log☇︎
511900+ entries in 0.328s
asciilifeform: jurov: own this one ^ ?
jurov: http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/M5A97_R20/ i dug out this
gribble: Hear My Train A Comin' - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <;' target='_blank'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hear_My_Train_A_Comin'>; Jimi Hendrix - Hear My Train A Comin' (Lyric Video) - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EX5phFmbrU8>; Jimi Hendrix: Hear My Train A Comin' | Director's Cut Video ... - PBS: <http://www.pbs.org/wnet/americanmasters/episodes/jimi-hendrix/film-jimi-hendrix-hear-my- (1 more message)
nubbins`: ;;google hear my train a-comin'
asciilifeform: so if you want to buy hardware, do it while you can.
asciilifeform: but we all know where the train is going
asciilifeform: and is the 'younger son'
asciilifeform: trinque: amd is not 'angelic', it is simply behind the usg schedule because, elementary, smaller market share
assbot: Withdrawals halted as stolen evolution coins make their way to BTC-e : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1DISeAt )
cazalla: danielpbarron: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2zrdxz/withdrawals_halted_as_stolen_evolution_coins_make/ << is this a qntra article? <<< as far as i could tell, it's just a screenshot from btc-e chat, nothing came from btc-e themselves on the website, twitter etc etc, btc-e's email server was down too so people couldn't confirm withdrawal, so nfi if that link is even factual
asciilifeform: this should tell you everything you need to know.
trinque: yeah, saw that feature on this lenovo
asciilifeform: trinque: for instance, that recent intel server boards all include -prominently advertised- hardware rootkits
asciilifeform: trinque: there are other useful facts to know about intel
trinque: I am still curious why davout uses win 3.1 to do his encryption
trinque: heh sorry to constantly remind you of this fact with my questions.
asciilifeform: even chinese 'loongson' is built with american w4r4z fab tools.
asciilifeform: there is no 'clean' cpu vendor on the planet today.
trinque: yep knew they're american, hence curiosity
asciilifeform: trinque: amd is, recall, also american. but it does not have the history of outright warfare against its customers, or the surreptitious collaboration with microshit, that intel does.
trinque: asciilifeform: do you find AMD more trustworthy or is it a technical preference?
asciilifeform: (for human use, typically want video boards, for instance.)
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: cannot tolerate errors in memory for any reason, whatsoever.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: this was actually discussed in #b-a on several occasions
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: you buy a number of things and bolt them together...
ben_vulpes: i honestly don't even know how to build a workstation.
asciilifeform goes through this ritual every year or so
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i've been wanting to build a successor to my '07 machine for a few yrs now, and at this point not sure that it will happen at all
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: the parts aren't getting any more findable.
ben_vulpes: doubt that i'll have time, though.
ben_vulpes: i'd like to build out a workstation this year.
ben_vulpes: b) it is the product of the devil, with all sorts of odd shit going on under the hood
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: betcha 9 out of 10 times it is used because laptop.
nubbins`: trinque my understanding is that installing brew and macports is a recipe for disaster
ben_vulpes: well a) marginal in that if you can hack an os x box, you are able to hack a linux or bsd box, and why prefer the consumer os to something designed for use by professionals
trinque: nubbins`: I recall several instances of having done *dunno what* to fuck up my brew/macports/fink install
assbot: Logged on 26-10-2014 03:33:41; decimation: osx looks good from the outside, but when you walk into the engine room you find chairs glued to the ceiling and rotating clown cars
ben_vulpes: where's that bash
asciilifeform: i think the japanese call this situation 'uncanny valley'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it has weird and very annoying quirks. just like actual unixen but not exactly, is the best description
mircea_popescu: ie, macos too stupid to run software ? or, not enough people actually running it to bother with ? or what ?
ben_vulpes: but macos is marginal, and not at all a thing that i'm interested in hosting bitcoind on.
mircea_popescu: the reason you're not seeing "anything very objective" is because you don't know all sorts of things you don't know, and so they don't trigger for you. for instance : in a village where there's no bank, someone offering loans is one thing. in a town where banks exists and works, someone offering "loans" is called a loanshark.
ben_vulpes: mod6 will be too polite about this
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> [19:50] is anyone actually trying to build on apple's os ? << no
mircea_popescu: felipelalli it actually already works like that.
asciilifeform: but it is precisely the sata - and the Gb ethernet - which make the pogo what it is
asciilifeform: there are inexhaustible many similar machines -without sata- for around 2-3x the cost of 'pogo4'
nubbins`: the msrp on the things is like $99.
asciilifeform: and the cheapest entirely equivalent machine i was able to find on the market, anywhere on planet, is roughly 4x the cost
nubbins`: reasons that include dumping the hardware below cost? ;p
danielpbarron: they are selling the things at like 80% off because they think people will pay them 5 USD a month for cloud services
asciilifeform: i have reasons to suspect that the pogo-4 is not long for this world
asciilifeform: nubbins`: get a mega-crate while they're still around
nubbins`: 2 more pogos on the way here
danielpbarron: although still using gentoo on this laptop and debian on my irc server and ArchLinux on the pogo node
nubbins`: not that i'm going to be running a node on this machine
nubbins`: that's what i'm trying to do, yes
asciilifeform: because now that's just bizarre
asciilifeform: i meant was, is anyone planning to -run- on apple's os
danielpbarron: i think nubbins` has other plans
asciilifeform: is anyone actually trying to build on apple's os ?
asciilifeform: then no need for the weird apple minutiae, no ?
danielpbarron: ftr I do not intend to acutally use apple software; i've been putting OpenBSD on old iMacs
nubbins`: how is this useful
nubbins`: brew install ld64 pulls down the following file:
asciilifeform: but i dare say this is a waste of time
asciilifeform: nubbins`: you might actually have more luck cross-compiling on that box
nubbins`: but check this out:
nubbins`: then i go rename the originals and ln -s
nubbins`: so brew installs things in a specific location
nubbins`: in theory there'd be conflicts with the idiot gcc
asciilifeform: conflicts with the idiot ld on the box, or what
nubbins`: i know there is/was an "opendarwin" project
asciilifeform: if you're thinking of raw 'darwin'
asciilifeform: nubbins`: probably somewhere below that of 'plan 9'
asciilifeform: i used to have a passing interest, long ago. but for all i know you have to sacrifice a son to the crocodile god to get blessing from cupertino to distribute 'app' now.
nubbins`: at least they point you in the direction of what to do should you choose to ignore dad advice
gribble: The bot responds when you start a line with the ! character. A good starting point for exploring the bot is the !facts command. You can also visit the bot's website for a list of help topics and documentation: http://gribble.sourceforge.net/
asciilifeform: 'Apple does not support statically linked binaries on Mac OS X. A statically linked binary assumes binary compatibility at the kernel system call interface, and we do not make any guarantees on that front. Rather, we strive to ensure binary compatibility in each dynamically linked system library and framework.'
mod6: <+nubbins`> mod6 the rest of the issues seem to be differences between bsd/osx 'ld' and linux 'ld' << ah ok, yeah.
assbot: Odin's birthday celebrated by social media supporters - Toronto - CBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1xopTNX )
thestringpuller: and ran to fast and it now in 2012
thestringpuller: asciilifeform is actually the flash
asciilifeform walks in and #b-a is about... assets! wonders if he fell into a time warp
vorandrew: risking 1 cent in order to get 99 - not to shabby risk/reward ratio
vorandrew: you repay all year just to get max rating
vorandrew: so this BTCJAM (or any other one way market)
vorandrew: If I have opportunity to put aside with escrow 1 dollar and sell his debt for 89 cents
vorandrew: let's say I'm sure he is not going to repay
vorandrew: and somebody wants to buy his debt for 89 cents a dollar
vorandrew: means he wants to sell his debt for 93 cents a dollar
vorandrew: If somebody can bet money that I will not pay it back - it will be incentive
vorandrew: for example.. I wan to get loan... I want to get $95 and repay $100 in 2 months
vorandrew: thanks... the problem with p2p lending - it one sided market
thestringpuller: it's just scam on top of scam
thestringpuller: another scam is the repayment rate
thestringpuller: felipelalli: the scam is that reputation is built nominally on btcjam vs. WoT
felipelalli: I mean, rabbit out of this hat or not? This type of service is lost case?
felipelalli: mircea_popescu: a P2P lending system totally based on OTC WoT system would you consider a fraud as well or it could be something good?