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a111: Logged on 2016-06-30 16:00 asciilifeform: rms is tragicomic precisely ~because~ he won't let go of fundamentally usgistic thinking

a111: Logged on 2018-01-09 23:26 asciilifeform: dunno that rms actually ~did~ anything in past 20+ yr. the man is a living flag.

asciilifeform: rms held on to microphone long past his sell-by date by playing a sort of zhirinovsky against background of microshit empire. but iirc we had already this thrd.

asciilifeform: iirc mircea_popescu had a piece where 'empty people make noises to fill the void in their skulls' or how did it go

asciilifeform: it aint tryin' to make sense, particularly.

asciilifeform: most of the material, i suspect, postdates the transition to mushroobm

asciilifeform: he has a number of pieces like this, and they contradict not only sense but ea. other

mircea_popescu: my personal "this is a moron" realisaiton occured upon reading some nonsense about how "more fair" division of proceeds from creative fields was to pool all the results and issue them back out by some log function, ie guy with 1mn fans gets 6 units, guy with 10 fans gets 1 unit, something like this.

asciilifeform: prattled for 30 yrs re 'four freedoms', but forgot '-1st' -- 'to fit the thing in head'

asciilifeform: point was re rms. trouble with the man is, i dun think he is stupid, in the usual sense, he appears to quite deliberately think that cultivated fungus on ~coad~ is a valid defense against 'microshit will steal'. hence gcc, autoconf, other marvels.

mircea_popescu: great times.

mircea_popescu: it'll be so fucking splendid to link a bitcoin without glibc jaysus

a111: Logged on 2015-04-02 01:16 mircea_popescu: "/home/stas/bitcoin-v0_5_3_1/ourlibs/include/boost/asio/detail/impl/socket_ops.ipp:2900: warning: Using 'getaddrinfo' in statically linked applications requires at runtime the shared libraries from the glibc version used for linking"

asciilifeform: then wrote to rms; who gave 0 answr

asciilifeform: but localized the boojum to 'libnss' (which turned out to be component of glibc, and not removable)

asciilifeform: this was back when asciilifeform had nfi why trb wouldn't statically link, not yet found drepper's 'gifts'

mircea_popescu: which was this ?

asciilifeform: i cant speak for other folx, but asciilifeform's 'third eye' re rms opened on the day that he spat on that letter re glibc

asciilifeform: happened on live public camera, afaik not the least bit disputed.

asciilifeform: it was the man's shining moment!11

mircea_popescu: i wanted to put it on trilema, dun recall if i ever did or not, but anyway, quite the item

mircea_popescu: you recall that thing ?

asciilifeform: for men, 'withdraw into biology' means , in practice, to feed the toe fungus.

asciilifeform: ( spoiler : didn't help him much moar than schrodinger's letter to hitler, had helped schrodinger )

mircea_popescu: teh withdrawal into biology historically works way the fuck better for women than for men.

asciilifeform: yarvin wins a kind of triple crown of rot -- not only perpetrated the urbit thing, but to get the necessary 'letter from hitler', did a kind of soft-recantation of his earlier 'rezistenta prin cultura' blogisms

mircea_popescu: i don't understand how these misfortunate kids are supposed to respect the human failures using them for props.

asciilifeform: ftr i have nfi re his marriage, iirc it wasn't to heiress or princess or etc.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they punch the juicer button or w/e it is cuckdads do.

asciilifeform: not speaking of work in herr newton's sense. or in 19th sense of 'useful commercial activity'. but in re 'show up to office & punch clock' one.

mircea_popescu: if you look about, ~all these loud and "successful" narcissistic dorks end up in the ~same arrangement, rescued by marriage of convenience.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform none of them "has" to work, dood, wtf, they live in america, the gutter of all laze. that dorky moron who was "going to take over holywood", aka http://trilema.com/2014/i-hope-they-serve-beer-in-hell/ ended up shipwrecked in the arms of some jewish princess, raising her kids.

asciilifeform: 'bahaha, idjits, i dun have to work'

mircea_popescu: somehow these morons went from 1980s alec baldwin's "go home and play with your kids" alt-fuck you you're a total waste of space to curtis yarvin's 2020s "i'll go home and play with my kids", direct restatement of "fuck you guise, i'm going home"

asciilifeform: it is difficult to dispell even the most outrageous lulhypothesis re koch-gpg. sorta what makes it 'speshul', what, 40MB of ???.

mircea_popescu: i can play with some kids for the cost of a car ride to the park, what's that do ?

mircea_popescu: anyway, am i the only one grated by just how much of a cop-out this "kids" thing became ? "oh, im going to play with my kids, which is to say you're OBLIGATED to believe my life has some sort of meaning".

mircea_popescu: this is why, tho.

asciilifeform: ( not even to mention the fact that -- rare, for a kochism -- the problem dun even exist in stock gpg, which defaulted to 2 subkeys, 1 for sigs and 1 for encipherments )

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: doubt that it has anyffin to do with the reluctance to use it ~at all~ displayed by some pubkey-as-arsenicum-amulet folx

asciilifeform: good % of pgp use historically -- resembled the medieval 'plague amulets'. y'know, the one where scrap of leather with word 'arsenicum' (cuz buying actual arsenic costs tuppence, and scrap -- one )

mircea_popescu: (the view that gpg aka koch-rsa leaks bits via signature isn't entirely dispelled even today)

asciilifeform: come to think of it, wtf did he even bother with pgp pub.

asciilifeform: i.e. as authentic as the Shards of the Troo Cross lol

mircea_popescu: anyway, item quoted/discussed is authentic, precisely equally authentic to any pre 0.3 bitcoin version.

asciilifeform: ( come to think of it , i dun think i ever even saw a pgp sig of his coad turds.. )

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: to the extent anons can even speak... i dun recall shitoshit ~signing~ anyffing post-'09

mircea_popescu: anyway, satoshi did weigh in on the first "fork". back in 2015. http://trilema.com/2015/the-news-in-brief-hearn-is-a-shitstain-mp-is-right-fuck-reddit-love-satoshi/ has the details.

mircea_popescu: anyway. on a long enough time horizon all socialism aka militant stupidity converges. of course yarvin merges with ethertards, what's there to distinguish them besides historical accident (ie, the exact converse of timeline, the thing time washes out)

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform by now the moron's studious ignorance is pretty much his only salient feature. same as that other y schmuck.

asciilifeform: pons & fleischmann imho are models of respectability compared with yarvin. ( and wasted 9000x less time of thinking folx.. )

asciilifeform: typical dog who shat on the floor, has moar remorse than this fella.

asciilifeform: or take 'Permanence also includes security. Except for the on-chain PKI, in which case you're trusting Ethereum, you shouldn't yet trust Urbit's security at all. Sorry!'

asciilifeform: or how about 'Long-term permanence means you can put your ship on a USB stick in a box for 50 years, or 100, or 500, and when you turn it on in a modern interpreter it will upgrade itself and work fine.' << upgrade itself!

asciilifeform: 'Urbit does not use the lambda calculus, an environment or symbol table, or linking. Because it pushes name resolution out of the fundamental interpreter and up into the language, it can play many more namespace juggling tricks. And its build system has no trouble including multiple versions of the same library.' << didjaknow this were a feature?!

asciilifeform: i'ma leave the rest uncommented, there aint much to add i

asciilifeform: ox as well as it did for esr tho, his www already for year or 2 contains a begtron

asciilifeform: 'What will I do personally? I'll spend more time with my kids. I'll finish reading my 1911 Britannica – I am only on the B's. I have no other long-term plans. ... I am leaving not just the project but the field – no less than Satoshi, or Everett, or Rimbaud ... Will Satoshi weigh in on the next Bitcoin Cash fork? Did Rimbaud fly back from Ethiopia ...' << evidently d00d at least 'took the money and ran'. seems to have worked appr

asciilifeform: 'No one else ever built a purely functional operating system' incidentally also false, the haskell people tried ('house') , with the expected result ( i won't detail, literate reader can guess )

asciilifeform: i take a kind of perverse entomological interest in sad rsatrons. ( e.g.: bolix, interestingly, had a -- nonconstant time, of course -- bignum stack, but at least it was reasonably compact.. )

asciilifeform: btw didja know, mircea_popescu , that yarvin has an rsatron in there ? possibly will be remembered as the only rsatron gnarlier/buggier than kochs's, or even microshit's

asciilifeform: 'A bunch went to contest winners who solved a trivial Nock problem in 2010.' << didjaknow, trivial

asciilifeform: ( recall the 'i explicitly dun want it to resemble bitcoin!' item, which then seamlessly morphed into 'we have merged with ethertardium' with somehow straight face )

a111: Logged on 2019-01-15 22:27 mircea_popescu: how ~the fuck~ is "nock" gonna identify-and-replace-with-jets when ginko417 is manifestly incapable of the very same task ? (or rather, for they psychologically inclined : WHY is it ginko417 imagines dealing with a jet is "nock"'s job ?)

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-15#1887352 << thing was broken on moar or less erry possible level, not only in the arithmetical model ☝︎

asciilifeform: ( and no it aint in 'ent' or 'diehard' or in afaik any pc rng tester, it moar or less demands fpga )

a111: Logged on 2019-01-15 22:09 mircea_popescu: but tbh, the "stochastic convergence test" seems to me worth A LOT more than any bs "ent" ultimately meaningless "squares of pi" bs.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-15#1887345 << this is how i dug it up, actually ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-15#1887347 << not only this, but to date no rng has actually sufficed (i.e. sufficiently independent bits) to make the thing go in reasonable time ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-01-15 22:07 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-15#1887308 << this is very elegant, earlier statement of the whole "optic crypto machine" thingee

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-15#1887343 << it's hauntingly elegant, and since finding out about it asciilifeform whenever going to sleep thinks 'hmm, how wouldja mod-exp with stochastic..' ☝︎

asciilifeform: ( 'paid' a weekend to solve that olympiad thing, was all )

mircea_popescu: for exquisite bonus lulz, "jet" is what a romanian speaking slut would say to a romanian speaking drunk moron in a romanian speaking bar, meaning "get the fuck lost".

mircea_popescu: how ~the fuck~ is "nock" gonna identify-and-replace-with-jets when ginko417 is manifestly incapable of the very same task ? (or rather, for they psychologically inclined : WHY is it ginko417 imagines dealing with a jet is "nock"'s job ?) ☟︎

mircea_popescu: stupid all the way down, what fucking turtles.

mircea_popescu re-read the comment section, from back in 2013, chuckled at random moron who perceived he can write himself the option to not engage mp saying things at him because (some variant of) "they do not display the right formalism" right smack drab in the middle of a discussion about some magical means for ~machines~ to recognize equivalent-formalisms through... magic.

a111: Logged on 2019-01-15 18:21 asciilifeform: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/iXGlE/?raw=true << d00d's entire lulzpiece, snapshotted for the l0gz.

mircea_popescu: but tbh, the "stochastic convergence test" seems to me worth A LOT more than any bs "ent" ultimately meaningless "squares of pi" bs. ☟︎☟︎

a111: Logged on 2019-01-15 17:36 asciilifeform: the output is n1 * n2 * ... n_n , cuz you represented'em as ~probabilities~

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-15#1887308 << this is very elegant, earlier statement of the whole "optic crypto machine" thingee ☝︎☟︎

asciilifeform: that being said, i'd quite like a rk-like box with expandable rams. but it aint happening on the current budget.

asciilifeform: ( and even if were spares -- whole thing is baked of bga ic, where even if you invest in reballing machine, you have good odds of thing never booting again if you move the bga )

asciilifeform: thing brings out certain # of addr lines to the pcb, and nomoar

a111: Logged on 2019-01-15 15:37 mircea_popescu: a) there's nothing wrong with specialisation (and especially if you figure out how to expand the ram -- which a stock of these gives you incentive to do, ie, specialisation drives competence) ;

asciilifeform: upstack, gotta revisit http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-15#1887223 >> there's no economic way to expand ram on an existing rk, it's similar to the proposition of adding cylinders to an existing bmw engine ☝︎

BingoBoingo: Datacenter cat is also in good health putting fear into the flying rodents

asciilifeform: ^ this is addressed to all uy1 people, i will not list'em explicitly, they know who they are ^

asciilifeform: ( invited to pgp ssh key + any particular reqs to BingoBoingo & asciilifeform ) ☟︎

BingoBoingo: In other news I am satisfied the vacant rk is very clean. Our airflow sensor has also been blown out, tested and rehung on the front door.

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: on contemplation, this is yet another place where rk utterly wins -- it is possible to include a very compact source of backup power, survive fairly long brown/black-outs

asciilifeform: ( unfortunately these are impractical to transport )

asciilifeform: fwiw i did notice, when peeked into other racks, that some folx had independent ups .

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'ma dig re price & where to get.

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i am thinking we oughta install a simple mains voltage logger (i've witnessed in the past, brownouts which took out 1 box ( where current load at the moment happened to exceed what's in the ps caps ) while leaving dozen others untouched.. )

asciilifeform: meanwhile, on uy1 , highest cpu temp recorded was 50c (10 hrs ago)

asciilifeform: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/iXGlE/?raw=true << d00d's entire lulzpiece, snapshotted for the l0gz. ☟︎

a111: Logged on 2019-01-15 00:30 asciilifeform: meanwhile, in darkest lulzafrica, 'Today we’re happy to announce that Urbit’s address space, now called Azimuth, is live on the Ethereum blockchain... We want Urbit to be a reliable, durable, permanent computer that’s simple to use. Today Urbit is still a prototype, not a consumer product. But we’re making great progress'

asciilifeform: meanwhile, in a quite hilarious conclusion to the http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-15#1887012 saga : http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1390&cpage=1#comment-19775 << yarvin throws in the towel. ☝︎

asciilifeform: ( in case it aint obvious , you gotta scale the #s, otherwise a even a 128bit multiplitron will take 'geological' time to output 1x1 )

asciilifeform: it's an interesting 'upside-down world', where, e.g., addition costs ~moar~ than multiplication ( i will leave as exercise, how it is done )