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mircea_popescu: must suck to be these people.
mircea_popescu: In the mid-1970s F.M. Esfandiary legally[5] changed his name to FM-2030 for two main reasons. Firstly, to reflect the hope and belief that he would live to celebrate his 100th birthday in 2030
decimation: asciilifeform: hey, they have a research program
asciilifeform: decimation: never mind that not one could describe the first thing about building a computer which does not barf regularly
mircea_popescu: Date: Thu, March 19, 2015 11:21 pm
decimation: but fear the great AI demon!
decimation: of course all of them would dismiss the YHWH worshipping Jews and Christians as credulous simpletons
asciilifeform: possibly '3rd rate' is uncharitable. but he is quite unreadable today
mircea_popescu: check out the complexity. fucking fucktards already.
asciilifeform: vinge was (is?) a maths prof who went off the reservation and turned into a 3rd rate sf writer
mircea_popescu: "Extropy also attempts to describe the nature of the order, so a crystal , although highly ordered would have low extropy, but an organism or machine would have high extropy because of the informational structure contained within it. "
asciilifeform has an ancient copy of this, printed on matrix printer, yellowed with ages
mircea_popescu: "and this tree i call jorje".
mircea_popescu: god im sick of fucktarded usians giving their name to random items.
assbot: Vernor Vinge on the Singularity ... ( http://bit.ly/198l4wD )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the actual founding document of mr y's garbage is actually this: http://mindstalk.net/vinge/vinge-sing.html
mircea_popescu: "Extropy is a proposed opposing concept to entropy. As entropy decreases , signifying more order, so extropy would increase in the manner of negentropy."
mircea_popescu: ok, this im reading then
mircea_popescu: Founder of the Extropy Institute, Max More has written many articles espousing the philosophy of transhumanism and the transhumanist philosophy of extropy,[6] most importantly his Principles of Extropy (currently version 3.11)
assbot: ClubOrlov: The Rage of the Cultural Elites ... ( http://bit.ly/1CrL2Jb )
decimation: their produt is 'pay attention to meee'
asciilifeform: using the phrase in the derisive chinese sense
asciilifeform: as seen elsewhere on the planet. cocksucking sycophants of the most degenerate imaginable kind
mircea_popescu: so like... being a playboy model without the tits ?
asciilifeform: ^ them.
mircea_popescu: "Max More (born Max T. O'Connor, January 1964) is a philosopher and futurist who writes, speaks, and consults on advanced decision-making about emerging technologies."
mircea_popescu: who the fuck is max moore is what i wanna know
trinque: triggered for all time!
asciilifeform: he actually proclaimed a fatwa, since deleted (iirc) justifying the murder of anyone who might risk bringing about this situation
trinque: pls don't trigger me
mircea_popescu: how do you abuse the eternal soul ?
trinque: asciilifeform: yudkowski even invented the beast or satan or w/e, that AI that resolves to abuse your eternal soul forever if you oppose it
mircea_popescu: wikipedia is turning into tvtropes.
asciilifeform: when tech was actually kinda moving, '70s-80s, and a number of things looked quasi-plausible with one eye closed
mircea_popescu: dude omfg... this is a parody is it ?
mircea_popescu: "Influenced by seminal works of science fiction, the transhumanist vision of a transformed future humanity has attracted many supporters and detractors from a wide range of perspectives." aaahahahaha
mircea_popescu: basically this is scientology bahai ? do they speak esperanto ?
trinque: it is techno-christianity
mircea_popescu: "This hypothesis would lay the intellectual groundwork for the British philosopher Max More to begin articulating the principles of transhumanism as a futurist philosophy in 1990 and organizing in California an intelligentsia that has since grown into the worldwide transhumanist movement."
asciilifeform: trinque: they have a literal version of this!
trinque: there's gotta be a damn circuit for this shit in the head
trinque: someday we will be caught up in the heavens with white robes, and our bodies will be purified
mircea_popescu: maybe humanity could go to transyale and get a transphd ?
mircea_popescu: no but it's splendid. so they aspire to... names!
mircea_popescu: check it out lmao, an international cultural and intellectual "movement" that aspires to one day... label soemthing!
mircea_popescu: "The most common thesis put forward is that human beings may eventually be able to transform themselves into beings with such greatly expanded abilities as to merit the label posthuman."
mircea_popescu: it's a thing, all this.
asciilifeform: or transesterification ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you don't understand how the world works. "nobody's using bitcoin, nobody could have foreseen their using a plane as a rocket and nobody's doing anything better nor anything better could exist than ... you know, raising awareness"
asciilifeform: no mention of trans fats?
mircea_popescu: "This article is about the futurist ideology and movement. For the critique of humanism, see posthumanism. For the pattern of seasonal migration, see transhumance. For persons experiencing incongruence between their actual gender and the gender assigned to them at birth, see trans man, trans woman, and transgender." << best part imo.
asciilifeform: -zero- actual work on lickliderian or engelbartian 'intelligence amplification' concept from these bozos
mircea_popescu: why so shy you know ? what's wrong with "Transhumanism is Thiel's stab at b-a. He thinks Omidyar's stab at qntra failed for reasons unrelated."
asciilifeform: note that not even remotely true as printed on the crate
mircea_popescu: "Transhumanism (abbreviated as H+ or h+) is an international cultural and intellectual movement with an eventual goal of fundamentally transforming the human condition by developing and making widely available technologies to greatly enhance human intellectual, physical, and psychological capacities."
mircea_popescu: oh, is that it ?
asciilifeform: take it up with thiel
mircea_popescu: i've never seen cancer this organised before.
mircea_popescu: how the fuck does this work.
mircea_popescu: even patently retarded stuff like "Smart contracts" seem preferable by that experience.
mircea_popescu: once people try to be run by a bureaucracy however... god help'em.
trinque: so happens the fan of bureaucracy was female
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mircea_popescu: for as long as bureaucracy = the slaves of peter, or julius, or w/e, that may well work.
mircea_popescu: the other thing is : bureaucracy makes an excellent woman and an applaing man.
asciilifeform: but the only suitable material, in the old days, was meat
asciilifeform: it is how i always explain it to n00bs
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the computer of meat approach may well explain why it sucks so bad since 1900s. not a bad heuristic.
trinque: I recall the self-licking ice cream cone metaphor
trinque: but doing the accumulation as a good in itself seems to be where the insanity lies?
mircea_popescu: voltaire was a great fan, what are you talking about ?
trinque: I can see the point; a space is declared within which rules and processes accumulate
decimation: voltaire, et al weren't exactly fans of the ancien regime
asciilifeform: one might even say: bureaucracy was the first computer
mircea_popescu: sorta like how wolves would make excellent guard dogs, if only they stopped going and killing all the sheep and stayed at the fucking door instead.
mircea_popescu: trinque bureaucracy has its uses. the problem is that the context it'd be useful in and the context in which it thrives are so wildly divorced.
mircea_popescu: trinque that's about where you'd expect it.
decimation: mircea_popescu: but many of the folks in that wot ended up throwing derps into the woodchipper
trinque: I don't know much about rousseau, except that I recall him being mentioned by someone who was arguing bureaucracy was the greatest of all human inventions, and this with utter seriousness
mircea_popescu: (the Dictionnaire raisonne des sciences, des arts, et des metiers. was essentially a b-a of the time fork of human knowledge of the time. it was wildly successful in spite of being mostly wrong)
mircea_popescu: nonsense through and through, but whadda ya want, encyclopedists, ie transhumanists v1.0
trinque: mircea_popescu: sounded like a nothing term to me, meaning "accept that this is so"
mircea_popescu: god isn't the first warrior anymore, which all other warriors owe fealty too, god is now the first contract which all contracts are derived fro
assbot: Logged on 20-03-2015 02:38:35; trinque: PeterL: I was looking for a definition of the phrase
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-03-2015#1058937 << rousseauism, when confronted with "well if the state isn't god's successor, why would anyone listen to it" he came up with a weirdo translation of god in burgeois terms. ☝︎
asciilifeform: his new nick alone was a loud, profane fart in that direction
mircea_popescu: markov how, all the dude was talking about before were genius biznis ideas and stuff.
mircea_popescu: but this is a totally new topic ?
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah he was ringing my markov model too
mod6: yeah. its cool tho
mircea_popescu: neways, five cents here, a cent there etc
mircea_popescu: you sent teh .1337 ?
mod6: i think that's mostly my testing + taxation
mircea_popescu: https://blockchain.info/address/1FundZy7m7b8begbh9haCguKJcAdFopRJ9 << gotta say, nice of all teh peeps sending donations
decimation: imma compiling aws now too
decimation: look under the 'security groups' column in your instance
decimation: mod6: you gotta turn off the firewall in aws/ec2
Luke-Jr: anyhow, wife demands me in bed, so ttyl
trinque: Luke-Jr: yep, gotta enable things in the security group
brendafdez fucked it, I thought it was Luke-Jr saying that shit.