city clinic prescriptions for "medication" contingent on voting card.
mircea_popescu: ostensibly
to give
them candy or something.
THAT
they will know about.
mircea_popescu: chetty same way
they do here, or anywhere else for
that matter : bus
them in.
chetty: Saw a poll
that 50% of americans still don't know health insurance is mandatory, wonder how
they would pull off mandatory voting?
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mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo or anyone inclined, can we have a qntra piece discussing why
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-03-2015#1057797 is an attempted self-boon by fiat, which bitcoin will ignore like all
the others ? and warn reuters and whatever idiot signed it
to dessist from lying and misrepresenting while
they still have
their heads ?
☝︎ mircea_popescu: jurov well... getting idiots
to mind
their own fucking business might be a bridge
too far.
jurov: i did not mean
to
take it
that far
mircea_popescu: jurov so
the idea being
that it's better in one empire
than
the other ?
jurov: just
that russians seem
to stay stuck several centuries ago.
to detriment of everyone.
jurov: but eventually some picture emerges.
that would not be
the case at all in 1600
mircea_popescu: jurov so wait,
the fact
that it was downed by a missile is not disputed ?
then why's
this relevant ?
mircea_popescu: "Investigation into
the chemical composition showed
that
they are remains from a BUK missile, among which fragments from
the warhead –
the pay load.
The fragment of
the warhead consists of a low-quality alloy of steel common
to
this form of ammunition. It appears from electroscopic enlargements
that a fragment shows a cast-on Cyrillic serial number from
the Russian language next
to a partly broken number 2."
mircea_popescu: jurov i don't recall what
the positions were
there, was it
the pro-russians saying
the pro-nato downed it with a jet, and
the pro-nato saying
the pro-russians
took it down with a buk ?
chetty: in 1600
there were still places
to flee
to
mircea_popescu: but in any case : i happen
to
think
the attempt'd do a huge service
to all usians.
ascii_field: seems like
the only item
therein is a 'try;
ascii_field: what does it even mean -
to 'succeed' at being north kr?
mircea_popescu: no, generation of demons and monsters
through masturbation.
mircea_popescu: this seemed a plausible
theory for centuries at a stretch.
mircea_popescu: for all you know sperm
tries
to impregnate
the
tiles everytime someone jacks off.
mircea_popescu: if you were a film producer you would filter
the actors, yet reality doesn't care ?
mircea_popescu: what makes you
think you can make a north kr. with fatties ?
mircea_popescu: this isn't a conflict
that can be won. inasmuch as it's a conflict, it was already lost.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu:
the only reason we know about him is
the gigantic crew of usg photographers and a usg planetary mediachumatron ready
to endlessly reprint
the photo
mircea_popescu: ascii_field
the idea
that as
the skin fails away
the body can move
to a 2nd line of defense is ridiculous. people with burns over 80% of
the surface don't survive on
their own.
mircea_popescu: take, for argument's sake,
the guy in
tienanmen. now,
the cost of
the
tank running him over ? w/e, five cents in detergent and
ten cents in gasoline.
ascii_field: my model is more of a hypothesis re: what
tools usg will pick up when
the usual ones (magick away
the universe with idiot media
tricks) begin
to fail
mircea_popescu: your model's anchored in an older
time, a quieter
time.
mircea_popescu: your model worked fine in a world of lumberjacks and church bell
towers a day's walk away from each other.
mircea_popescu: costs, baby. nothing's more expensive
than action, especially when you're in a swamp.
mircea_popescu: but in any case, her negotiating basis changed, and so now
the victory of
the opposition is incontrovertible.
mircea_popescu: i doubt anyone seriously believes she moves into anything but a jail cell once
term ends.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: plus, everything else, starting with
the press and ending with... who
the fuck wants
to
talk
to her now ? kim ?
mircea_popescu: what was
the cost of
this ?
there's
three working on it now. so
the cost was, superficially, problem x3.
mircea_popescu: take an example further away, may help. so cristina ordered
the death of a prosecutor
that was going
to put her in jail.
mircea_popescu: now, granted, a
transhumanist in
the audience aged about 11 and with an education consisting mostly of harry potter books may
think himself so important
that
this is a bad deal.
ascii_field: unless he hides in putin's house, he'll be disappeared for less
than a whitehouse dinner costs
mircea_popescu: suppose petreus didn't go down for it, went on a snowden
tour. what
then ?
mircea_popescu: they did it
themselves, by doing what you propose is "unavoidable".
ascii_field: outrageous
things such as lowering a general into pederasty, for example
mircea_popescu: but
think for a moment
through it. so, in a country where petreus can't have fun with an ugly stupiod old whore,
there still exist
these people who can do outrageous
things.
ascii_field: used here as illustration
that
the imminent demise of usg and
the broader zombie civilization
that created it, does not separate ulbricht's arse from anthill
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: slightly misunderstanding example.
the ru
tanks emboldened
the rebels, hastening
their deaths
mircea_popescu: you understand ?
the ro revolution was not in
the slightest hindered by
the fact
the ro army
tanks were right
there.
ascii_field: well,
the doom of
the jailers, whatever form it might
take
ascii_field: it did not help warsaw rebellion
that ru
tanks were 2hrs away
mircea_popescu: i am saying
two
things. one is
that your model of "folks involved" is actually inconsistent.
the other is
that for any consistent model,
the -ev is so pronounced as
to make any other alternative rationally preferable.
ascii_field: by 'save' meant
the banal fact
that
to prisoner, his captors may as well be 'the universe'
ascii_field: or is mircea_popescu proposing
that
this is -EV for
the folks involved
mircea_popescu: anyway, back on
the "salvation" angle : is
the doctor who cures your cancer savbing you ? suppose you die coming out of
the hospital run over by a bus. what salvation ?
ascii_field: ulbricht, say, will be listed as 'dead of prison buggery hiv+' in his papers. but in actuality will sit down on
this auto-electric-anthill at langley
mircea_popescu: because your description of
this entity has more in common with
that which doesn't exist
than with
that which does, and so parsimoniously it doesn't exist.
mircea_popescu: people mostly don't believe
the usg statements in
the case of ulbricht. what when
they're actually made up ?
ascii_field: why so certain
that
this is an impossible or even unlikely scenario ?