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nubbins`: "i'm non-black, after all, and i can afford
to come here. what more must i do?!"
nubbins`: "how dare
they not realize i deserve red carpets and back rubs"
pete_dushenski: there are plenty of people on
the planet
trying
to improve
their lot in life.
nubbins`: my recently identified pete's-blog-post-about-jamaica meta problem is
that you identify entitlement as a problem but fail
to realize
that you're acting more entitled
than
these guys are
pete_dushenski: well,
this'd be mp's recently identified economic meta problem
nubbins`: none of us are
trying hard enough
nubbins`: if you're gonna upbraid
them for not
trying hard enough, why leave out
the rest of
the world?
nubbins`: anyway
tl;dr
their approach works well enough for
them
assbot: Logged on 22-03-2015 14:04:46; nubbins`: "sourcing
their ingredients from within spitting distance,
thus keeping
the revenue in
the local economy" <<< you mean keeping
their /expenditures/ in
the local economy.
their revenue goes elsewhere, unless
they're
the ones buying all
the dimebags.
pete_dushenski: the point i'm making is
that quality is more valuable
than quantity
pete_dushenski: these are cities i'm
talking about. namely, ocho rios and kingston
nubbins`: all behaviour you observe follows from
this
nubbins`: pete_dushenski understand
that you're a wallet with an afro when you visit resorts
pete_dushenski: they all want
to
talk
to
the white kid with hair like
them. i was
the most popular
thing on
the street
nubbins`: sometimes
they harass a guy for an hour and get a payday
nubbins`: these guys immediately realize
that you're not some sucker who's gonna fork over a
tenner
nubbins`: pete_dushenski it's not effective --against you-- but it's *precisely effective* against
the average vacationer.
pete_dushenski: i don't see
that harassment, jostling, or whatever you want
to call it is effective
thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: well it's in art in
the sense of
the Oracle from
the Matrix. Once you realize
there is a lot of "waiting" for events
to occur,
then it's best
to spend
the meanwhile in enjoyment.
nubbins`: i'm saying it's worth
their
time
to
try
to get $$ out of
tourists, but it's not worth
their
time
to chase dead ends
pete_dushenski: ok, so now you're saying
that it's worth
their
time
to be of service
to me... make up your mind
nubbins`: consider how many of
them just fork over
the $$
to get rid of
the guy
nubbins`: why does it seem irrational
that
they'd harass
tourists for money?
nubbins`: if
they get
two dollars pestering you for an hour,
they're ahead.
pete_dushenski: jamaicans should have a museum dedicated
to
this art, i say.
thestringpuller: i'm an expert
time waster, and wasting
time is an art pete_dushenski
pete_dushenski: they seemed
to have an abundance of
time but little notion of how
to use it effectively (at least on me)
pete_dushenski: they'd walk up
to me and want
to show me
this and
that, start following me wherever i was going,
trying
to nudge me here and
there
pete_dushenski: in fact, my experience was
that people gave me
TOO MUCH
time
nubbins`: consider
that if your suggested approach worked, people would do it
pete_dushenski: or maybe it's more quality of
time, not quantity i'm looking for
nubbins`: i'd say 5% of
the
time, or less, "more effort" results in "reward"
nubbins`: how much of your own
time do you waste on maybes?
pete_dushenski: maybe
they put in a bit more effort, because sure, i have standards, and maybe
they get rewarded for it
nubbins`: dude, people
the world over want
to chill at
the bar and smoke some weed instead of making a buck.
nubbins`: when
there's 500 other
tourists who will just cough one up?
pete_dushenski: so
they want
to chill at
the bar and smoke some weed instead of making a buck ?
nubbins`: trying
to lick your asshole for a buck?
pete_dushenski: what fucking 'wasted
time' could jamaicans possibly have ?
nubbins`: what you see as entitlement is a desire
to not waste
time
pete_dushenski: you could argue
that
they both grate on different people in different ways, sure, but for me it's
the latter
that annoys
nubbins`: why only
two ends? it's a
triangle
pete_dushenski: on one end is disinterest, a la paris or w/e, on
the other end is entitlement
pete_dushenski: nubbins`, re: jamaica <<
there's a spectrum of behaviours within
the 'poor service' realm
pete_dushenski: mats seems
to be pushing his dual_ec point a bit. i'm... skeptical.
nubbins`: <+mats> well shit. i guess we're all back
to handcrafting our own crypto
then huh. <<< no,
that's not what we're saying
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mike_c: "RSA received $10 million in a deal
that set
the NSA formula as
the preferred, or default, method for number generation in
the BSafe software"
mats: well shit. i guess we're all back
to handcrafting our own crypto
then huh.
mike_c: what? i
thought it was common knowledge rsa sold
their soul.
nubbins`: and i'm saying
that whether NIST is complicit or incompetent doesn't matter
nubbins`: you're implying we can figure out
the situation
mats: and re: BSafe, i'm not convinced RSA could be sold on destroying
their reputation for packing peanuts.
mats: leaving us with no real basis for actually figuring out
the situation.
mats: this kind of innuendo with an utter lack of specifics divides reasonable people into
two camps (maximally-paranoid, NIST is evil
too, avoid all crypto standards vs. minimally-paranoid, no evidence for anything so we do nothing)
nubbins`: consider
that "NIST approved it without knowing
that it was backdoored" is probably
the least desirable of
the
two
nubbins`: i.e.
that all other NIST standards are cast under shadow
nubbins`: mats NIST was either complicit or oblivious. both share
the same implications.
nubbins`: just running down
the clock now
nubbins`: jurov i already phrased it
that way :D
jurov: what's
the difference wrt NSA?
mats: the claim i'm most concerned about is
that
the weakness was engineered by NSA, and
that, by having approved it, NIST was complicit,
thus casting doubt on all other NIST standards
mats: what i'm saying is
that, as
the evidence stands, i'm unable
to
take a firmer position on Dual_EC
than
the previously accepted consensus
that
the weakness being a backdoor is quite unlikely, and
that Dual_EC should be shunned only because of
the abundance of caution with regard
to any issues
that is endemic
to
the crypto field
nubbins`: not sure how else
to phrase it
nubbins`: "just check it. it only
takes a second."
nubbins`: i've asked him SEVEN FUCKING
TIMES
nubbins`: man, if my goddamn roommate leaves
the front door unlatched one more
time, he's gonna find his possessions in
the street
mats: that
this happened at
the same
time as
the push
towards DUAL_EC as default looks incidental, not malicious
mats: RSA upheld
their end by backdooring
the BSafe product
nubbins`: i'm at
the 49th parallel, and i wouldn't be able
to use one of
these
things outdoors in
the winter.
assbot: Logged on 15-07-2014 20:23:09; Rassah: In our
tests, it still had plenty of entropy at 0ºC, but it smoothly went down
to zero entropy around -20º. Maybe we should put warning stickers on
these
things saying "Caution - Chaotic System. Do not use in low entropy environments above
the Arctic or below
the Antarctic circle, unless exposed
to external sources of energy" :)
Adlai: much less stressful
to shrink
the image and uncross
Adlai: nubbins`: my eyes aren't
that far apart